Gino do a search in the Bilge and you will see. There are a few threads. The very short of it is that he molested his neice who then to add to the tragedy was killed in a car accident 1 or 2 years ago :(

easy to try and connect those dots but if you look at all of the other issues of a huge payable issue absolutley destroyed reputation the only way I would see this happening would be through a bankrupcy and have not heard about that.

if they took it over they owe alot of product that has already been payed for but not shipped

why risk you buisness to try and pick up that mess

I am Sooo Glad. I don't know Fred and Trick . I purchased a few little things long ago. But. I understand a bit about business. I made poor decisions before, Got stuck and screwed by vendors, subs, lost thousands. All my years I found that an open and honest communication is the key. Not even price. I been in trouble before and through openness and honesty even vendors and other companies helped me out. They were willing to delay their billings or take partial payments for a while. And I helped others when they were in trouble and honest about it. I just got a call from a vendor that I owe him $600+-. (for 4 months) I thought I paid it, I forgot it. I admitted it, he understood and the issue is resolved with no hard feelings. (I know .. small amount) but the principle stand. HONESTY/INTEGRITY goes a long way.
Reading all this “Fred BS”, I have a message for Fred and to some one has communication with him.
FRED needs to come “clean”. Fred needs to say something to all his “friends” and be honest about his situation, no matter how hard or painful it is. His “disappearing act” hurts him a lot more then the $ issues.
Trust…. or lack of , is a lot harder to overcome and to forgive than a financial loss.
I can always forgive but never forget.
My company’s motto: “Quality Construction Services through integrity”. I f’’ed up before, and with open honesty with Subs, suupliers, Owners etc. the situation was always resolved. Fred has not learned that the truth can be his best friend. An awful lot of people are very helpful to some one else when the truth is offered, and help is requested.
Fred.. !!!. you need to stand up and be honest. !!! All your OSO friends deserve it, as well as all of your customers.
My $.02

If anyone wants to make t-shirts up I surrender all rights to this photo!

(Could make a good avatar for alot of people too!):D

Good one Teambaja! I personally liked the one on the other post of Fred on the bronco!

Can't say all this doesnt make me smile. :rolleyes:

Heath, please email me at [email protected]

I don't understand this Trick?Gaffrig connection other than Trick sold Gaffrig product. Gaffrig aquiring Trick wouldn't make business sense. Mike at Gaffrig would then be in direct competition with his own dealers/distributors.

I will call Mike Monday and see if I can get an answer. I'm pretty sure he knew about Fred not paying for CMI product when Fred made the switch in venders. I call last week, but Mike wasn't in.

This is bad for Gaffrig.

As I said before; If this is true all of you who are owed money should try to collect from Gaffrig. If Trick was sold to Gaffrig then who got paid, Fred? Sounds like a risky move by Gaffrig because it would alienate other vendors in the business as well as customers.

The story is about as long as the Trick issue......I'll look for the threads later tonight (or send you a PM with the Cliff Notes version)

I made my own shirt this morning since I was going to be working around the house....my wife thought it was pretty funny!

You going to wear it at the Miami boat show? :)