Jeff Jassby Vs Leverage Polish LLC, Donnie And Natasha Fulmer
11-22-2010, 10:17 PM
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How hard is sailing really getting tired of this chit.
I guess thats why I will never be a big time player.If I need a loan I go to a bank and then I pay it back usually early.I just never understood the bringing in partners and investors to much to go wrong.
I guess thats why I will never be a big time player.If I need a loan I go to a bank and then I pay it back usually early.I just never understood the bringing in partners and investors to much to go wrong.
11-22-2010, 11:01 PM
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So Jeff publishes copies of promissory notes. But nobody wants to publish any other agreements/invoices/orders/etc. All pretty much one-sided so far on The OSO Court....
I didn't click on the links, but are all the promissory notes executed by the LLC? No personal guarantees? If so, Jeff is SOL.
I didn't click on the links, but are all the promissory notes executed by the LLC? No personal guarantees? If so, Jeff is SOL.
I can't post anything up. I don't think any of my dealers would like me posting up an invoice with pricing. The only facts that I can really refer to at this time are past post on this forum and any other by myself or JJ. I just ask that everyone waits and watches if they're concerned.
11-23-2010, 05:04 AM
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Now that is a funny statement
Hope this gets worked out
Seems if you have been in this sport long enough you will have been caught up in the offshore money shuffle at one time or another. Some of us have been burned BIG and some of us small
Personally I have had my hat handed to me three times (yea you would think i would have learned) in this industry and all i can tell you is at the end of the day NO ONE wins but the lawyers
The older we get the harder it is to recover from these things
One of my favorite quotes is "We are so soon old and so late smart"
Sorry to hear some lawyer will be having another great christmas because of this sport
Hope this gets worked out
Seems if you have been in this sport long enough you will have been caught up in the offshore money shuffle at one time or another. Some of us have been burned BIG and some of us small
Personally I have had my hat handed to me three times (yea you would think i would have learned) in this industry and all i can tell you is at the end of the day NO ONE wins but the lawyers
The older we get the harder it is to recover from these things
One of my favorite quotes is "We are so soon old and so late smart"
Sorry to hear some lawyer will be having another great christmas because of this sport
11-23-2010, 05:50 AM
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Now that is a funny statement
Hope this gets worked out
Seems if you have been in this sport long enough you will have been caught up in the offshore money shuffle at one time or another. Some of us have been burned BIG and some of us small
Personally I have had my hat handed to me three times (yea you would think i would have learned) in this industry and all i can tell you is at the end of the day NO ONE wins but the lawyers
The older we get the harder it is to recover from these things
One of my favorite quotes is "We are so soon old and so late smart"
Sorry to hear some lawyer will be having another great christmas because of this sport
Hope this gets worked out
Seems if you have been in this sport long enough you will have been caught up in the offshore money shuffle at one time or another. Some of us have been burned BIG and some of us small
Personally I have had my hat handed to me three times (yea you would think i would have learned) in this industry and all i can tell you is at the end of the day NO ONE wins but the lawyers
The older we get the harder it is to recover from these things
One of my favorite quotes is "We are so soon old and so late smart"
Sorry to hear some lawyer will be having another great christmas because of this sport
11-23-2010, 06:47 AM
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Catastrophe, I seem to remember a time last spring when a certain someone was spewwing his side of the story when you couldn't say much for legal reasons. I also remember prior to that when you were still defending him. At first the argument was very one sided and other than myself and a small percentage of others it appeared that sunkin had won in the court of public opinion. The only reason I bothered to do some research on the guy was because his Apache ownership didn't match up and I had personally seen one that he claimed to own and it was quite obvious that he didn't. When I asked some questions my posts started getting poofed. Once I started digging it started to become very obvious what was going on.
The entertainment lies in the fact that people are so quick to jump on the bandwaggon without a little due diligence. I am not some sick person that wants to see people screwed out of money but I also not that trusting of people that I don't know so I check things out for myself "for entertainment purposes."
At this point I will kindly step away from this particular thread. It will work itself out in the end as they always do.
Cheers,
Josh
11-23-2010, 07:42 AM
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The way I see it is like this.
1. Jeff has documents and promissory notes detailing a loan.
2. It has not been paid back.
3. Donnie for some reason thinks not putting Leverage graphics on Jeffs boat, even though he can not produce a contract, negates the notes.
4. Donnie sold Jeff some product below his other ditributors price and Jeff sold them at a discount. No vendors agreement is posted saying Jeff can not do this.
5. Donnie was asked on this thread if he has repaid any of the money. He has yet to answer.
Graphics on boats, product sales, etc.... does not mean that the promissory notes are not valid. It seems that none of this other stuff is writing or has any contract. By default, you have to simply go on the contractual agreement.
Donnie, unless you can produce other agreements or contracts that shows Jeff is in default, you will lose your ass in court. So far, Jeff has produced the only contracts and promissory notes, which clearly state you are in breach of contract and in default.
1. Jeff has documents and promissory notes detailing a loan.
2. It has not been paid back.
3. Donnie for some reason thinks not putting Leverage graphics on Jeffs boat, even though he can not produce a contract, negates the notes.
4. Donnie sold Jeff some product below his other ditributors price and Jeff sold them at a discount. No vendors agreement is posted saying Jeff can not do this.
5. Donnie was asked on this thread if he has repaid any of the money. He has yet to answer.
Graphics on boats, product sales, etc.... does not mean that the promissory notes are not valid. It seems that none of this other stuff is writing or has any contract. By default, you have to simply go on the contractual agreement.
Donnie, unless you can produce other agreements or contracts that shows Jeff is in default, you will lose your ass in court. So far, Jeff has produced the only contracts and promissory notes, which clearly state you are in breach of contract and in default.
11-23-2010, 07:50 AM
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Here are the facts as I see it.
Donnie/Leverage/et al borrowed 30k. Donnie/Leverage/et al promised to pay back said 30k with interest.
My understanding is that repayment not happened.
Good luck Jeff getting that back.
Donnie/Leverage/et al borrowed 30k. Donnie/Leverage/et al promised to pay back said 30k with interest.
My understanding is that repayment not happened.
Good luck Jeff getting that back.
11-23-2010, 08:34 AM
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People come up with all sorts of arguments and reasons to rationalize being dishonest.
Even if what Donnie says is true regarding failure to advertise and such, unless that issue was tied specifically to the terms of the loan, which it apparently wasnt, they are (2) separate issues altogether, and if Donnie feels cheated on one end, it does not give him the right to back out on the other?
Even if what Donnie says is true regarding failure to advertise and such, unless that issue was tied specifically to the terms of the loan, which it apparently wasnt, they are (2) separate issues altogether, and if Donnie feels cheated on one end, it does not give him the right to back out on the other?
