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Old 07-18-2002 | 08:39 PM
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DJG--- is there any hook in the bottom??? If no then it sounds like you need to add a little cup to the prop or add some rocker to the bottom.
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Old 07-19-2002 | 06:48 AM
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djg, thanks for the reply, seems your in the same situation. i am ordering the new bravo sport master lower unit for the boat and installing external steering, hopefull that will help. thats intresting you say have to trim the hell out of it to get bow lift, this boat i have here, has way to much bow lift. trim has to negative, other wise its loose..way loose. i might consider putting on some 380 trim tabs, something that will touch the water when going over 60. seems these bennett tabs are way to short, and do no good when the boat is running over 60 mph.
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Old 07-19-2002 | 07:58 AM
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Originally posted by Allan4
HeHeHe.........there is a 24 hour twisted circus occuring between my ears, all are welcome.........

Hey, I just blasted one of my buddies on the "Cincinnati Poker Run" thread in general discussion. go have a peek. If I had any idea how to post it here, I would. Daze, don't even waste you time trying to explain it to me........ I plant bushes for a living while I am not out beating on my mule.......
Allan, that was a beautiful tongue lashing...still not as good as your Shorgasm sighting!
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Old 07-19-2002 | 06:45 PM
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HAHAHAHAAAA, gracious' (that means thank you in spanish you dumb s**ts..... ), problem is I don't remember what I said to ole' shoregasm. We used to go back and forth non-stop!! Hilarious posts last year about this time or so.....HAHAHAHAHAAA.

As for handling, the tabs definetly have an impact at WOT but, 280 or 380 planes would be alot better. However, you can only do so much to correct the fact that this is a 24 foot 1980's hull design. I also run with lots of trim and tuck the drive when I am coming onto bad water. I do this rather than pull out of the throttle, unless I am looking at huge crusier or barge waves. I find mine runs better and gets on top of the water if I leave the drive trimmed hard and play with the tabs in general. Crusing is different........Hard to explain, because all the conditions are different every day. Seat time!!

DJG, you got the goodies, surprised you can't get it dialed in. Hope I can help, let me know. LAter.
 
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Old 07-19-2002 | 08:16 PM
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I have the second 24 (Sport) Outlaw ever shipped from Baja (so I'm told by Baja). It's a 1987 with about 400+ hp at the moment. 5 years ago I had some bottom issues so while they were fixing it I had Baja send me the cutout from one of their Bravo installs. Had the glass man glass it into the transom and re-cut the hole, 2 1/2" higher than stock. At the same time I had a 475 hp motor built and when I got it dialed in (I was running a 23" Power Tech prop then) I got 70+ once (before the motor imploded) and didn't have a bit of chine walk. None. And I do NOT have hydraulic steering. Currently the boat will run about 62 or so and has a bit of a porpious but nothing terribly bad. Running the same prop in a 21" (Power Tech). No chine walking. I have been driving this boat for 8+ seasons now and have only ever had it chine walk one time. Took a boat wake from the side while trying a WFO max speed run with a really light load.

I run big tabs (not K-planes, but they are 16" long) and stock steering, 1999 Bravo performance lower unit. And for those who are not familiar with the bottom of this boat it is a 24* pad bottom. Pad is 4-6" wide at the transom and tapers forward 5'. The outside lifting strake on each side has a small hook in it. Perhaps 1/2" drop over 6" or so. Baja informed me that if I took the hooks out I would cause more handling issues than I could ever want. Slow time to plane, chine walking, porpoising, etc...
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Old 07-21-2002 | 09:01 PM
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Dave, Try a Hydromotive Quad IV on your boat. I just helped out 2 friends this weekend with the same problems your having and the results were awesome! One boat was a 232 and the other a 22 Twilight. These props work very well! I run one also. Just something to try before you make the bigger investments. Scott
 
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Old 07-23-2002 | 08:24 PM
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One more thing comes to mind, if all else fails. Check the balance of the boat....batteries, etc. Also, if your motor is all out of allign, that is a massive chunk of rotating metal that can cause handling problems. Just think about it. Get it lined up correctly, not just so the outdrive goes in. Get a low tolerance allignment tool and line that thing up correctly. It had to have helped mine becasue it's lined up perfectly and I have very, very little chine problems with a Rev 4.
 
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