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Panther 05-17-2011 04:09 PM

I'm no lawyer but it looks like they bought interest in the team, not a seat on the boat. I remember this boat having lots of engine problems? I guess they didn't get any ROI or a seat on the boat. Did MikeyFIN get a seat on the boat in KW?

Good luck to everyone... Seems like misinterpretation of a contract on the investor and some misguidance from the contractor... Just my $.02.

Catastrophe 05-17-2011 04:31 PM


Originally Posted by Panther (Post 3405636)
I'm no lawyer but it looks like they bought interest in the team, not a seat on the boat. I remember this boat having lots of engine problems? I guess they didn't get any ROI or a seat on the boat. Did MikeyFIN get a seat on the boat in KW?

Good luck to everyone... Seems like misinterpretation of a contract on the investor and some misguidance from the contractor... Just my $.02.

Yes. Good luck with all of this. Very unfortunate.
I hope it doesnt stop you from coming over and fullfilling your dream of racing in the USA.

Racegirl3 05-17-2011 07:40 PM

Ahhhh .....

So ... there wasnt an agreement between you and a LLC, you and Gino were forming a LLC together. Got it.

DareDevil 05-17-2011 09:56 PM


Originally Posted by Racegirl3 (Post 3405817)
Ahhhh .....

So ... there wasnt an agreement between you and a LLC, you and Gino were forming a LLC together. Got it.

YES, and i never agreed on his GF to be on the LLC !

Also the funny thing about this contract is that HE made it up ..not me . So there is no way i could of misrepresented him anything !

He knew the deal and if he wanted to be in the boat it would cost him extra ..hence the 50% HIS SHARE !! That i never seen a dime of, if there would of been sponsors or money made ..AS OF THE CONTARCT HE IS ENTITLED TO 50% OF THAT !
But he does not understand what he whrote and signed, thats the problem !
Phanter, Mika had no seat in KW...we never agreed on that he came to KW to hang out and watch. He raced in clearwater before KW. He did not pay me for KW to be in the boat, he basicly payed half of the condo which was cheaper then a hotel room !
That is why i dont understand what he has to do with this !?

Petri on the otherhand is upset because he could not manage to screw me and i caught it and kept the money from the first deal for the unpaid second !
I also never said i payed OPA, i said i have to pay the full amount even for 1 race and that it would cost him a few bucks more now! He said ..NO under these surcomestands i will not race with you , i said fine so we are good !

About the Fb page, things like that are not funny..no matter if me or anybody else..it shows what kind of POOR caracters they are !

Bob Oetringer if anything owes me money and the hatch is still today not finished + the estimat was 400 and i buy the materials..which i did !

WHAT A BUNCH OF MORONS !!!!
A lot of people dont like me and i know that , but i dont scam anybody i am just DEAD HONEST and thats what people don't like !

OVER AND OUT !

DareDevil 05-17-2011 10:16 PM


Originally Posted by PARADISE ISLAND (Post 3405625)
It's not good for boat racing me & my brother have leased or rented race boats for years without a hitch?Sad but I whould not pay till boat is @ race ready to go with me&sponsors name on boat!No LLC stuff just simple agreement,dunk test,hold harmless,drivers meeting then race&hope you win!I met him awards in New Jersey he was pro Fountain so I liked him??Then he sold parts to someone on here and had problems!Not a safe bet to pay to race with him!He's not USA born either go figure with his team name&paint job!

WWWHHHHHAAAAAAAAATTTTTT ??????

I am born in Columbus GA USA in 1971, do you need to see my passport ???

phragle 05-17-2011 11:41 PM

But even if they did actually race, wouldn't they have broken out 27 times, then broke anyways???

jayboat 05-18-2011 06:23 AM

Parade Laps
 

Originally Posted by phragle (Post 3406078)
But even if they did actually race, wouldn't they have broken out 27 times, then broke anyways???

Options for boat breaking:

1) out
2) down
3) up
4) 2 and 3 ONLY

DareDevil 05-18-2011 07:22 AM


Originally Posted by jayboat (Post 3406135)
Options for boat breaking:

1) out
2) down
3) up
4) 2 and 3 ONLY

uuuuhhhhh ????

PhantomChaos 05-18-2011 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by jayboat (Post 3406135)
Options for boat breaking:

1) out
2) down
3) up
4) 2 and 3 ONLY

You forgot about "breaking in". :drink:

DareDevil 05-18-2011 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by phragle (Post 3406078)
But even if they did actually race, wouldn't they have broken out 27 times, then broke anyways???

the funny part about braking out.....the record is 134 times in 1 race !! MARATHON 2009

Which beats love muscles brake out record from 2008 in Morehead...126 times ..:lolhit:

jayboat 05-18-2011 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by PhantomChaos (Post 3406322)
You forgot about "breaking in". :drink:

Boat has never run long enough at any one time to qualify for this option. :evilb:

MikeyFIN 05-19-2011 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by mrfixxall (Post 3404534)
i believe i met him years ago,,i think he was the rigger for catcando boat, it was about 3 am and he was giving a girl a ride home on a scooter before he hit the center median on us41 north bound in sarasota. i never laughed so hard watching those 2 go over the handle bars..

Can't be, Scotty doensn't know how to handle a scooter or anything on 2 wheels... he even rearended his "Porsche" read VW Rabbit on an Autobahn in Germany.... and they are straight.... a lot straighter than Nordschleife I'll be doing this summer...
:lolhit:

MikeyFIN 05-19-2011 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by Panther (Post 3405636)
I'm no lawyer but it looks like they bought interest in the team, not a seat on the boat. I remember this boat having lots of engine problems? I guess they didn't get any ROI or a seat on the boat. Did MikeyFIN get a seat on the boat in KW?

Good luck to everyone... Seems like misinterpretation of a contract on the investor and some misguidance from the contractor... Just my $.02.

In Clearwater... and Scotty told the trim pump was defect after his equipment got his ass handed to him before a half a lap... I was pissed at his mouthiung off being This time competitive while 2 days before the race testing I could tell it's a POS.. but still got a podium despite DNF and it cost me not much but still dissapointed. In KW I joined Scotty just to help him as while Tommy Palasciano (without my knowledge in advance) got shafted this time, while I saw what was happening me and Tommy left Scotty *****ing by himself as he had no money to Party, but, WE had FUN despite Scotty trying to start an argue. I even had his wife out with us partying and demanded Scott to stay once, some bought this sorry ass drinks and you could tell he took it hard.
KW was a disaster with him but without him..well you guys know who you are and we'll meet again :) and Anastasia and her coworkers att RGS ;).. she was nice off duty..WUFF ;)

Regarding Scotty's mouthing of being a kickboxing champion of Germany at 15 yrs (not possible in Europe) and to Petri as a Muay Thai skilled guy I might check his cards as I've been around MuayThai a little... and then some. But I'm intolerant to his threats and using martial arts in the process.. looking at him I couldn't take his threats seriously or boasting..

On a plus side he introduced me to a lot of peeps, one being above all... Apache Lucy.:kiss:

MikeyFIN 05-19-2011 01:48 PM


Originally Posted by catastrophe (Post 3405649)
Yes. Good luck with all of this. Very unfortunate.
I hope it doesnt stop you from coming over and fullfilling your dream of racing in the USA.

Defo not, on the contrary... but this summer I'll be healing my bones as of a bikecrash (GSX1100) two weeks ago and attacking Nordschleife with a guy who once put Felipe Massa where he belonged... in the ditch...:drink:

MikeyFIN 05-19-2011 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by BattleCry (Post 3405105)

catastrophe
My suggestion to you is donate some money and see if you get scammed. The way I see it, you already have a Doctorate in donating money to scam artists, so it should be a breeze for you.

Big Andy

That's gotta hurt but c next time.. I'll buy you one for the effort :):party-smiley-004:

MikeyFIN 05-19-2011 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by PARADISE ISLAND (Post 3405625)
It's not good for boat racing me & my brother have leased or rented race boats for years without a hitch?Sad but I whould not pay till boat is @ race ready to go with me&sponsors name on boat!No LLC stuff just simple agreement,dunk test,hold harmless,drivers meeting then race&hope you win!I met him awards in New Jersey he was pro Fountain so I liked him??Then he sold parts to someone on here and had problems!Not a safe bet to pay to race with him!He's not USA born either go figure with his team name&paint job!


He is US born as far as he told me but lived his basically first 30 yrs doing something unverified in Germany.

Downtown42 05-20-2011 09:14 AM

Daredevil purchased my boat cover and some dock lines with no issues. Sent me a personal check and I sent the goods. Just my short experience with him.

rchevelle71 05-20-2011 09:34 AM

He is in the pits at Cocoa

MikeyFIN 05-20-2011 05:58 PM


Originally Posted by Downtown42 (Post 3408160)
Daredevil purchased my boat cover and some dock lines with no issues. Sent me a personal check and I sent the goods. Just my short experience with him.


as the german powerboaters call him... a daytimerobber....

MikeyFIN 05-20-2011 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by rchevelle71 (Post 3408188)
He is in the pits at Cocoa

Why????

MikeyFIN 05-21-2011 03:46 AM

If Scotty had kids....http://cdn.pimpmyspace.org/media/pms...3p/redneck.jpg

berns29scarab 05-21-2011 11:25 PM


Originally Posted by bad reputation (Post 3405299)
I just got confirmed from OPA Raceorganizer that Scott hasnīt payed his registration fees for 2011. I had an contract with him to race Sunny Island Beach event. At 4mars he mailed me and told me he needed to pay registration for that race urgent and i wired money, which he never payed OPA he just stole them!........just one little small proof of his fraudental games.

sent you an inbox private message

berns29scarab 05-21-2011 11:48 PM


Originally Posted by bad reputation (Post 3405299)
I just got confirmed from OPA Raceorganizer that Scott hasnīt payed his registration fees for 2011. I had an contract with him to race Sunny Island Beach event. At 4mars he mailed me and told me he needed to pay registration for that race urgent and i wired money, which he never payed OPA he just stole them!........just one little small proof of his fraudental games.

if you have the funding and want to deal with someone str8 forward and honest with a solid reputation whos not a thief...contact me 732-539-5882 Bernie ...lost my driver and sponsor and cant afford to go it alone

bad reputation 05-22-2011 03:43 AM

Solid true reputation
 
Thanks for sharing your story, sent you an mail.
Nice to hear and have such suportive feedback as we had in these last days.

rchevelle71 05-23-2011 07:15 AM


Originally Posted by MikeyFIN (Post 3408545)
Why????

He raced, actually got second place..............After 2 boats dropped out due to mechanical trouble:evilb:. Looks like his mechanical gremlins are gone, and we found them:angry-smiley-038: He was actually well behaved, and kinda fun to be around this weekend.

Catastrophe 05-23-2011 08:26 AM


Originally Posted by rchevelle71 (Post 3410051)
He raced, actually got second place..............After 2 boats dropped out due to mechanical trouble:evilb:. Looks like his mechanical gremlins are gone, and we found them:angry-smiley-038: He was actually well behaved, and kinda fun to be around this weekend.

How many boats were in that class that finished the race??

rchevelle71 05-23-2011 10:18 AM


Originally Posted by catastrophe (Post 3410119)
How many boats were in that class that finished the race??

3 finished, we had ignition/fuel pressure issues, and national guard had internal engine issues. Oh, I see where you were going with that:lolhit: Judging by the speeds from the results page at SBI, if we would have got our issues fixed, Velocity would have had to wake up to get the win.

P4-1 TEAM VELOCITY
70.4 70.7 70.4 70.4 68.5 70.2 69.9 69.2 69.4 ------
------------------------------ 49.5 69.94 -- 00:42:28 1 532
P4-30 DARE DEVIL
67.5 70.2 67.8 63.4 64.7 67.3 64.5 67.3 65.5 ------
------------------------------ 49.5 66.44 -- 00:44:42 2 471
P4-65 JP MOTORSPORTS
59.1 65.5 63.0 64.9 65.3 63.8 63.2 64.0 63.8 ------
------------------------------ 49.5 63.62 -- 00:46:41 3 405
P4-00 PETERS & MAY FORMULA
------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------ 0.0 0.00 -- 00:00:00 DNS 0
P4-2 FLORIDA NATIONAL GUARD
------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------ 0.0 0.00 -- 00:00:00 DNS 0

MikeyFIN 05-23-2011 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by rchevelle71 (Post 3410249)
3 finished, we had ignition/fuel pressure issues, and national guard had internal engine issues. Oh, I see where you were going with that:lolhit: Judging by the speeds from the results page at SBI, if we would have got our issues fixed, Velocity would have had to wake up to get the win.

P4-1 TEAM VELOCITY
70.4 70.7 70.4 70.4 68.5 70.2 69.9 69.2 69.4 ------
------------------------------ 49.5 69.94 -- 00:42:28 1 532
P4-30 DARE DEVIL
67.5 70.2 67.8 63.4 64.7 67.3 64.5 67.3 65.5 ------
------------------------------ 49.5 66.44 -- 00:44:42 2 471
P4-65 JP MOTORSPORTS
59.1 65.5 63.0 64.9 65.3 63.8 63.2 64.0 63.8 ------
------------------------------ 49.5 63.62 -- 00:46:41 3 405
P4-00 PETERS & MAY FORMULA
------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------ 0.0 0.00 -- 00:00:00 DNS 0
P4-2 FLORIDA NATIONAL GUARD
------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------ 0.0 0.00 -- 00:00:00 DNS 0

With those speeds the race wouldīve been cancelled overhere :) on the other hand our race laps are longer than some total races in US... hell our 24 foot cats would run circles around those in anyweather...come on ...honestly.

With the speeds posted daredevil has run slower still than before....so no wonder he didnīt break this time, heīs saving his equipment and jacking money from Kurt who thinks they are racing... I know how that dirtbag works... so still no kudos for the "effort"

berns29scarab 05-23-2011 02:47 PM

didnt speed girl as for proof as to the wrong doings be displayed ? proof of payment ? copy of the signed contract/agreement etc ?

MikeyFIN 05-23-2011 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by catastrophe (Post 3410119)
How many boats were in that class that finished the race??

So few that over here the results wouldīve been inofficial and no championship points for the finishers...gotta be at least 5 to finish.

bad reputation 05-23-2011 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by MikeyFIN (Post 3410549)
With those speeds the race wouldīve been cancelled overhere :) on the other hand our race laps are longer than some total races in US... hell our 24 foot cats would run circles around those in anyweather...come on ...honestly.

With the speeds posted daredevil has run slower still than before....so no wonder he didnīt break this time, heīs saving his equipment and jacking money from Kurt who thinks they are racing... I know how that dirtbag works... so still no kudos for the "effort"

You sure have good knowledge about that man.

DareDevil 05-23-2011 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by MikeyFIN (Post 3410549)
With those speeds the race wouldīve been cancelled overhere :) on the other hand our race laps are longer than some total races in US... hell our 24 foot cats would run circles around those in anyweather...come on ...honestly.

With the speeds posted daredevil has run slower still than before....so no wonder he didnīt break this time, heīs saving his equipment and jacking money from Kurt who thinks they are racing... I know how that dirtbag works... so still no kudos for the "effort"

you little piss doushbag mother****er...i helped you here , u stayed at my house for free i drove you to and from airport and u never took my wife out !!!
U knew in KW Tom would race since u had no money to race but you wanted to help..if the boat was a POS after testing why did u race and why did u want to help, YOU RACE ??? u cant even back up a truck on a 50 foot wide boat ramp..and when i yeld at you you cushed like a baby !! WTF !!!!! i should of beatn your ass but i listend to my wife because she felt sdorry for your brainless actings !

And on an other note..these are lap speeds ******* !
I hope we meet again, and maybe you can bring the other 2 liars with ya ...i can't wait to meet all 3 of ya at one place ...oh, and no worrys i be bymyself !

TOOO FUNNY !!!

Wonder why i am banned and not you for talking a lot of **** ! that does explain your brown eyes !!!!:eek:

MikeyFIN 05-23-2011 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by berns29scarab (Post 3410552)
didnt speed girl as for proof as to the wrong doings be displayed ? proof of payment ? copy of the signed contract/agreement etc ?

Iīve seen them on bad reps case... all I can say is someone runs with stolen money...is it worthwhile to go the length in court in US as the legal system work there nowadays, no as itīs total lottery IMO. So thatīs how daredevil gets away with all this. The first one I know who got stiffled shot himself... the next one had to pay the whole entrant fees of one season to just race one race....can we blame all on one guy ... nope but canīt let him go like nothing happened either...

MikeyFIN 05-23-2011 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by bad reputation (Post 3410559)
You sure have good knowledge about that man.

My nose despite being broken in boxing twice still has itīs senses left... and being in the restaurant and import biz I can tell crap from proper...

DareDevil 05-23-2011 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by MikeyFIN (Post 3410567)
Iīve seen them on bad reps case... all I can say is someone runs with stolen money...is it worthwhile to go the length in court in US as the legal system work there nowadays, no as itīs total lottery IMO. So thatīs how daredevil gets away with all this. The first one I know who got stiffled shot himself... the next one had to pay the whole entrant fees of one season to just race one race....can we blame all on one guy ... nope but canīt let him go like nothing happened either...

WWWWHHHHHAAAAAAAATTTTTT ??

This is too much now ..i would sucsest u stop your lies Mika. Michael was a long time friend of mine and he shot himself because of his wife. Then Gino was never promissed a race he payed to be partner in a company he wanted !
U need to stop NOW !
I never did you wrong bro, i dont know how much Gino or Petri offered you to post this BS..but that is what this is ! BS..and nothing more !

DareDevil 05-23-2011 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by MikeyFIN (Post 3410571)
My nose despite being broken in boxing twice still has itīs senses left... and being in the restaurant and import biz I can tell crap from proper...

Didn't you tell me you where in the trasnsport business ?? Now your a boxer and restaurant worker...HAHAHAHA
TOO FUNNY !:lolhit::party-smiley-004::eek::grinser010:

and some realy believe you ??????? damn...atleast i know the real truth to all these lies !

Interceptor 05-23-2011 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by MikeyFIN (Post 3410571)
My nose despite being broken in boxing twice still has itīs senses left... and being in the restaurant and import biz I can tell crap from proper...

Anything you haven't done ?

THRILLSEEKER 05-23-2011 06:19 PM


Originally Posted by Interceptor (Post 3410675)
Anything you haven't done ?

:lolhit:

OldSchool 05-23-2011 07:29 PM


Originally Posted by Interceptor (Post 3410675)
Anything you haven't done ?

There is a list somewhere. :D:drink::evilb:

Skullkrusher 05-24-2011 07:00 AM

You guys keep whining about not taking him to court because of the process but if you actually read the contrtact it calls for mediation and then binding arbitration. Mediation, when both sides won't move, takes about an hour. Arbitration would take 3-4 hours. So, if your case is as good as you think, you could have a judgement in your favor relatively quickly. Collecting would be the only hard part but a judgement in Florida is good for twenty years, so you could make his life and credit a little more miserable.


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