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Originally Posted by Billy Martin (Post 2350496)

I am Not involved with Trick Marine at all (meaning that I have never done buisness with them) but have been Reading the posts that have been Put up. I am not here to bash anyone and am sorry to all that are having troubled times with Trick. I am however in buisness and can give a little insight into credit card company's. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO PAY FOR WHAT GOODS OR SERVICES YOU NEVER RECIEVED!
A short story of an incident that happened to me as a dealer..... I am in the furniture buisness, at 15 min to closing we recieved a phone call from a customer saying they would like to purchase a dining room set and matching bedroom set they saw, however, they would not be able to make it back to the store by closing and asked if we would take the order over the phone. They described to the tee the location of the merchandise and even gave us our coded numbers from the price tag, so someone was defidently in the store. We took the order and set up a delivery date with them. MANUALLY entered the full amount, and delivered to them thier merchandise. When we got to the apartment, there was no-one home but a neighbor came out and let us in the apartment, he said the tenant had to run out to get supplies cause they were moving in. We delivered all the furniture and left the location. A month goes by and we recieved a call from the credit card company asking to see the credit card slip that we ran for the customer. When we asked why they said it was a stolen card and they wanted to see the signiture. When we told them it was a phone order, they said, "NO SIGNITURE = NO SALE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We were beat out of $10,000.00 We naturally went back to the apartment and lets say let ourselves in, Place was empty, and so was the Neighbors. We later found out it was a scam coming from inside the jail, where they had people going around from the outside describing furniture, and taking numbers and the person in the jail would call and order it with stolen credit card numbers. We were not the only ones it happened to, they hit about 8 furniture stores in the area.
Bottom line, according to the credit card company's and lawyers, NO SIGNITURE = NO SALE!!!! So Everyone that orders "on-line" can ask thier credit card Company if that person has a signiture to the slip and they are not held responsible for paying the bill. This also goes for catalouge and phone orders. Hope this info helps and good luck!

Jr.

This is not necessarily true. If you have a valid invoiced balance along with a credit card number and also with cv2, the credit card company will rule in favor of the merchant unless there is something that is obviously fraud.

This is why the millions and billions of internet revenue sites ask for the 3 digit code. It's a way of verifiying the user and it adds an entire separte level of security. If the card is stolen or misused in any way, the dispute will be based on the date and time stamp of the reported loss of the card.

i've had a few chargeback attempts and (knock on wood) have never actually had to return the money. The dates, amounts, addresses, etc have to jive in order for you to be safe. That's also why some sellers will not ship to an "alternate address". The fine print on credit and debit card agreements varies huge sometimes.

What's the world coming to when the dumbest SOB on OSO is the only one that was not scammed by Fred? Good work, Stecz. Now wipe the drool off of your chin and get back on the short bus.

I didnt know he sold rub RAILS too

Good for you Heath and for standing up. Business is hard enough to make it and I am sure that Fred started out on the right path but its no excuse for what he turned into. I am sure that alot of his problems was money and it was his own fault. I am a consumer not a seller and would rather still be bragging about the service then him becoming the whore of the market and screwing everyone. You should feel proud that you responded and not hiding. Even Fred would be better off standing up to what happen instead of hiding. But what do I know, to some and I am learning a select few, I don't have a large post count.

We lost lots of business to Trick Marine, he was always selling parts at our cost. This hurts everybody in the end. The name of his business says it all, TRICK marine!!!!! Not good.

Jacky

Heath all I can say is WOW and I can not tell you how glad I am that you had enough common sence to get out of that place!! You should be proud of yourself for doing what you knew was right and cutting your ties. Now do one more thing for me and CHANGE YOUR SIGNATURE!!! That is the last tie that you seem to have with him.

As for James.... I am not sure how I feel about him. He sure is in a bad place right now but from what we see with Heath the writing was on the walls. He was taking part in this whole scam and just went along with the Trick Party line. I really am not sure he is any better then the rest of them.

As for feeling bad about Fred not boating..... HE NEVER DID USE HIS BOATS!!!! He bought them, caused all kinds of mayhem for the buyers and sellers and then never used them. Look at the deal with the Sutphen and Parnel. From what I can gather Parnel is one of the more stand up guys on the board and Fred went after him guns a blazin.

Every day we go deeper into the worm hole.

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Originally Posted by Audiofn (Post 2350912)

WOW is right....the other side is exposed and the hole is bottomless. :eek:

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Originally Posted by Heath@TrickMarine (Post 2350723)

I didnt want to get in the middle of this but I left trick marine a year and a half ago for many reasons...that place was the most unprofessionally run business I have ever worked for in my life....his son (the one who wrapped moms car around the tree and died while all coked up) caused a living hell for me the entire time I worked there...he was snorting coke off his desk while taking orders on a daily basis and fred was completely ok with it...cynthia (freds wife) was wasted drunk every single day at work and the job was like a circus act....I moved down to south carolina from michigan to take a job that I thought would be right up my alley...but soon found out that this place was a joke....I was told to lie to customers about when the orders were shipped but wouldn't and later got chewed out over it time and time again....had suppliers calling and talking to me (just an employee) about how they weren't being paid for the product coming in and I was constantly being lied to about what was really going on...I finally decided that I'd had enough and moved back to michigan...this has been going on for a long time but out of respect for fred I didnt want to say anything

Wow. Thanks for the insight. So it seems that the problems run deep.

Living on "cash flow" eventually catches up to you!

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Originally Posted by Heath@TrickMarine (Post 2350723)

INCREDIBLE!,:eek: Heath thanks for shedding some light on this issue.
Dean