Crayola, You and Phragle crack (pun intended) me up, was there ever a doubt that you were butt buddies with Scott and Jeff??? Funny you 2 are the only ones that have anything positive to say about these guys.

Here you go Crayola--

I decided after going to the Lake Cumberland Poker Run that I wanted to sell my 29 Rinker and get into a go-fast boat. I looked for a few months and found the boat I wanted. It was owned by a guy named Dr. Scott Nagy DDS, a dentist from the Port Clinton/Cleveland area. I made contact with Scott and he came across as a very credible person. He talked about his church (many times) and how he goes to church with the guy that has done the service work on the boat since it was new (that would be the one and only Jeff Wilson). Well, the boat only had 30 hours on it, so as a newbie (to the power boat world) I thought "what could possibly happen or be wrong with a boat with only 30 hours.....probably nothing". Dr. Scott Nagy DDS told me on more than one occasion that this was a bone stock boat and that I needed to be very aware of other boats that are not stock as they can have many problems (I was considering another boat at the time). So after thinking about it, I did decide to call Scott Nagy's service guy, the one that he goes to church with (if I heard that once, I heard it a 1000 times while doing this deal). Jeff Wilson told me he had serviced the boat since new and it was in show room condition, just like new as I remember. I ask him for specifics about anything and everything that had been done to the boat, and he backed Scott up in telling me it is a 30 hour boat that had nothing but an oil change. Then it was his (Jeffs) turn to tell me about their church and that he has known Scott for a long time and how good of a person he was.

Which brings us to this, little did I know, Scott had bought 1 boat from Jeff and had another one ordered and wanted to get rid of the boat I was buying. So finally after numerous conversations with Scott and the fact that Jeff totally backed up Scott that the boat was perfect and like new with only one oil change, I put down a deposit and headed to Port Clinton to get my virtually new 30 hour boat.

I arrive in Port Clinton and pull up to Jeff's place and there she was, just like I saw in the pics......I was very excited to say the least! Everything was perfect, the only thing that caught my eye was that the props had left and right written on them. I ask Scott about it and he said, well a buddy of mine borrowed a drive off the boat and blew out the upper, so I put a brand new upper on it and that's why the props are marked. Ok, would have been nice to know that before I drove up there, afterall, I had ask Jeff for specifics, right? But since it was new, and I was a newbie that never dealt with a dishonest boat seller (I've bought and sold 10+ boats) I went with it. So we go into Jeff's place and close the deal. Scott tips Jeff's girl (Linda if I recall) that closed the deal and Jeff got $165 (called a loan fee in my contract).

So fast forward a couple of months-- I start getting into a Baja forum and talking powerboat stuff, I was big time now. In doing so, I dig up some old posts of Scotts asking about engine swaps. I was freaked out to say the least. So I called Baja to try and track serial numbers down. Guess what, the motors and drives on my 30 hour, bone stock, showroom new, only one oil change boat has engines and drives from another boat!!! These two guys lied through their teeth about this boat from the beginning and I took it, hook, line and sinker. On top of that, the port drive that was "brand new", blew up after about 5 hours. (can't absolutely say that was their fault because it did last 5 hours).

I immediately took the boat to my mercury dealer and guess what, my new to me 30 hour boat had 80+ hours on the motors and I assume drives as well. There was nothing stock about this boat!

So there you go Crayola, they took advantage of a newbie that had 0 posts on OSO and didn't know enough to not trust anyone selling a power boat, even if it supposedly only has 30hours. You can say it was sold "as is" if you want and that I got what I deserved, but I think people need to know what Jeff and Scott for that matter (I'm sure he'll be selling another boat at some point) are capable of.

Even after loosing several thousand dollars with higher hours and blown drive, I never intended to post this because of embarrassment in trusting these guys and not knowing a boat buying 101 point, get a survey no matter what, even if it's only got 30 hours. The reason I did post it now, is that I found out I'm not the only one that has had this type of dealing with them.

Finally Crayola, if you think it's OK for a seller and his service guy to lie through their teeth and then hide behind a contract, I think you may have some bad karma coming your way as well. If you truly know the facts on the boat that MTC sold to the elderly man that has a very critical illness and still back MTC, you're a sick puppy. I'm hopeful that the gentleman will recover to a point where he can post his details.

So as long as MTC or the seller has a contract in place to protect themselves, they are free to say whatever the he!! they want to sell the boat??? You are clearly cut from the same cloth Crayola......

If you would have posted this 8 pages ago you would have saved yourself a lot of flaming. While your at it, go ahead and post the rest of the stories that you keep mentioning.

TC, if these are the facts there is little room for misinterpretations like MTC says there might be.

If it looks like bull, smells like bull, to me its gotta be bull.

If someone Pm'd me a message saying their lawyers were monitoring this situation that would make me laugh.

Bring it on I would say...to court we go to open the can of bull....would look good on him.

Sounds like a greaseball through and through...so go ahead and pm me the threat.

Probably not the right place for this, but a related (I think) question:

Is this the same place, address/business/personnel, as J & J Sales in Port Clinton? The old Cig/Fountain dealer?

No.

Thrill,

I understand that now but I was hoping to get the others to post their stories at the same time, and maybe even start a new thread saying " beware of Jeff Wilson and MTC". But unfortunately, the elderly man is literally too sick to post anything or even deal with this chit.

As for the other stories, I don't know every fact, just that it was clear that they were told one thing and clearly did not get what they paid for as in my case. So, I want them to post their own stories with exact facts to keep this thread credible.

I can assure you these are nothing but facts, that's why you will never see Jeff Wilson or Scott Nagy refute the post, just send me another nastygram like MTCs' owner did here on OSO. I'll scan and post as they start coming in.

Stay away from J&J in PC they done a recall on my buddies sea doo jet boat and less than a couple of hours after he got it back it caught fire on the water. he took it back they replaced a few parts and a few weeks later the engine had a bearing go out under the fly wheel from a hose that burned in the fiire ( that was not replaced ) that supplied oil to the bearing ended up junking his engine as pieces of the bearing got inside the engine i thought he was going over the service counter one day dealing with this also while working on it they burnt holes in his carpet and just trashed his newly detailed interior has grease smeared all over the back seat