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VancouverMark 04-28-2011 10:13 AM

Bob OETRINGER ??
 
Hi Guys
I am buying the 2 Big Blocks Bob is selling (fresh power) on the site and he is building me a third. I am in Vancouver BC, so I am doing this sight unseen and in good faith that I will get what I am paying for.

Has anyone had good or bad experiences? So far he has been nothing but great! I just want to be careful since I am handing over my $ from a long way away :)

Bob, if you read this, please understand I am just covering my a$$

Cheers
Mark

Wally 04-28-2011 10:33 AM

Do a search for OETRINGER....if the same person then you may want to think twice...

northernoffshore 04-28-2011 11:00 AM

I have done business with Bob for like 20 years now and have always been happy and trust him. He has gone out of his way to help me many times. The motors I have bought from him run great.

RunninHotRacing163.1 04-28-2011 11:14 AM

Dealt with Bob when he was here in Chi-town and good experiences & great to deal with .. good luck

thermasystems 04-28-2011 03:11 PM

As with anything, there are 18 sides to every story. Look him up, get his address, go by his house, he will talk about ANY situation with you. I have done deals with him and am currently doing deals with him. He works on my boat/boats. He will tell you like it is and not sugarcoat anything. Some people on here get their feelings hurt. Such is life.

He can build the *#@! out of an engine and you will get the product he promised. Don't be worried about Bob.

Now, Wally. what dealings have you been involved in with Bob? I am sure all that are reading this are wondering where you would get the hard feelings from?

If you have any more questions PM me.

Andy

Velocity Vector 04-28-2011 03:35 PM

Mark, I Have been dealing with Bob for the last 3 years or so and never had an issue. He has re-rigged my Velocity and rebuilt my motors in it. Bob is currently building my 35' Ocean Express cat with blower motors. Here is the motors Bob is putting whipples on for me. He's good to me and like a brother. I did like thermasystems said, I went to his house from Oklahoma to FL and after viewing his shop and his work Bob will be doing all my work. Bob know's more about boats and motors and rigging than RunninHotRacing163.1 knows about porn.:lolhit:

Wally 04-28-2011 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by thermasystems (Post 3389587)
Now, Wally. what dealings have you been involved in with Bob? I am sure all that are reading this are wondering where you would get the hard feelings from?
Andy

I have no personal dealing with the guy, like i said "if its the same person".......i have been around more then a few people that have dropped that name over the years and had both good and bad things to say...just do you own investigating...

Do a search on this site....better yet here ya go for your reading pleasure:

Maybe PM 10x to get the story from him.


http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/c...years-ago.html

PARADISE ISLAND 04-28-2011 04:45 PM

I whould not buy with out expert to check motors compression,leak down!etc..I think it whould be a safer way then asking people on here to judge!peace

VancouverMark 04-28-2011 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by thermasystems (Post 3389587)
As with anything, there are 18 sides to every story. Look him up, get his address, go by his house, he will talk about ANY situation with you. I have done deals with him and am currently doing deals with him. He works on my boat/boats. He will tell you like it is and not sugarcoat anything. Some people on here get their feelings hurt. Such is life.

He can build the *#@! out of an engine and you will get the product he promised. Don't be worried about Bob.

Now, Wally. what dealings have you been involved in with Bob? I am sure all that are reading this are wondering where you would get the hard feelings from?

If you have any more questions PM me.

Andy

Awesome, thanks to you all for backing up what I already thought. Bob has been an incredible guy for me.

Cheers
Mark

gbochis 04-28-2011 07:22 PM

Bob O
 
I have known Bob for over 12 years. I have purchased 3 pleasure boats from him (Two of which he custom built), and been involed in 2 race boats. I never had a problem with any of his work or his billing. He was always very fair. When I decided to do some "P" class racing with my Dad 4 years ago I retained Bob to assemble the equipment, build the motors, and manage the team. In the process I first bought a 1974 35' Cig (the former Daddy Cool) He rewired and refreshed it. Then I bought the former Michelob Light a 1977 Scarab and he did a TOTAL restoration of it for me. (Top Banna had some pictures on the Horba site of what Bob started with). Through out all these boats, motors, and projects Bob has always been more careful with spending my money than I have ever been! If you want to speak with me just ask Bob for my number. George Bochis

Velocity Vector 04-28-2011 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by gbochis (Post 3389743)
I never had a problem with any of his work or his billing. He was always very fair.

Couldn't agree more, Bob and I are going to race the 35' Ocean express cat after she's done. I'm all excited Bob is giving a nobody like me the chance to race a boat he's building from the ground up for us.

searaycer 04-28-2011 07:45 PM

I bought a 230 Conquest Power Play from Bob, with engine issues ....it was totally represented as what it was up front...no bull****! Straight shooter in my book!

VancouverMark 04-28-2011 07:58 PM

Thanks!
 
Thanks guys for weighing in and confirming my thoughts. Us boat guys are a good breed and we stick together. Bob has gone out of his way to help me out and think of everything for my project, so I already thought highly of him, now I have no doubt. Thanks again for your support, you do him proud!

I am very excited that Bob is doing this project for me, thi boat is my dram boat and I am super excited it will have some awesome endurance engines under the deck!

Cheers
Mark

Velocity Vector 04-28-2011 08:04 PM

Bob's moto>>>when in dought, nail the throttles to the dash.

Here is a nice shot of Bob in Obsession II The tall one in the middle rolling the joint.:party-smiley-004:

RunninHotRacing163.1 04-28-2011 08:18 PM


Originally Posted by Velocity Vector (Post 3389755)
Couldn't agree more, Bob and I are going to race the 35' Ocean express cat after she's done. I'm all excited Bob is giving a nobody like me the chance to race a boat he's building from the ground up for us.

you got that right :eek::lolhit:

Velocity Vector 04-28-2011 08:20 PM


Originally Posted by RunninHotRacing163.1 (Post 3389798)
you got that right :eek::lolhit:

I have valve grinding compound you know:angry-smiley-038:

dieselprop 04-28-2011 08:32 PM

Bob Eats boats for dinner.+
Big Block Chevy no big deal.+
The guy is drug free.+
Not a Boozer.++
Bob has been into this stuff longer then most on this site.+
Back in the 80s he had a Flat bottom that was a winner and untouchable at speed.+
Bob knows Boats in all aspects.+
Let all KNOW that he is the guy that STARTED
Active Thunder Boats not the guy that has it now and BS everyone that he started it WRONG.....
Money makes power and his advanced knowledge will get the job done++
Keep in mind what you put this power in makes the def on how it performs are chimes sharp.
Is it a tank.------No Good
Tells us what kind of boat your powering.
Bob will be fine and you will be happy.+
Don't be dumb when you get the engines and do something stupid be smart take your time.
Rev limiters are a must for a slow hand.
Roller Cams is a must have.+
Dino engines is a must.+
Ask a ton of question drives him nuts.++
And yes i have given Bob money for a new boat and it was and is mint too this day.+++THUNDER 31Hull#16
Unlike the Fountains that stress mark all over the dash give me a brake.
Have fun your gone **** when you hit the throttles.+++++
And if your not happy i would move in with him and drive him F---ing NUTS.
Good luck send picture and put on your life preserver because that thing is gona hall ass.

endeavor1 04-28-2011 11:07 PM


Originally Posted by Velocity Vector (Post 3389609)
Bob know's more about boats and motors and rigging than RunninHotRacing163.1 knows about porn.:lolhit:

Holy chit!!!! what about Pinky? :party-smiley-004: :lolhit:

DareDevil 04-29-2011 02:14 AM


Originally Posted by endeavor1 (Post 3389956)
Holy chit!!!! what about Pinky? :party-smiley-004: :lolhit:

NOW THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION !!!!!

BTW, i can only say this ..BOB IS THE MAN !

and also,,your welcome VV ! :party-smiley-004:

RunninHotRacing163.1 04-29-2011 07:09 AM


Originally Posted by endeavor1 (Post 3389956)
Holy chit!!!! what about Pinky? :party-smiley-004: :lolhit:

OUCH !!!!:eek: now that one hurt :lolhit::drink:

endeavor1 04-29-2011 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by RunninHotRacing163.1 (Post 3390064)
OUCH !!!!:eek: now that one hurt :lolhit::drink:

:coolcowboy: now I wasn't trying to be mean billy. How's it going for ya anyways?

RunninHotRacing163.1 04-29-2011 10:34 AM


Originally Posted by endeavor1 (Post 3390212)
:coolcowboy: now I wasn't trying to be mean billy. How's it going for ya anyways?

doing great BIG Daddy livin everyday like its christmas :drink: if this rain will get the h@ll out of here ,more rain sat & sun thank goodness for indoor activities :eek::lolhit:

dieselprop 04-30-2011 03:19 PM

MPG RACE ENGINES HIGHLAND PARK IL
http://www.mpgracingengines.com/
ALSO STANDS IN FRONT OF IT'S WORK

throttleman 05-02-2011 05:43 PM

was the one on the right with the sticks

Enough 4 Play 05-02-2011 07:19 PM

Let us know how it turns out when it is done. Good luck to you!!!!

PARADISE ISLAND 05-03-2011 05:37 PM

He's got my vote!

Velocity Vector 05-03-2011 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by throttleman (Post 3392479)
was the one on the right with the sticks

Bob told me you guy's were like rock stars:party-smiley-048::party-smiley-048::party-smiley-048:

10x 05-03-2011 08:42 PM


Originally Posted by Wally (Post 3389629)
I have no personal dealing with the guy, like i said "if its the same person".......i have been around more then a few people that have dropped that name over the years and had both good and bad things to say...just do you own investigating...

Do a search on this site....better yet here ya go for your reading pleasure:

Maybe PM 10x to get the story from him.


http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/c...years-ago.html


Well, after hearing about all the people that are spending money with this scumbag, I can't find one reason why he can't pay me back the $75K I paid him to build my boat, and got NOTHIN back in return but a bunch of excuses and broken promises of how he was gonna repay me. Phuckin scumbag loser in my book, and I can't wait to run into him in person, and one day.................I will. Just hope that he don't owe anyone else any money when that day arrives. :angry-smiley-038:

northernoffshore 05-03-2011 09:26 PM


Originally Posted by 10x (Post 3393828)
Well, after hearing about all the people that are spending money with this scumbag, I can't find one reason why he can't pay me back the $75K I paid him to build my boat, and got NOTHIN back in return but a bunch of excuses and broken promises of how he was gonna repay me. Phuckin scumbag loser in my book, and I can't wait to run into him in person, and one day.................I will. Just hope that he don't owe anyone else any money when that day arrives. :angry-smiley-038:

:bsflag:

DareDevil 05-03-2011 10:02 PM


Originally Posted by 10x (Post 3393828)
Well, after hearing about all the people that are spending money with this scumbag, I can't find one reason why he can't pay me back the $75K I paid him to build my boat, and got NOTHIN back in return but a bunch of excuses and broken promises of how he was gonna repay me. Phuckin scumbag loser in my book, and I can't wait to run into him in person, and one day.................I will. Just hope that he don't owe anyone else any money when that day arrives. :angry-smiley-038:

i would love to see this..but i also think its BS..just my thought.:bsflag:

PARADISE ISLAND 05-04-2011 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by 10x (Post 3393828)
Well, after hearing about all the people that are spending money with this scumbag, I can't find one reason why he can't pay me back the $75K I paid him to build my boat, and got NOTHIN back in return but a bunch of excuses and broken promises of how he was gonna repay me. Phuckin scumbag loser in my book, and I can't wait to run into him in person, and one day.................I will. Just hope that he don't owe anyone else any money when that day arrives. :angry-smiley-038:

Why didn't you take the pot plants as payment if he had no cash?:evilb:

thermasystems 05-04-2011 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by 10x (Post 3393828)
Well, after hearing about all the people that are spending money with this scumbag, I can't find one reason why he can't pay me back the $75K I paid him to build my boat, and got NOTHIN back in return but a bunch of excuses and broken promises of how he was gonna repay me. Phuckin scumbag loser in my book, and I can't wait to run into him in person, and one day.................I will. Just hope that he don't owe anyone else any money when that day arrives. :angry-smiley-038:

Sounds like a threat to me....

10X.... can you elaborate to the board on how exactly all of this went down? I am sure we are all curious. Was it a cash transaction? Banks involved? Any shady stuff???

Forgive me for asking, I just can't imagine anybody letting someone get 75k ahead of me and them just walking away??

And I have to say again, there are probably numerous sides to every story. The only experiences I have had or seen with Bob have been above board and flawless, maybe there were some other things going on.

When exactly did he rob you of this money?? Recently?

PARADISE ISLAND 05-04-2011 06:41 PM

Rebuilding a boat I can see 75k easy don't know either party but some stuff had to be done??I whould think he'd get legal or even worse fist fighting!OK whos bigger:angry-smiley-038:

thermasystems 05-04-2011 07:41 PM

Frank.

I just went by Bob's and had an interesting conversation. He wants to stay out of this but offers out of the kindness of his heart a shark fishing trip in SW Florida any time you are ready.

But I feel like you are out of line and need a correction.

Why do you keep saying he screwed you out of 75k when you know it is incorrect? It was $36,600 for the hull and you borrowed 75k from the bank. He never even received the $36,600. If you would like me to go into the banking issues and the BK and not paying the balance for the completed contract for years before the boat went away I will. But I would think you would want to drop it as to not look like a fraudulent d-bag.

I don't know you, never met you, probably never will. But I think you should drop it, or get the story straight. If you don't, someone else will.

If you doubt I saw the contract it was from November 20, 1989!!!!!!!

Have a good day.

Enough 4 Play 05-04-2011 10:46 PM


Originally Posted by thermasystems (Post 3394868)
Frank.

I just went by Bob's and had an interesting conversation. He wants to stay out of this but offers out of the kindness of his heart a shark fishing trip in SW Florida any time you are ready.

But I feel like you are out of line and need a correction.

Why do you keep saying he screwed you out of 75k when you know it is incorrect? It was $36,600 for the hull and you borrowed 75k from the bank. He never even received the $36,600. If you would like me to go into the banking issues and the BK and not paying the balance for the completed contract for years before the boat went away I will. But I would think you would want to drop it as to not look like a fraudulent d-bag.

I don't know you, never met you, probably never will. But I think you should drop it, or get the story straight. If you don't, someone else will.

If you doubt I saw the contract it was from November 20, 1989!!!!!!!

Have a good day.

There are a lot of people in Illinois that had bad dealings with Bob. Why do you think he fled to Florida years ago. I know first hand and trust me it was not a good experience.

gbochis 05-05-2011 08:27 AM

I don't know what to say, except that I feel bad for Bob (and any other person) who has to be subjected to some of the people who post on these boards in order to get trade references.

I am not naive, I know that there are plenty of swindlers in the marine industry. In fact some of the greatest legends in the sport that are so "worshiped" on this board had that reputation!

I don't know who 10x is, but he obviously has a problem. I have know Bob for over 12 years. (see my previous post) I found him through a magazine advertisement for his boat company. He was not secluded in some bunker hiding from his "Chicago" past. He was running a boat company and promoting it personally. Basically, he was easy to find, so if 10x truly had a legitimate beef it would have been simple to settle this matter by either "running in to him" as he so boldly suggested in his post, or in a legal forum. Apparently 10x chose neither. Also, this alleged event was over 15 years ago, if it happened in Chicago. Do you know how much 75k bought back then? That's over 200k in today's dollars. Imagine the idiot you would have to be to let anybody get 200k ahead of you on a deal with out insisting on some type of security. Yes 10x I am talking to you.

I know that on both boats that Bob custom built for me the deal was simple. We executed a contract for the construction of the boat. I made a small deposit before construction started. When the hull and deck were complete a progress payment was due. At that time a HIN # was identifiable on the hull and title was put in escrow subject to completion of the contractual obligations. The third payment was due when rigging was complete. The fourth and final payment became due and payable upon a successfull sea trial. This program was the one Bob presented to me. It is simply how he does things. It worked that way on the 32ft cat he built for me ($150k) It also worked exactly like that on the 50ft 4 engine outboard center console he built for me 4 years later ($525k). On both restoration projects he did (35 Cig and 38 Scarab) for me he proposed a simple cost plus agreement. As expenses accrued Bob presented me with the bills to review and they were paid. On a monthly basis we would do a tally and I would pay an overhead and profit fee to him based on the months work. Again this was Bob's set up not mine. We used the same type of deal to run the race team.
If Bob was going to screw somebody over I would have been a prime candidate. Also I have been around Bob at the shop, and at race sites all over the country, and with the exception of some heated discussions with a competitor at one race, I have never seen anyone angry or upset with Bob. I never had anyone warn me or tell me anything negative about him personally or his mechanical abilities. To conclude, after over 12 years of doing business, and over $1,000,000 spent. NO COMPLAINTS

thermasystems 05-05-2011 09:09 AM


Originally Posted by gbochis (Post 3395296)
I don't know what to say, except that I feel bad for Bob (and any other person) who has to be subjected to some of the people who post on these boards in order to get trade references.

I am not naive, I know that there are plenty of swindlers in the marine industry. In fact some of the greatest legends in the sport that are so "worshiped" on this board had that reputation!

I don't know who 10x is, but he obviously has a problem. I have know Bob for over 12 years. (see my previous post) I found him through a magazine advertisement for his boat company. He was not secluded in some bunker hiding from his "Chicago" past. He was running a boat company and promoting it personally. Basically, he was easy to find, so if 10x truly had a legitimate beef it would have been simple to settle this matter by either "running in to him" as he so boldly suggested in his post, or in a legal forum. Apparently 10x chose neither. Also, this alleged event was over 15 years ago, if it happened in Chicago. Do you know how much 75k bought back then? That's over 200k in today's dollars. Imagine the idiot you would have to be to let anybody get 200k ahead of you on a deal with out insisting on some type of security. Yes 10x I am talking to you.

I know that on both boats that Bob custom built for me the deal was simple. We executed a contract for the construction of the boat. I made a small deposit before construction started. When the hull and deck were complete a progress payment was due. At that time a HIN # was identifiable on the hull and title was put in escrow subject to completion of the contractual obligations. The third payment was due when rigging was complete. The fourth and final payment became due and payable upon a successfull sea trial. This program was the one Bob presented to me. It is simply how he does things. It worked that way on the 32ft cat he built for me ($150k) It also worked exactly like that on the 50ft 4 engine outboard center console he built for me 4 years later ($525k). On both restoration projects he did (35 Cig and 38 Scarab) for me he proposed a simple cost plus agreement. As expenses accrued Bob presented me with the bills to review and they were paid. On a monthly basis we would do a tally and I would pay an overhead and profit fee to him based on the months work. Again this was Bob's set up not mine. We used the same type of deal to run the race team.
If Bob was going to screw somebody over I would have been a prime candidate. Also I have been around Bob at the shop, and at race sites all over the country, and with the exception of some heated discussions with a competitor at one race, I have never seen anyone angry or upset with Bob. I never had anyone warn me or tell me anything negative about him personally or his mechanical abilities. To conclude, after over 12 years of doing business, and over $1,000,000 spent. NO COMPLAINTS

Well there ya have it.

Soooooo, 10x. Why didn't you pay the balance on a contract you signed and ran from it for 2+ years??

All of us in business love customers like you, first you string us out, then screw us over ultimately.

And out of some mental incompetence you get on a public forum to blast us for years how you got screwed.

Sound like a winner to me!! or maybe it is weiner...

:lolhit:

Catmando 05-05-2011 09:34 AM

The tall one in the middle rolling the joint.


My kind of man!! :coolcowboy: :D

northernoffshore 05-05-2011 09:48 AM

[QUOTE=Enough 4 Play;3395105]There are a lot of people in Illinois that had bad dealings with Bob. Why do you think he fled to Florida years ago. I know first hand and trust me it was not a good experience.[/QUOTE /] .......................... I witnessed the so called "bad dealings" and you guys were the blame. You had Bob build you boats you could not afford and then cried broke when he needed the agreed upon monies to complete. IMO he went way out of his way to keep you guys happy in spite of the b.s. everyone threw at him. Some of the prices he charged for hulls were so low that I could of almost afforded 1,. I remember 15,000.00 for a brand new 31(bare hull) with a bracket , the guy made money on that boat even after 5 years of use. Rigging boats cost money there not built with your dreams. (or 10x yours would schemes) Every time I went there to get advice he would take the time to help me even though he didn't know or make any money from me and I have 100% trust in bob. and BTW It is 85 degrees outside today and beautiful, so the only thing I fled away from was the weather.

RunninHotRacing163.1 05-05-2011 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by Catmando (Post 3395400)
The tall one in the middle rolling the joint.


My kind of man!! :coolcowboy: :D

H@mo:lolhit::party-smiley-004:


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