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Old 06-09-2010, 09:02 PM
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Thats C___ S_____face . You new??
YOU told me C___ S_____ Face was a term of endearment
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Old 06-09-2010, 09:03 PM
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Do you remember that party in KW when we stood in that place for hours and hours and he dropped by to scoop the money out of the tin and go back to whatever he was doing??

Does anyone think an apology would fix that event??

Do ya remember all the discussions in the BR planning and planning stuff and having us all get ready for Serious 2.0 when all along it wasn't happening cuz he stiffed the guy that he said was putting it all together?

Hey Jay, how many fkn hours did we work on the mag while all along it was never going to happen?
100 hours?
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My favorite line from KW was when he showed up and exclaimed, "Wow, I didn't do anything, but here I am and there's this great party going on."
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Originally Posted by CigDaze
My favorite line from KW was when he showed up and exclaimed, "Wow, I didn't do anything, but here I am and there's this great party going on."
We screwed up . We shouldn't have used a tin.

We should have have put the donations in a cookie jar.
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Old 06-09-2010, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Expensive Date
From what I remember he never spoke about what he did only hinted.
Here are some of the things that he said on different occaisions:

1. He owned Summit Automotive Equipment. He told me that they prototyped and fabricated automotive parts for the manufacturers. As it turns out, it was a shell company out of his house. I don't think that there is room for a big machine shop type business there!

2. He owned a military tactical consulting company. He travelled all over the Country consulting and training military and law enforcement people.

3. He was in the publishing business.

4. He owns Saccenti Powerboats. He told Myself, Nick and Alec in Oct. 2009 that one boat was almost completed and another one was in the mold. Both were already sold. This was laughable at best and really started the ball rolling. What better place to document and promote your new boat company that your own website!! Yet, never a word was mentioned on SOS.

5. He was the sole owner and founder of SOS. It turns out that this was the closest thing to being true....but still BS.

Etc, Etc, Etc...


There were 5 or 6 shell companies that were found that were all registered to the same PO Box 605 in Green, Ohio. That is in a small strip mall, most likely a mailboxes, etc or something like that.

Summit Automotive
Summit Cycle
Summit Marine
Summit Marine Rigging (This one even had a website that had some of Tres Martin's rigging jobs on the site. one of them was a 39 Dragon with 525 Merc's in it. When confronted about it, the site disappeared within days)

There were a few more, but this is getting boring........
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Old 06-09-2010, 09:23 PM
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Do you remember how many times he told us he had 120K of his money in Serious plus another 30k for the classifieds.??

We all sat around and guessed that the real answer was about 20k.

Then we were told it was really 15k. Stupid us for guessing so high.
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Hey Nick

Do ya remember when Chris blamed you when Serious 2.0 didnt happen, when you had told him all along you couldnt do it without access to the server.??
And all along he knew it couldnt happen.

Complete disrespect to his supporters.

And he's doing it tonight by hangin Dave out in the wind right now.
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Originally Posted by catastrophe
Do you remember how many times he told us he had 120K of his money in Serious plus another 30k for the classifieds.??

We all sat around and guessed that the real answer was about 20k.

Then we were told it was really 15k. Stupid us for guessing so high.
Ya, I remember that conference call.
All we can do is laugh now, hindsight being 20/20.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out the math:
https://www.vbulletin.com/order/index.php
http://www.esvon.com/pg/products/p_classifieds/pricing/
http://www.openx.org
http://www.rackspace.com/index.php

And maybe a weekend to get it all up and running.
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I've thought of a half dozen or so additional things since I posted.

He threw that 120K number around alot. Every one of the board menbers was in the room at our breakfast meeting in Key West (which Alec paid for :rolleyes) when he said that the bandwith cost was $3800 per month. Less than $150 per month is a more realistic number.....and the bill goes to someone else. I'll never forget the day when Nick found the 30 thousand dollar classifieds software for $499. That was classic!!!

I still just can't believe how phucking stupid we all were.
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Originally Posted by catastrophe
Hey Nick

Do ya remember when Chris blamed you when Serious 2.0 didnt happen, when you had told him all along you couldnt do it without access to the server.??
And all along he knew it couldnt happen.

Complete disrespect to his supporters.

And he's doing it tonight by hangin Dave out in the wind right now.
Of course. We were all there in KW when we were all told that (along with the pending proper set-up of a legitimate LLC in which we would all be stakeholders).

Then after repeated requests by me that necessary changes be made - and being blown off for months - it's all became quite apparent when we learned that the guy responsible for making it all happen was stiffed $.

I know now why he stopped responding.

Then in a desperate attempt to make something of nothing, he asks me if I can see what I can do with the CMS system....which is a basic plug-in to vBulletin which makes a cute little homepage that contains the ability to add some simple widgets.

Later he blamed me for "stalling" the 2.0 project.

Nice.

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