i dont get it---UPS is 1 day away from both of you guys and he is avail enough to place ads on this forum and take peoples $$$ but too busy to do what he is paid for.

mike--you make claims on here in a public forum for HP higher than everyone elses and you duff these guys for $150 parts....what do you think that makes your reputation look like?

its embarassing to say my family is originally from the same area as you bc then they will think our family is like you--something in the drinking water up there!!!

Well said, this clown still has stuff for sale in the classifieds, i think they should boot him off the site.this guys a scumbag.

Mike Roccard Engines
 

WELL good or bad, dont know, my exsperience was to no surprise a pleasant one, i got just what i ordered and got it in just the condition it was supposed to be an as on time as i was told it would be.

Well Mike you were quick to jump on here and respond, trying to defend yourself. I couldn't agree more with all posts. $150 you are kidding, "On the Road" ok Mike you are making yourself look like a complete Idiot. If you were a standup guy at all doing any sort of good business the parts would have been shipped in a week . not still talking about it 3 months later. I just might keep this thread at the top until everyone who looks at this site knows who you are and to stays away from dealing with you. You might be better at getting a job at walmart as the person who greats customers at the door. I have seen them a few times. They stay in one place and say hello, they wear a name tag. You would be good at that job, no traveling involved, no excuses, no B.S.. Think about it Mike it is your calling you should live by the KISS rule. Keep It Simple Stupid, because your are definitely the last part of the rule.

I wont get in a mud flinging contest with anyone, nor will I allow to be called a liar.
For those who have done business with me, they know the level of customer support I offer and provide during and after the sale. If I power your boat, when the engines are installed, I will no matter where you are in the country provide setup and tuning after installation if you so choose. I also provide dockside mapping and tuning of your PCM at your location nationwide. There are times I do go from one location to another without returning to pa, depending on work load at the shop and time of year which that depends on.
When I am gone I have a someone who tries to take care of what I cant from a distance. this situation is one of them, and it was supposed to have been and was explained to me sent out, turns out it wasn't and they were reluctant to tell me that. Upon returning I discovered it wasn't and took care of it immediately myself and that is and has been settled.
This is my business and my livelihood, I don't appreciate anyone trying to destroy, damage or ruin it when I am in fact doing things right and offering more to my customers than others.... If you touch base with the gentleman who chimed in on here that purchased my trailer, I was in Alabama and never even met him when he picked it up or did the deal, it was done through fax machines and notaries from down there. So yes I am many times answering emails and calls from my mobile device and taking care of business while on the road in the warmer climate areas working during the off season up north. When I am on the road I am providing service after the sale, which very few in this industry offer and is highly appreciated by you customers.

Again I do apologize to Jerry and anyone who may have viewed this from the incorrect angle.

Mike

Well that's all fine and dandy. BUT, where are Jerry's parts? Selling parts is a business' easiest profit center as there is no labor other than boxing and shipping, UPS will pick up at your place of business until 8 pm...There is no excuse, I bought a motor from Jerry, drove to NJ and he was there to meet me and do the deal. Dont you think he deserves the same consideration as the clients you describe above? You should have only one post on this thread and it should have been " I F'd up, parts or refund should have been over nighted. the fact that neither has transpired tells me tons about you and your ethics.

If you read my reply you will see in it it was handled immediatky upon my return and his item was shipped.

The date of said occurence might help?

It is always intersting to me the people and or Businesses in the world, how they handle bad situations. I have started and or owned 6 different Businesses. When you enter into purchases or ontracts for services I agree, sometimes thinhgs always don't go perfect, but it's how the bad situations get handled that makes the success of a person or business. We all have good references out there, are you doing the right thing when you have 20 good and 30 bad !!!. Mike you have the classic defense mechanism going on. When you have a bad "Defense you keep trying to put out a good Offense". We all don't care about you telling us how good you think you are, how busy you are with traveling and sevice after the sale, and what you do so much better than others. If you are that successful I'm sure you have the means to hire a employee that could handle situations for you while you are so called " On the Road" Again people want to hear how you made it right , not how great of a job you think you do. Here's a hint. Being so successful as you are and I'm sure having a smart phone, you could have sent the customer a quick email at 2am telling them you are traveling, but in good faith you will "paypal them their money back until you are able to resolve it. Here is my resolution the customer gets his parts and his money back. that's no different than buying a customer dinner and drinks for a night out. I' sure a guy of your success $150 is nothing. Ok put your " Offense back on the field" Offshore said it right.!!!

If you really shipped his cam get a tracking # post it on here all good :drink:Maybe a mistake was made if not send his$$back!:food-smiley-007:

The camshaft was received 2 days ago -
Thankyou all , it is good to see the support and comradery amongst the hi performance boating community . I think cocktails said it right ; we all make mistakes , but the measure of any business person is how he recovers from the mistake and makes it good .
Unfortunately i will not be using the camshaft as the engine it was intended for is long gone .
I do appreciate everyones support .

Thanks Again

Well dnt know about any of the others in here that have done business with mike, I actually think there might be one, besides myself that has actually had a transaction with him, with 30 or so postings, Wow

Either or, id do business again without hesitation, I did business once had no problems, and tho this particular transaction allegadley wasnt what it was supposed to be, from what I understand there are hundreds that are without question good transactions.

Maybe we ought not besides the person involved at that particular time, be so quick to judge especially If we have never bought anything from not just this mike fellow but I see it across the entire Ofo site, for instance take a moment and look at the bashing goin on in the stolen thread of this guy with his fountain gone missing.

I Think The Ideal Of The Threads Have Gotten Lost In The Shuffle Somewhere.

Point Being Is Theres Not One Person On This Forum That Can Consider Them Selves Perfect Or Without Flaw, And Im Sure We All Have Our Short Comings, And Anyone In Business, Knows The First Rule Of Business Is That Your Not Gonna Make Everyone Happy.

Just My Thought, Based On My Purchase Which Gives Me Just As Much Right To Comment As Anyone On Here Who Purchased Nothing.
Thanks And Have A Wonderful Boating Season.

Geez man, do you have to capitalize every word?? :angry-smiley-038:

Makes it tough to read....

caps
 

omg are you serious, see the thing is i had caps on period, because alot of my passwords are in caps i dont relize it but the forum must have noticed it, and they automatically exchange the caps in for lower case i guess all except the first letter.

wow. tho seriously. ill work on it hows that, im sorry for my caps. i guess the thread was dying out and we needed something to be un happy about.

I'm glad your transaction went well, I see from your membership date you weren't a member when Nordic got screwed on a pair of boat motors. Back when that happened there were SEVERAL threads with great detail on the INCOMPETENCE, NEGLECT and outright FRAUD that took place, it wasn't a matter of a disgruntled guy waiting on 150$ worth of parts, it was a matter of a member getting charged 20,000 plus and ending up with a bunch of used parts that were supposed to have been replaced along with lifters that were installed in the motors backwards resulting in cam failure. The motors didn't make it barely 10 hours, boat was SLOWER than it was with the original motors, metal thru-out along with zero oil pressure at idle on one. Upon a documented inspection by a 3rd party it was found that parts weren't installed that were paid for and everything that was supposed to be "top notch" looked like a teenager did it, this from a self professed "engine builder" that claimed OUTRAGEOUS dyno numbers and constantly told us how great he was , there is a reason us OSO'ERS are relentless with this guy and this is one of them, Smitty

I am going to say this ONE time and ONE time only..........KNOW the facts before you place anything in print publicly. What you state as fact is not true. There were no reused parts claimed new, among many other false accusations by you. Now I am warning you, be careful what you sate and claim as fact. Because this is a fact, what you are doing is considered,libel and slander. This can get very costly for you. Copies of all your accusations have been printed and kept if I need to use them to end this.

Not to lite a match to the tread again here say does not stand up in court!:argue:

That sucks...maybe Roccard will buy the cam back seeing how long it took to deliver?

engines
 

good luck fellows,

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...ng-guru-s.html
This thread has just a few of the pics of the "professional' work that was done, the real condeming thread was deleted that had pictures of several roller lifter tie bars with the arrows facing the wrong direction thus causing the wheels to run at a angle on the camshaft but many OSO'ERS still have copys of the pics in their archives. I just re-read that thread and I had forgotten about the oil pump that fell off in the first six hours, and the broke off allen wrench that was left in the rocker nut,Smitty

If I was a "Big time engine builder" struggling to save my reputation I would have let him keep the cam and just refunded the money.....What's a hundred fifty bucks to a "big time engine builder".....

Sounds threatning.....threatning is also illegal is it not??

I wondered were all those bad business threads went on Roccard,Wasn't there some on speedwake.com also?

Roccard
 

Here is my story and I hope it helps out someone else from being taken over.I bought a boat last year.After haveing it for 6 weeks I found that I was getting water in #4 cyl.I took it apart had the top end rebuilt Complete compition valve job,new comp cam and lifters,New push rods,and Gill exhaust.The exhaust was cracked.Finished out the season and to my surprise had good oil pressure.I was worried about getting salt water in the oil and wanted more speed out of the boat.Found Mike on here and after some talking took him the boat on May 15th and was told that the rebuild of the bottom end new pistons,bigger cam and rings and bearings would be completed by the 1st week of june. Then after he took it apart he said he was going to cut my heads to raise the compression and I said not to touch them.He said it would save me $650 for the pistons because I had J&E pistons.I told him not to do it leave my heads alone He called to tell me he cut the heads and trust him he has been doing this for a long time and knew what he was doing.He then sent me a text with a picture that he wanted to replace the rockers due to rust on the tips.I said put on new and if it would hold up the job call me and I would bring up a set.After many emails and text messages being told not to WORRY he had it under control and broken promisses of the boat will be ready this week starting the 1st week of june,I finally got the call that he just water tested the boat and I would have to do some MINNOR adj when I got it to the shore because of the air difference on July the 11th missing 1/2 the summer and the 4th of july.Then he called that night to tell me the #7and 8 cyl were taking on water and he thought I needed a new block.He said he found it out friday night but water tested it any way. WOW.I told him not to touch my boat any more and I was coming to pick it up.We had words and he sent me a bill for extra's and over charged for parts.Try $450 for a used cam and no allowance for not installing the pistons like contracted.After being forced by the State Police to pay the bill in full with cash and was told go to court to settle it.Took out the motor to find used cam and 1 new and 15 used rockers,took off a brand new dbl roller chain and installed a single 1.Took my new good fuel pump rod and put in a used 1.I now have 1 bent valve and a piston with a nick in it.The heads are cut so much that no machine shop will use them on a rebuild.He cut the intake and opened up the bolt holes to make it fit,Well guess what thats where the water was coming from.Had the block checked and NO CRACKS.I do have pictures and video to show all the problems with what he did.I hope that my story keeps someone else from having the same problems that i did.I now have to bore the block put in new pistons and get a new set of heads and have it put back together the right way.

why would the state police get involed, did you have a written contract, call bbb on him , mike is a PIECE OF SH5T

roccard
 

I was told to go to them and they would go with me to get the boat.Then when we were ready to leave to get it the Tropper says there is a law in PA that of course Mike knows about that he can hold the boat until the bill is paid.Can't talk about anything else too much YET

There is a reason I keep bringing up the things he did to screw over various oso'ers in the past because I hate to see post like these. Some people are either in-competent or they just have no pride/standards,not sure in this case but this guy is to be avoided at all cost, Smitty

In most states if you owe a shop money even if you got screwed they can hold onto your boat or Automobile until bill is paid, then it is up to you to fight it out in court. Most the time if shop is substandard by the time you get a judgement they never pay it anyways, Smitty

Sorry about your dealings. Just curious though, since you found Mike on here, did you not also read the beware stories?

wondering why you still went ahead with him.

Either way, good luck.

Have any of you out there that say "Call the B.B.B." ever called them and had good results ? My experience is they are no value.
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Thats why I research someone before doing biz or even selling something to someone in the swap section,You can allways internet search, then just even reword the search and stuff comes up:drink:

call around,pm people ask questions etc.

For instance:grinser010:
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/b...p-bblades.html

roccard
 

Your right I should have looked better,that is my fault and it will never happen again.You try to be honest with people and things like this happen and it makes you loose trust that you can count on anyone.When I sold my Baja boat I spent a week going over the whole boat and even changed the starter because it started funny 1 time.The guy called after the season to thank me for selling him a good boat that he and his family had fun on.

why is this guy still around with all the people he has burned ,sooner or later he will run out of luck :angry-smiley-038:

roccard
 

I admit it I never saw the beware post,and that is my fault.I just hope the next person reads it before they end up in the same situation that I did.I am going to continue writing my story any where I can just to help prevent this from happening to anyone else.

I'm very sorry to hear about your run in with Mike. I know exactly how you feel I also trusted him and got screwed just the same. I spend months trying to get those engine running correct after he messed with them. Let me know if you need any help or advice.

Nordic95

He usually comes to defend himself,then threats

Last Activity: 08-05-2011

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/members/mike11.html

All you OSO'rs need to listen to what Articfriends/smitty is trying to tell you!

I remember quite well about Roccard's past practices that Articfriends is speaking of from a few years back.

Also, I remember Roccard posting photos of his (SUPPOSED) shop with all the machinging equipment on OSO to try to lure in customers until some of us OSO'rs began to ask him for his shop's actuall/physical address/location so that a customer could actually visit his machine shop and he still REFUSED to give his shop's address.

Roccard still does not have an actual physical address/location of his shop on his website-------why???...because last I knew Roccard doesn't really have his own MACHINE shop!

I also recall his outrageous claims to making something like 700-750+ HP out of a 454cid naturally aspirated engine with a hydraulic cam with less than 6000rpms with some secret head flow combo :rolleyes: I mean, his claims were so outrageous it was embarrassing and it was quite obvious as to what his motives were back then.

He got nailed by the OSO community back then and Roccard was quiet for a while, but then, even after all of that I still saw him trying to creep back into this website as new unsuspecting OSO'rs came on board trying to sell them his BS. After all the exposure of his true motives I couldn't believe he still tried to creep back in some of these websites.

Articfriends (Smitty) and some of us older OSO members are trying to warn all of you----(especially you new OSO'rs) of this Roccard guy. I know it's not a perfect world and you try to give someone the bennefit of the doubt, but sooner or later you will know when someone is dishonest and pulling you into their web of deception---but hopefully it is BEFORE they can pull the rug out from underneath you and take your $$$.

Mike you should be a damn shamed of yourself after reading this about yourself! You can much easier get a job at home depot fixing equipment rather than worrying about who is gonna knock on your door next...basically earn a living with no recourse for your stupidity.

If you do a Google search on Roccard or Roccard engines this thread comes up. If you do Roccard Marine Engines it doesn't show in the first few pages.

There are tons of these guys out there. I got burned awhile back .
They look for newbees and promise the world . Then they hand you a $hit sandwich . Then you learn the laws don't work and you have to cut your loses ! Every one be careful you get what you pay for !
If it's to good to be true usually it is!!!