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, so I would have to redo the transom for a bravo set up. hey I still have AIRTIME all wrapped up and will always keep it and phuck with it. maybe make it into a straight class 6 race boat. Iwas thinking of glassing the deck and hull like the SABER is and make the extra bulkheads and two or three seater make room in the bilge for a blower set up cause I had it designed. and keeping the old drive and move up the X instead of a shortie it will land flater like it did with the shortie. a friends got coverage for his 79 superboat 24 so maybe theres hope. what sucks is replacement of the ace drive set up and motor is north of 70,000 new, I just hope I got the X right and speed is north of 110 with small pulley and at 100 with the big. this hull is stable over a 100 but with twins bravos and 4s or 5s on them hope irs the same well thanks jason always liked the 29s.
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Hey guys, I had my boat with American Modern Insurance. DO NOT GET THEM. I forget who the broker was, but it wasn't Stacy I don't think.
I did have agreed upon value, but check the policy and make sure that they do not hammer you for "prior damage or non-maintained boat". Also get a notorized survey of the boat and insist that the company come out and give you their approval of the boat before they insure it.
I only had my boat for about 6 months, with a survey from a year prior. After the accident their "expert" claimed that the smack on the bottom and stringer issue was due to prior damage or non maintenance and denied my claim. We are still taking them to arbitration because our arguement is that they should have either inspected it or required a new survey BEFORE they took me on as an insured and once they did, they were responsible for any damage that occured.
Anyway just get all your paperwork lined up beforehand. My lawyer said that Allstate is probably the best insurance company to deal with in terms of getting payout if you are insured with them. If you are fighting Allstate, he said they are the worst.
-mike
I did have agreed upon value, but check the policy and make sure that they do not hammer you for "prior damage or non-maintained boat". Also get a notorized survey of the boat and insist that the company come out and give you their approval of the boat before they insure it.
I only had my boat for about 6 months, with a survey from a year prior. After the accident their "expert" claimed that the smack on the bottom and stringer issue was due to prior damage or non maintenance and denied my claim. We are still taking them to arbitration because our arguement is that they should have either inspected it or required a new survey BEFORE they took me on as an insured and once they did, they were responsible for any damage that occured.
Anyway just get all your paperwork lined up beforehand. My lawyer said that Allstate is probably the best insurance company to deal with in terms of getting payout if you are insured with them. If you are fighting Allstate, he said they are the worst.
-mike
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Hey guys, I had my boat with American Modern Insurance. DO NOT GET THEM. I forget who the broker was, but it wasn't Stacy I don't think.
I was actuallyl referring to American Modern.
I had Stacy give me a quote on my 33 last year, and the underwriter she chose was American Modern.
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Hey guys, I had my boat with American Modern Insurance. DO NOT GET THEM. I forget who the broker was, but it wasn't Stacy I don't think.
I did have agreed upon value, but check the policy and make sure that they do not hammer you for "prior damage or non-maintained boat". Also get a notorized survey of the boat and insist that the company come out and give you their approval of the boat before they insure it.
I only had my boat for about 6 months, with a survey from a year prior. After the accident their "expert" claimed that the smack on the bottom and stringer issue was due to prior damage or non maintenance and denied my claim. We are still taking them to arbitration because our arguement is that they should have either inspected it or required a new survey BEFORE they took me on as an insured and once they did, they were responsible for any damage that occured.
Anyway just get all your paperwork lined up beforehand. My lawyer said that Allstate is probably the best insurance company to deal with in terms of getting payout if you are insured with them. If you are fighting Allstate, he said they are the worst.
-mike
I did have agreed upon value, but check the policy and make sure that they do not hammer you for "prior damage or non-maintained boat". Also get a notorized survey of the boat and insist that the company come out and give you their approval of the boat before they insure it.
I only had my boat for about 6 months, with a survey from a year prior. After the accident their "expert" claimed that the smack on the bottom and stringer issue was due to prior damage or non maintenance and denied my claim. We are still taking them to arbitration because our arguement is that they should have either inspected it or required a new survey BEFORE they took me on as an insured and once they did, they were responsible for any damage that occured.
Anyway just get all your paperwork lined up beforehand. My lawyer said that Allstate is probably the best insurance company to deal with in terms of getting payout if you are insured with them. If you are fighting Allstate, he said they are the worst.
-mike
I sure hope that the agent/broker you chose to work with is going to bat for you on the claim
Pwam1 - I promise I am not trying to be rude by saying this... but I would suggest that before you "drag someone through the mud" by making a comment like you initially did that you double check and ensure that you are posting accurate info, especially when it is someone's business and reputation you are posting about.
While one person's claim experience with a company wasn't good, doesn't mean that the next person's won't be. I can provide you with many clients who have been extremely pleased with their claim handling with American Modern. Each claim situation is different, just my opinion....
Anyways, All i am saying is that someone may have seen your first post and then never saw Mike's follow up post stating that it was NOT WAKE ZONE... now, someone has an inaccurate/incorrect perseption of my agency because of the comment that you posted...
I'm sure you can appreciate my position on this...- Thank you.[/QUOTE]
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While one person's claim experience with a company wasn't good, doesn't mean that the next person's won't be. I can provide you with many clients who have been extremely pleased with their claim handling with American Modern. Each claim situation is different, just my opinion....
Anyways, All i am saying is that someone may have seen your first post and then never saw Mike's follow up post stating that it was NOT WAKE ZONE... now, someone has an inaccurate/incorrect perseption of my agency because of the comment that you posted... I'm sure you can appreciate my position on this...- Thank you.
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Okay, since you want to get personal, here goes.
I have communicated with you twice about boat insurance. The first time, I couldn't get YOU to return my emails. Finally got you by phone. After claiming you could beat everyone's price, you couldn't come close to the deal I had with Erie.
The second time, you quoted me, you were actually close to Erie in price, but with a lay-up. When you finally disclosed that the underwriter was Modern, I questioned you about Paison's problem with them.
You're response was that everybody has problems from time to time, and you were sure that it wasn't a problem with Modern, because you had never had any problems. I did not receive an indication of why Paison was having a problem with them, which is really what I was looking for.
IMO, if you are basing YOUR reputation on Modern's history, YOU have a problem. And, if you don't want to be questioned about it, don't come on these forums claiming to be god's gift to boat insurance.
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Pwam1 - I promise I am not trying to be rude by saying this... but I would suggest that before you "drag someone through the mud" by making a comment like you initially did that you double check and ensure that you are posting accurate info, especially when it is someone's business and reputation you are posting about.
While one person's claim experience with a company wasn't good, doesn't mean that the next person's won't be. I can provide you with many clients who have been extremely pleased with their claim handling with American Modern. Each claim situation is different, just my opinion....
Anyways, All i am saying is that someone may have seen your first post and then never saw Mike's follow up post stating that it was NOT WAKE ZONE... now, someone has an inaccurate/incorrect perseption of my agency because of the comment that you posted... I'm sure you can appreciate my position on this...- Thank you.
Okay, since you want to get personal, here goes.
I have communicated with you twice about boat insurance. The first time, I couldn't get YOU to return my emails. Finally got you by phone. After claiming you could beat everyone's price, you couldn't come close to the deal I had with Erie.
The second time, you quoted me, you were actually close to Erie in price, but with a lay-up. When you finally disclosed that the underwriter was Modern, I questioned you about Paison's problem with them.
You're response was that everybody has problems from time to time, and you were sure that it wasn't a problem with Modern, because you had never had any problems. I did not receive an indication of why Paison was having a problem with them, which is really what I was looking for.
IMO, if you are basing YOUR reputation on Modern's history, YOU have a problem. And, if you don't want to be questioned about it, don't come on these forums claiming to be god's gift to boat insurance.



