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BAJA WILL 09-09-2008 11:31 AM

First 30 OL 2009 almost done
 
Was at Fountain Monday, first 30 OL is almost done I will post pic, soon.

WILL:evilb:

STUCK 09-09-2008 12:35 PM

Well that was a big tease.

BAJA WILL 09-09-2008 02:35 PM

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OK OK here it is, relocating stereo, moved the dual batteries, one on each side of bench seat, Carbon fiber interior, Looking good, twin 496 HO's.

WILL:evilb:

STUCK 09-09-2008 03:03 PM

That's a little better thanks. I'm ready to see more photos. I hope everything works out and Baja and Fountain stay around for a long time.

BrettM 09-09-2008 04:01 PM

I cannot wait to see them for myself next month!!!

I like everything but the SS bow rail.

Dock Holiday 09-09-2008 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by nebraskabaja (Post 2679982)
I like everything but the SS bow rail.


I second that.

MAJOR CHEAP looking.

How many dealers will be fighting on that one 30 outlaw?

Where are those 250 employees Reggie lied to Governer of North Carolina about?

Tristar Racing 09-09-2008 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by Dock Holiday (Post 2680015)
I second that.

MAJOR CHEAP looking.

How many dealers will be fighting on that one 30 outlaw?

Where are those 250 employees Reggie lied to Governer of North Carolina about?

I heard they are rounding up ore old trailers to support the added boats on the assembly line... :cool:

It still is odd seeing Bajas without the in-gel graphics...

bowtye8 09-09-2008 05:40 PM

I hope Reggie will sell some dash panels and other parts so if we want to upgrade our current rides.

jimmy mcfly 09-09-2008 07:26 PM

Reggie buys the same gauges as Baja did and stamps his own panels, they are nothing special, call Livorsi if you want a panel upgrade, save yourself the headache.

TEAMBAJA 09-09-2008 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by Dock Holiday (Post 2680015)
How many dealers will be fighting on that one 30 outlaw?

I was wondering where the first 26 Outlaws went. Almost like they disappeared! :eek:

Dock Holiday 09-09-2008 09:05 PM


Originally Posted by Tristar Racing (Post 2680069)
I heard they are rounding up ore old trailers to support the added boats on the assembly line... :cool:

That's funny right there now! I bet he got a hell of a deal on a bunch of junk trailers when he bought all the dune buggy steering wheels.


Originally Posted by Tristar Racing (Post 2680069)
It still is odd seeing Bajas without the in-gel graphics...

They are simply not smart enough to do it. FACT

If you go back just a short while you will find a lot of posts where I supported Reggie but this whole Baja / Brunswick / Fountain / North Carolina WELLFARE deal has really pissed me off.

He can build a good boat but the corners he is cutting already on the Baja line like the bow rail, gel graffics etc just make me very proud that I have a "BEFORE FOUNTAIN" Baja. I personally would stay far away from that new product.

never enuff 09-09-2008 09:55 PM

I wonder if all that new stainless will increase the price at all. If a 23 is priced at 83K I wonder what the 30 will be priced at----maybe 125K or 130K :party-smiley-004:------------------- ok maybe a tick more
Jay

Busta1n2 09-09-2008 10:12 PM

I dont get that new bow rail.....when I look at it compared to my bow rail I wonder wtf were they thinkin?

TEAMBAJA 09-09-2008 10:55 PM


Originally Posted by Dock Holiday (Post 2680407)
That's funny right there now! I bet he got a hell of a deal on a bunch of junk trailers when he bought all the dune buggy steering wheels.

I never get tired of making fun of those wheels! :drink:

Have you made a full recovery yet?

WOTW2E 09-10-2008 06:33 AM


Originally Posted by TEAMBAJA (Post 2680552)
Have you made a full recovery yet?

Still a little foggy here for sure!

Dock Holiday 09-10-2008 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by TEAMBAJA (Post 2680552)
Have you made a full recovery yet?

No full recovery yet.:rolleyes:

You guys are very hard on an old man I cannot handle that out to 4AM stuff very well but I had a GREAT time and thank you all for showing me the BIG town and the festival. You missed the cat fight that broke out at Denny's! Can you say JERRY! JERRY! JERRY!

Dock Holiday 09-10-2008 07:22 AM


Originally Posted by WOTW2E (Post 2680662)
Still a little foggy here for sure!

With what you ate and drank you deserve to feel a little pain buddy!:evilb:

Hey anyone seen a 36 Outlaw in a corn field lately?

Kustom Kolors 09-10-2008 02:15 PM

light weights:party-smiley-004:

Busta 09-10-2008 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by BAJA WILL (Post 2679859)
OK OK here it is, relocating stereo, moved the dual batteries, one on each side of bench seat, Carbon fiber interior, Looking good, twin 496 HO's.

WILL:evilb:

So I guess Dave (Custom Touch) is painting the new Baja's now. That looks like his work! :p

BDiggity 09-10-2008 03:16 PM

Bow rail looks the same as what baja used on 38 specials & what fountain uses on theirs.

Cafes have the best looking bow rails...oh wait they dont have one. :party-smiley-004:

As far as graphics, the best looking bajas were custom painted anyway. if the paint quality out of the factory is as good as fountains, i dont see the issue. my 97 baja had gel graphics which faded. heck if you look at the top of the line boats; cig, outerlimits, donzi, etc they all are painted. only the lower quality boats are using gel graphihcs.

JaayTeee 09-10-2008 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by BDiggity (Post 2681303)
As far as graphics, the best looking bajas were custom painted anyway. if the paint quality out of the factory is as good as fountains, i dont see the issue. my 97 baja had gel graphics which faded. heck if you look at the top of the line boats; cig, outerlimits, donzi, etc they all are painted. only the lower quality boats are using gel graphihcs.


Mine is paint..... yeah it looks great, but I have a few
rock chips ( from towing) that I never had on my previous
boats ( that were in-gel graphics)

XT-Innovator 09-10-2008 05:41 PM

Hey anyone seen a 36 Outlaw in a corn field lately?[/QUOTE]

No, but I have been living on a 36ol in Attica OH. the last couple days surrounded by corn fields. I will make sure to stuff some corn in the cabin before it is returned to its owner....:evilb:

TEAMBAJA 09-10-2008 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by Dock Holiday (Post 2680703)
Hey anyone seen a 36 Outlaw in a corn field lately?

I thought Id do something nice, so I went up early before anyone got there this morning to add some complimentary port holes in the cuddy of the 36. Eventually, our port hole inspector, WOTW2E shows up and quickly realizes I traced the OUTSIDE frame of the porthole, and after an @SS chewing, he sends me to the store for a case of cheap silicone. So now I just stand outside and watch them fix the big holes I cut as they call me names like General Shoe or Bayliner reject and throw empty cans at me!


:drink:

Donzi Andy 09-10-2008 09:29 PM

I talked to a dealer today and they told me the first 30 has already been water tested and ran 82 with ho engines.

fountainguy214 09-10-2008 09:34 PM

Baja by Fountain.......BOO!!!!!!!!!!!:angry-smiley-038: :Whatever: :hitfan:

BAJA WILL 09-11-2008 09:03 AM

Wow, mixed emotions here?

Lets see yes the 30 OL ran 82mph first run out. Rails well love them or hate them, everyone has an opinion (personally I don't like rails on a boat at all, or hatches for that matter! and yes we have ordered them like that). As for the first 26,23,30, and soon 278 and 277 are at Fountain they are keeping one of each model built until the dealer meeting, you know so Baja dealers can see them and inspect them.

Fountain is experimenting with the boats to improve them, OK all you all see is the rails!, what you are not seeing is the diff drive heights, drive ratios, Labbing of props, Moving the batteries just to gain .5 mph!! As for ingel graphics, yes it is sad to see them go, but look at the new Fountain Paint, looks great.

As for prices, well compare to what a Formula, Donzi, Sunsation, AT, cost, seem like a hell of a value!!

In conclusion I will be at Norfolk VA boat shgow this weekend if anyone wants to come by and say hello.

Sincerely

WILL:drink::ernaehrung004:

Dock Holiday 09-11-2008 09:36 AM

Will,

You are a true gentlemen and represent the brand well. Good luck this weekend and I look forward to coming up and meeting you one day.

I'm sorry that this thread got hijacked and off topic.

As for speeds I saw 80.3 on the GPS of one of our members 30OL with HO's back last year at LOTO. It was a Hawkeye boat that was proped RIGHT. It also had fuel and four people on board. Based on that I do not find Reggie's speed all that good considering they run one person, 1 gallon of fuel and with the current.

Take care

Dock

P.S.
How many Baja's could have been built and sold if Brunswick had not dumped the company?

How many dealers would have had extra $$$ in their pocket instead of promises?

How many could already have been produced if Reggie had kept production in Bucyrus?

How many could have been produced if he had been serious about hiring some of the key Baja folks to join him?

How many engines and drives would Mercury have built and delivered if Baja was still at the top of it's game?

BrettM 09-11-2008 10:04 AM

Thanks for the updates Will! It is a little tough getting good info out of the Fountain camp. I will be there Oct 5 th to see the operation for myself.

Dock, Darrals boat does run hard. I have set up (sold) a couple 30's like his and have seen similar results. The real test will be if the 30 feels comfortable at 80 plus with the Fountain set up.

I applaud Fountains R/D on the new Baja's set up. I think at times boats were sent out of the Ohio plant that could have used more thought! I guess I'll chalk it up to job security for me!

customtouch 09-11-2008 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by Busta (Post 2681241)
So I guess Dave (Custom Touch) is painting the new Baja's now. That looks like his work! :p

Hey now!................They only look like that if "I" own them!!!:D

Donzi Andy 09-11-2008 04:59 PM

I heard that the prices are about 8% more than last year and the options are about the same. Some of the packages may be a little differnet. The 30 outlaw with ho engines base price with no options I was told wil be about $178,000.

TWIN-SPINS 09-12-2008 01:50 AM

windscreen looks a little different to me???maybe taller and split in the middle????near top

TEAMBAJA 09-12-2008 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by TWIN-SPINS (Post 2683236)
windscreen looks a little different to me???maybe taller and split in the middle????near top

Hard to tell in that photo. Could that possibly be the handrail on the steps the guy is standing on? If you look below that, you see another faint line.

Busta1n2 09-12-2008 05:45 PM


Originally Posted by TWIN-SPINS (Post 2683236)
windscreen looks a little different to me???maybe taller and split in the middle????near top

windscreen is split in the middle for sure

TEAMBAJA 09-12-2008 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by Busta1n2 (Post 2684230)
windscreen is split in the middle for sure

Save the picture and zoom in. You'll probably change your mind.

Irishtornado 09-13-2008 03:36 AM


Originally Posted by bajadream (Post 2682803)
I heard that the prices are about 8% more than last year and the options are about the same. Some of the packages may be a little differnet. The 30 outlaw with ho engines base price with no options I was told wil be about $178,000.

OUCH!!! I priced out a 07 with HO's SST and every option you could get and it was only 154k with the trailer. That was out the door prices so in 2 yrs with a poor market they've went up 24,000 thats insane...You guys can bag on me but at those prices I don't see many selling...And considering they aren't any better prepped than what Hawkeye has been putting out for years...Not much R&D IMO they would've had alot better boat had it stayed with the former producers and employees and might've had something to sell considering there should be boats on the showroom floor already...FAJA better step up they're game or I'd say its curtains for FAJA. After seeing what Baja put out with Split Decisions Reggie and Fountain ain't got nothing on them...

Twin-Kyle 09-13-2008 07:51 AM

The windscreen looks to me like it does not have a split all the the way down the middle, only the top half is split. It is taller in front of the driver and passenger with an added curl upwards. Something like the 25 Outlaw windscreen, just more obvious.

hydr0_scrm2 09-13-2008 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by irishtornado (Post 2684536)
OUCH!!! I priced out a 07 with HO's SST and every option you could get and it was only 154k with the trailer. That was out the door prices so in 2 yrs with a poor market they've went up 24,000 thats insane...You guys can bag on me but at those prices I don't see many selling...And considering they aren't any better prepped than what Hawkeye has been putting out for years...Not much R&D IMO they would've had alot better boat had it stayed with the former producers and employees and might've had something to sell considering there should be boats on the showroom floor already...FAJA better step up they're game or I'd say its curtains for FAJA. After seeing what Baja put out with Split Decisions Reggie and Fountain ain't got nothing on them...


Well said irishtornado. When given the time and resources we could build as good a boat as anybody (See: Split Decision).

Unfortunately being the "affordable" performance boat does not allow you to add all the extra bells and whistles and performance test EVERY boat that comes down the line AND still price it affordably to sell. Especially when Brunswick's got Mr. Burns running us off a cliff.

Not to mention (I know some may be shocked lol) not everyone wants a customized boat with a raised "X" that will get an extra 4 miles an hour or whatever. Case in point: the last production boat that came down the line. I'm sure some of the other guys can shed light on that debacle (pain in the rear).

I wish them luck, but they probably will fight an uphill battle to sell these boats in this market if they are priced that high.

TEAMBAJA 09-13-2008 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by hydr0_scrm2 (Post 2684901)
Well said irishtornado. When given the time and resources we could build as good a boat as anybody (See: Split Decision).

Ive always believed that! It was all about the time and getting them out the door.

I did 3 Poker Runs this summer with Jason and Hawkeyes SPLIT DECISION. Ive never seen a boat draw that much attention, even at Lake of the Ozarks where all the big players were out. I heard it was even crazier at Cumberland a weekend or 2 ago!

sonic69 09-14-2008 05:42 AM

Everyone at Cumberland was going nuts over Split Decision. I took a bunch of pictures of it my self. also Teambaja check your ebay questions.

Irishtornado 09-15-2008 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by TEAMBAJA (Post 2685002)
Ive always believed that! It was all about the time and getting them out the door.

I did 3 Poker Runs this summer with Jason and Hawkeyes SPLIT DECISION. Ive never seen a boat draw that much attention, even at Lake of the Ozarks where all the big players were out. I heard it was even crazier at Cumberland a weekend or 2 ago!

It was crazy at Cumberland. I pretty much hungout with Jeff Becker and Jason all weekend and the crowds where crazy around that boat. Was awesome to be able to get on it and personally check it out. The pics don't do the detail on it justice and for a 40OL that boat hauls the mail. I'd post some pics, but I don't have the ability on here. Great job on the boat former Baja employees. Whoever gets the last of the custom boats definately will have a piece of history.


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