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nailit 12-02-2012 06:31 PM


Originally Posted by Bad-Influence (Post 3825074)
The OP has an Expedition not an Excursion. The Excursion can handle a 33 or bigger.

I think you can carefully make it by with the Expedition with either boat you are thinking about... Depending on trailer/situated on trailer and also tongue weight. Just be safe and leave extra room for braking!

Just checked and was surprised.. guess b/c of the weight of the vehicle itself.
Gas excursion gvwr 8600
Diesel 9200.

nailit 12-02-2012 06:38 PM


Originally Posted by Jason3603 (Post 3825123)
Since I pull my 43 BT with my 2500 Silverado and it also being overweight the 3 different insurance people I spoke to here in Michigan pretty much laughed at me when asked them about add on coverage for this since it's over weight. They all pretty much stated if I were in an accident and it was deemed my fault and some was seriously injured I would be in a world of hurt anyway.

Back to the OP; see if the seller will allow you to hook up to the 33 and tow it down the highway this way you can make the decision for yourself. Before you do make certain the brakes on trailer and tow vehicle are very good working order. Just my 2 cents

Would be a 800 mile trip to either for test lap..

So looks like concern is safety in respect to weight while in tow and no issues being maneuverable??
Otherwise, go for the 33???

dsmawd350 12-02-2012 08:20 PM


Originally Posted by Jason3603 (Post 3825123)

Back to the OP; see if the seller will allow you to hook up to the 33 and tow it down the highway this way you can make the decision for yourself. Before you do make certain the brakes on trailer and tow vehicle are very good working order. Just my 2 cents

yeah thats exactly what i would do as a seller. let someone with the wrong vehicle come tow my boat down the highway for the hell of it to test whether or not its safe LOL who knows maybe on the test drive theyll figure out its not safe, seems like a good idea to me :lolhit:

wwolfe 12-02-2012 08:45 PM

I sold my 01 272 in September and just put a deposit on a 03 302 few weeks ago. I love the room in the cockpit of the 302 and happy with the cabin space as well. Boat has the ext swim platform which is really nice. I personally am not a outlaw fan and the 302 met all my requirements. I think besides the 33 outlaw, the 302 has the most cockpit space in these size boats.

There was a nice 03 302 boss package with 496 mags in pa for sale at big bee boat. Looked at it in October and had around 110 hrs and price was around $48k with trailer. I wanted HO's or 500's so I passed on it.

I tow with my 97 c3500 dually and my new boat has electric brakes on trailer. 302 with eagle triple axle trailer has to be around 10,000-10,500 lbs

nailit 12-02-2012 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by wwolfe (Post 3825252)
I sold my 01 272 in September and just put a deposit on a 03 302 few weeks ago. I love the room in the cockpit of the 302 and happy with the cabin space as well. Boat has the ext swim platform which is really nice. I personally am not a outlaw fan and the 302 met all my requirements. I think besides the 33 outlaw, the 302 has the most cockpit space in these size boats.

There was a nice 03 302 boss package with 496 mags in pa for sale at big bee boat. Looked at it in October and had around 110 hrs and price was around $48k with trailer. I wanted HO's or 500's so I passed on it.

I tow with my 97 c3500 dually and my new boat has electric brakes on trailer. 302 with eagle triple axle trailer has to be around 10,000-10,500 lbs


Congrats on the boat!! I am an outlaw fan (so is boss) which make this hard to decide. Like the 29 and easier to find deals. Like the cockpit space and cuddy of 302 and 33. Would like a 302 but with windscreen only. Will probably end up with what ever deal I find.. but purpose of this tread was to perhaps sway me on holding out for a 33 which pushes limit of my storage (side of house) and slightly exceeds my tow vehicle. But at some point, I do WANT a 33!

offshorexcursion 12-02-2012 09:15 PM

I love my 33 and it makes me super proud to be a Baja owner. So happy with the boat that even though I can afford to upgrade boats I have no reason to. Nothing "feels" like a good overall bang for the buck compared to what I have.

Your expedition will tow a 33 fine. The DRIVER has more to do with SAFETY then the rig. MOST accidents happen due to human mistakes then equipment failures. You could use a Semi to Tow a 33 and if the driver is stupid they still can crash and kill someone! Yes EOH trailer brakes are a must. You will eventually need to upgrade Tow rigs.

If you are in an accident your grandma could be sued for co-signing on the vehicle for you (google it). Its sad but its impossible to protect yourself 100%. Anyone can get sued anyday for anything. I could bring a lawsuit against you for XXX tomorrow and you have 100% nothing to do with XXX and don't even know me but you STILL have to hire a lawyer and defend yourself! The person making the lawsuit might lose once you spend lots of time and money proving your innoccent, but you STILL had to deal with all the hassle and waste money.

Good luck on the sale of your 25 and enjoy the search of your new 33! Be patient and you will find a great deal that you fall in love with!

Jason3603 12-02-2012 09:16 PM


Originally Posted by nailit (Post 3825158)
Would be a 800 mile trip to either for test lap..

So looks like concern is safety in respect to weight while in tow and no issues being maneuverable??
Otherwise, go for the 33???

Stopping is what always concerns me the most when tow anything.

After doing a very quick web search on a 2011 Expedition its GVWR is 7441 and the weight of a 33 is roughly 7500 not including the trailer. You are only over weight by whatever the trailer is. With that said I wouldn't hesitate at all to use the expedition.

obnoxus 12-02-2012 09:24 PM


Originally Posted by offshorexcursion (Post 3825272)
Your expedition will tow a 33 fine.

Cmon man,,,,,,dont give advise like that.

It will be tickling 12,000 lbs on a trailer

In a straight line on flat ground with no one around,,,,probably.

The first panic stop, or emergency lane change and its all over

nailit 12-02-2012 09:29 PM

[QUOTE=offshorexcursion;3825272]I love my 33 and it makes me super proud to be a Baja owner. So happy with the boat that even though I can afford to upgrade boats I have no reason to. Nothing "feels" like a good overall bang for the buck compared to what I have.

Your expedition will tow a 33 fine. The DRIVER has more to do with SAFETY then the rig. MOST accidents happen due to human mistakes then equipment failures. You could use a Semi to Tow a 33 and if the driver is stupid they still can crash and kill someone! Yes EOH trailer brakes are a must. You will eventually need to upgrade Tow rigs.

If you are in an accident your grandma could be sued for co-signing on the vehicle for you (google it). Its sad but its impossible to protect yourself 100%. Anyone can get sued anyday for anything. I could bring a lawsuit against you for XXX tomorrow and you have 100% nothing to do with XXX and don't even know me but you STILL have to hire a lawyer and defend yourself! The person making the lawsuit might lose once you spend lots of time and money proving your innoccent, but you STILL had to deal with all the hassle and waste money.

Good luck on the sale of your 25 and enjoy the search of your new 33! Be patient and you will find a great deal that you fall in love with![/

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Thanks for your input!! Ditto for Jason!
If y'all want to tow Off.Exc's boat down here, it still nice! Today was low 70's!! Looks like I may be leaning toward a 33!!

obnoxus 12-02-2012 09:32 PM

One quick Google search,,,,,and you were part of the thread !!!!!!

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/b...w-vehicle.html


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