26 Outlaw with 525
 

I am leaning towards getting a 26 outlaw but I am hoping to get a little more speed out of it than low 60's. I see most of the guys running a 496 HO are topping out at an honest 63-64. Is anyone running a 525 in the 26? If so what speeds are yall seeing? Thanks in advance!

id have to say a 525 would put you in the high 60's. however the 26 has a strange riser set up that im not 100% sure the cmi's on a 525 would fit on a 26 ol. might, but you may need to dig into that and be sure no cutting is required

525 was a factory option not sure of the speeds, I would guess that with just engine and nothing else you should see low 70's.

My .02, you can get a LOT of boat for what a 26 OL w/525 will cost. I'd shop around a bit. Many boats that size or bigger can run upper 70's, even into the 80's w/525.

Thanks for the input. I will keep shopping around.

I agree with Baja_man. The boat runs 64-66 with a 496HO as the normal number depending on non labbes or labbed props ect, so the math would suggest 71-73 with a 525EFI.

It also came with a 600SCI. I wonder how many of those Baja build.

Buy one and cram an Ilmor 725 in there:D :coolcowboy:

Before I did the Raylar I had thought about a Ilmor 625.

Just curious. What speed and power do you see with the Raylar parts? 103 kit?

A 26ol with a v10 screamin' at 6300-6500 rpm's would be something not seen everyday. Should be run dry to the tips of course:evilb:

Still working thru some small issues so speed not accurate at this point. It seems I am only getting a 2/3 throttle (4300-4500 RPM's) but seeing 71-72 GPS.

BCK-106 kit, dyno'd at 660 HP @5400 RPM's

Timing or fuel delivery issue?

On the 525 topic... I've been told insurance on a 25 or 26 with a 525 is 3x one with a 496 HO or 500 EFI. Guess once you officially go over 500 they stick it to ya.

Prop-shaft or flywheel HP? Where the mfg rates the power is or can be different from what the insurance company wants.
A 500efi is only 470 at the prop. All merc HP/SC engines are rated at the flywheel, not the prop.

I'd skip the 525 this looks fun: http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o40838-en.html

Jason has a good point here. Worth looking into.

First one I've ever seen. Want to guess a number? I'd say 78 mph max.

Powerboat tested a 26 with the 525 I think they got 74?

AO is almost dead on.
Mine (the one in the link) has the 600sci and runs upper 70's on gps anytime, even with 4 people and plenty of fuel I've seen 77-78 loaded, 78-79 and an occasional 80 solo.

I thought the 496ho 26 would do 66 or 67? maybe not.

Did you buy that one new? What are you moving into?

Had a buddy that had a 26 outlaw with a 525 in it and it only saw 67-69 gps with a labbed 26 bravo needles to say it is not worth the extra money for the 525. It also had the IRS drive on it.

What is an IRS drive? Do you meat the Merc racing ITS transom assy?

Something has been wrong with that setup to run that number. A 26OL with a 496HO and labbed 23" M+ should run 65-66, non labbed 63-64, both as everyday numbers. Did the boat come with the ITS? What rpm's did he spin at?

Socalstone
Did you ever try a M+ on your 26OL? I can see from your ad, you ran a 28" labbed B1, but in many cases it looks like the M+ is faster. Great looking rig by the way:coolcowboy:

I never tried a mirage plus, if I had kept playing with props that would have been my next choice. It probably would have done a little better than the B1, but the B1 was a good all around prop. I actually preferred the stock 28 over the labbed 28 that came with the boat. top speed was better with the labbed, but the stock one had great cruising and mid-range which was where I spent most of my time.

And yes, I agree, that 26 with the 525 must've had something wrong.
525 = at least low 70's any day any conditions.

Acutally sound about right, 26 is much heavier. The 425HO runs only about 63, with the 525 should be about 68-69. Assuming GPS, fresh water and about 600' above sea level. If you raise the x dim then add a couple more. There is a guy on here with a 26 tha just added about 100HP and raised the x dim 2" with a 12" setback. We will find out soon what it does.

Wow, what a boat. Hate to guess what the new price was on it!

Sorry yes it was a ITS drive and the boat came with it. And those were GPS numbers. I have a 23 outlaw with just a Mag and he would just barely walk past me. He sold a 25 outlaw to buy this boat with a HO in it and thought it would be so much faster.

they did a 502 with 500hp did 68 0n gps

Boattest.com did one that ran 66,2 @ 5120 rpms set up like this.

Test Power 1 x 425-hp MerCruiser 496 Mag HO (sterndrive)
Ratio 1.50:1
Props Mirage+ Lab Finish 23 pitch 3-blade stainless steel
Load 2 persons, fuel: 1/2, water: none, gear: minimal
Climate Temp: 83 deg., humid: 63%, wind: 15 knots, seas: 1-2' chop

I remember a 525 test in powerboat. was at least 72 on gps, but I'm pretty sure it was 74gps. 500hp should do 70 or better. what is wrong with these people? lol.

That 525 only running in the 60s must have had a few spark plug wires missing, or the driver didn't know where the trim button was!

Hopefully sooner than later! But then again I may be too embarrassed to report the results. :lolhit:

Hopfully it runs soon, your halfway through the summer !!!!

How far are you in your project?

Well, lets see....

We sent the engine out to Michigan the first week of Feb. and just got the engine back in our hands the 5th of July. But then I found out there was no ECM with it. The ECM was supposed to be overnighted from CA but it was shipped ground, a week later we received it. But then the CMI kit that was shipped did not have all the correct hardware, this was determined the 8th of Jul two weeks later with phone calls and emails CMI overnighted the parts that were missing and wrong last night. CMI was very honest and apologetic, just wish my engine builder was. Anyway... I have a boat, I have an engine, I have the extension box installed, I have the shortie still in the box, I have CMI parts on the way to the house as I type and a person standing by to help me install it. So this is where I am with the project.

Hopefully it will be in the boat by next weekend.


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I have 2001 25 OL that we bought new and later spent more than what the boat cost to upgrade to a blown 800 horse Express Racing 540. I haven't ran it hard in a long time, but it will run 8(GPS Speedo) any day and I believe when we ran more boost it did see the low 90's. I am tempted to let the bank have it back due to the economy. I will post if i let it go. We have been paying on it for 10 years and still owe high $40's. Just love Obama's change!

So you dumped a ton of money into the boat by buying it new and then putting a blower motor into it. You want us all to pay for it (one way or another we will) because it's not worth the cash you still owe on it. Just trying to wrap my brain around this one. :eek:

I guess you missed the point. If was trying to sell it It would be in the classifieds. The only reason $$ where brought up was to let you know that it wasn't some junkyard fake horsepower number. I was just trying to help someone relate horsepower numbers to speed which i believe is what was was asked. I really don't care what happens to it. I liked my baja, but can do without this mess.. I bought it new because I thought I was going to quit racing. I put the motor in it because I din't like the 496 that came in it. I don't really care what it is worth or anything else at this point.

i got it:drink: it take over 800ponys to make that boat go 80+ now a 496 with 425hp you are lucky you do 65mph i think it is funny when guy say they do 70 to 74 mph and they change there prop to a bigger one:eek:

Scott Halstead, Scalded Dawg on here, runs an 780+hp in his 25 Outlaw & it is a mid-80's boat right now I believe & it isn't dialed in yet!

Nope it's not I'm sending him props this weekend to help dial it in. I still can't figure out why nobody thinks a 25OL with a 496HO won't go 70+ on GPS? I've posted pics and video. Offered a ride. Guess just cause they all won't go 70 stock out of the box? I got video of Dawg running low 80's right beside me as well. Of course I've heard theres a 302 with HO's in it running 80+ too.

I just picked up a 92 24 Outlaw with a 502 carbed, boat has not been in water in 6 yrs, without adjusting the carb, 4 ppl on boat and a broken trim gauge we got 66 out of it. Im more then positive a newer 25 outlaw with stock efi 496 will do 70 plus.

Two things.

Was that a GPS number. If so. What prop with what ratio in the drive @ what rpm are you running 66?

The best I've ever seen in a 25 is 67-68ish with a 496HO.

It is with boats as with props, engines ect. There is no doubt that every once in a while, there is one out of the mold that just works a bit better. Somtimes, these things just comes together, Really good prop, a good engine, the right hull, well, 70 might be possible. But something like 72 on a regular basis with a 425 hp motor? No way, I don't by it. And I don't consider a run with driver only, running on fumes no gear on a cold morning, with the wind in the back, down stream, sun in your azz, the stars alligned right ect. to be any good. It's a fun, but useless number. As soon as you put 2-3 ppl in the boat 3/4 tank of fuel, gear, food and drink ect, that number will change, and that is the everyday number.

Just sayin'

Yes it was on GPS, it was with 4 ppl. light load of fuel, i think its a 21 pitch 3 blade, bone stock 502 with a stock bravo 1, turning close to 5800 rpm.

All im saying is that a 25 outlaw with stock 496 will run 70, if this dynosaur 92 runs 66, with trim gauge not working.

What do you mean by stock 502? Turning 5800??! - does not sound stock at all. A standard '92 Merc MAG 502 405 hp is build to turn 4800-5000. Not saying it can't turn 5800 with a much too small prop, but it has no power at 5800. It sounds odd.

Also the 24 is faster than the 25.

Always a couple non believers it's all in time setting the boat up. Baja is conservative setup out of the box.