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bad reputation 05-15-2011 11:17 AM

Scammed by US Raceteam! Help!
 
Scammed by US raceteam!

An open letter to all organizers and raceteams, there is one small team in US that contracts European and Domestic drivers and after done payment starts conflicts and breaches contracts just to cancel the racing and keep the money, and then still races with other paying drivers!
We are a few racers that dreamed of racing in those great events of OPA and SBI and also the believing that the offshorepowerboatracing still is a gentlemansport, where trust and honour are keywords just like many other mainly self sponsored motorsports.
But now there is a one person team around that took advantage in that and contracted drivers for racing and then surprisingly finds angles to start arguing, just to get “reasons” to keep the paid money as a profit, and stopping our efforts to race in the USA.
That’s the lowest possible way of fraud, becuse this person presentents a fraudulent package in the name of such serious raceorganisers as OPA and SBI, takes advantage of the fine reputation of those organisations to convince people to join his team and send money for registration fees etc even on top of the agreed and paid for ones, just to give one example of his antics...
All of this above is not to be connected or blaimed with serious raceteams and people around.
We want this to be known and him stopped so others don’t get robbed from their dreams and money.
For all other serious raceteams out there feel free to contact us because We still have interest and dreams in racing in Worlds greatest events!
Note that We are open to discussion, are bringing our own sponsors and funds onboard for a serious raceteam or even be part of forming one together.
Note that we are three individual persons that didn’t knew each other before we got betrayed and bestolen of our money from this criminal.

Gino Passchier Belgium/Florida. World Speed record holder, P1 racer.
Petri Nagy. Sweden. Dragracer (cars) Swedish champion and record holder.
Mika Tamminen. Finland. Racer in cars and boats.

As it was written on a Competitive and Prideful Team “United we Race” we will do that only if we all help to keep our sport clean and sportmanship so the world would be a righteous and better place to be in.

firehawkcat 05-15-2011 06:47 PM

Good luck hopefully you will find the scamer and get your $$$ back

PhantomChaos 05-15-2011 07:27 PM


Originally Posted by bad reputation (Post 3403516)
Scammed by US raceteam!

An open letter to all organizers and raceteams, there is one small team in US that contracts European and Domestic drivers and after done payment starts conflicts and breaches contracts just to cancel the racing and keep the money, and then still races with other paying drivers!
We are a few racers that dreamed of racing in those great events of OPA and SBI and also the believing that the offshorepowerboatracing still is a gentlemansport, where trust and honour are keywords just like many other mainly self sponsored motorsports.
But now there is a one person team around that took advantage in that and contracted drivers for racing and then surprisingly finds angles to start arguing, just to get “reasons” to keep the paid money as a profit, and stopping our efforts to race in the USA.
That’s the lowest possible way of fraud, becuse this person presentents a fraudulent package in the name of such serious raceorganisers as OPA and SBI, takes advantage of the fine reputation of those organisations to convince people to join his team and send money for registration fees etc even on top of the agreed and paid for ones, just to give one example of his antics...
All of this above is not to be connected or blaimed with serious raceteams and people around.
We want this to be known and him stopped so others don’t get robbed from their dreams and money.
For all other serious raceteams out there feel free to contact us because We still have interest and dreams in racing in Worlds greatest events!
Note that We are open to discussion, are bringing our own sponsors and funds onboard for a serious raceteam or even be part of forming one together.
Note that we are three individual persons that didn’t knew each other before we got betrayed and bestolen of our money from this criminal.

Gino Passchier Belgium/Florida. World Speed record holder, P1 racer.
Petri Nagy. Sweden. Dragracer (cars) Swedish champion and record holder.
Mika Tamminen. Finland. Racer in cars and boats.

As it was written on a Competitive and Prideful Team “United we Race” we will do that only if we all help to keep our sport clean and sportmanship so the world would be a righteous and better place to be in.


That's all great and stuff but what is this person's name? That might help!!!!! :drink:

Lauderdaleboats 05-15-2011 08:27 PM

Red, White & Blue boat?

Catastrophe 05-15-2011 08:34 PM


Originally Posted by PhantomChaos (Post 3403816)
That's all great and stuff but what is this person's name? That might help!!!!! :drink:

Good point. WTF kind of a complaint is that, with no name ???

GTOFFSHORE 05-15-2011 08:39 PM


Originally Posted by Lauderdaleboats (Post 3403887)
Red, White & Blue boat?

Yeah that was the first person to come my mind.

Catastrophe 05-15-2011 09:17 PM

Wasnt someone just recently looking for a driver on GD ??

PARADISE ISLAND 05-15-2011 09:34 PM

Mention who the USA race team it is and maybe someone on here can help?:op:

mike tkach 05-15-2011 11:00 PM

first post,did we join oso for agenda,to complain about someone,and not say who?welcome aboard,now spill the beans,who are you talking about?:party-smiley-004:

fortwo 05-16-2011 12:10 AM

he aint a Daredevil, he is a ScammDevil

Dont think this needs a name dudes .. yeah red - white & blue
let me guess ... P4 :lolhit: wonder why OPA & SBI still takes his entry fees as they know it's stolen money. Carbonell doest give a damn i guess ... such a shame.

CigDaze 05-16-2011 06:53 AM


Originally Posted by Lauderdaleboats (Post 3403887)
Red, White & Blue boat?

From Sarasota, perhaps? Just guessing. :eek:

Airpacker 05-16-2011 07:05 AM


Originally Posted by Lauderdaleboats (Post 3403887)
Red, White & Blue boat?

Ya think????????? :evilb:

rchevelle71 05-16-2011 07:14 AM


Originally Posted by Lauderdaleboats (Post 3403887)
Red, White & Blue boat?

:lolhit:I am staying out of this one Chris, but I think that is who they are referring to:lolhit:

offshoredrillin 05-16-2011 07:18 AM

Oh jeeeeez...didn't i warn everyone a few years ago when i caught this same person selling parts that he didn't own?

fortwo 05-16-2011 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by CigDaze (Post 3404052)
From Sarasota, perhaps? Just guessing. :eek:


Bradenton to be excact .. where they dont have dentists and hairdressers.

CigDaze 05-16-2011 07:55 AM


Originally Posted by fortwo (Post 3404083)
Bradenton to be excact...

Ahhh yes. Of course, Bradenton. My bad.


Originally Posted by fortwo (Post 3404083)
where they dont have dentists and hairdressers.

That's why he is sometimes affectionately referred to as Dirtdevil.

PARADISE ISLAND 05-16-2011 08:17 AM

:evilb:If you search around there are pictures of him on here at least give them a target:evilb:

bad reputation 05-16-2011 08:48 AM

It is so embarasing for us that we even got involved with such a criminal minded person. We just love boating and offshoreracing and who could imagine that you should get stolen of your paid racingfees etc! And i had in mind to join up for the New York race also, would be wery proud to be able to honour the 9-11 victims! If i hade payed that fee also, he had probably scammed that to, well if that aint shamless i dont know what is! And Gino who got bestolen 8000usd and he would also be happy to join there and he also is a Firefighter in Belgium, who would have loved to honour his collegues! This is a sad story for all of us powerboating people.

DareDevil 05-16-2011 10:05 AM

THIS IS FUNNY !!!!! :lolhit:

To Petri and Gino, get your storys straight and stop your lies !

We have a contract and i kept my side of the agreement ..YOU GUYS DON'T !


BTW, if you feel soooooo scammed, SUE ME ! and put your money where your mouth is for once in your life !

SpeedGirl 05-16-2011 10:13 AM

bad reputation....

In order to post a beware issue in this section, PROOF will need to be posted. You must post all the information, contracts, documents, photos, and/or legal papers etc. to back up your claim.

If this is not done in the next 24 hours this thread will be closed until the information is provided.

CigDaze 05-16-2011 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by bad reputation (Post 3404134)
It is so embarasing for us that we even got involved with such a criminal minded person. We just love boating and offshoreracing and who could imagine that you should get stolen of your paid racingfees etc! And i had in mind to join up for the New York race also, would be wery proud to be able to honour the 9-11 victims! If i hade payed that fee also, he had probably scammed that to, well if that aint shamless i dont know what is! And Gino who got bestolen 8000usd and he would also be happy to join there and he also is a Firefighter in Belgium, who would have loved to honour his collegues! This is a sad story for all of us powerboating people.

Post the name and proof! Why leave us guessing?

bad reputation 05-16-2011 10:32 AM

speed girl
 
We are several people who have experienced the same fraud so this is a matter of sportmanship or not. I have not posted any names i just wanted feedback, and check if there is some general rules against this kind of behaviour. Or if this forum had som kind of advise upon it. Where else to post it but here?
The proof is the contracts and done payments etc. Which we can show amongst the emails and agrements made.

DareDevil 05-16-2011 10:41 AM

not even worth comenting anymore, lets go !

MikeyFIN 05-16-2011 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by Lauderdaleboats (Post 3403887)
Red, White & Blue boat?

correct a single chevy powered 32 Aero-Tek... I'll fill on the details later gotta celebrate our
world championship in hockey... no german thing...:grinser010:

GRH 05-16-2011 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by SpeedGirl (Post 3404228)
bad reputation....

In order to post a beware issue in this section, PROOF will need to be posted. You must post all the information, contracts, documents, photos, and/or legal papers etc. to back up your claim.

If this is not done in the next 24 hours this thread will be closed until the information is provided.

You seem to be singling this guy out? I've read many threads in this section where no proof was ever posted?

SpeedGirl 05-16-2011 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by GRH (Post 3404344)
You seem to be singling this guy out? I've read many threads in this section where no proof was ever posted?

Because of all the he said she said threads a rule was made earlier in the year that facts are needed to be able to post in this forum.... We will not go back and edit posts or threads, this rule was make with ALL of your best interests in mind!

DareDevil 05-16-2011 01:06 PM


Originally Posted by MikeyFIN (Post 3404328)
correct a single chevy powered 32 Aero-Tek... I'll fill on the details later gotta celebrate our
world championship in hockey... no german thing...:grinser010:

I would love to hear what you have to do with all this ???!!!!

OH, and where/how i suposeley screwed you !!!

GRH 05-16-2011 01:12 PM


Originally Posted by SpeedGirl (Post 3404374)
Because of all the he said she said threads a rule was made earlier in the year that facts are needed to be able to post in this forum.... We will not go back and edit posts or threads, this rule was make with ALL of your best interests in mind!

Good rule.... got it!

bad reputation 05-16-2011 01:34 PM

Speedgirl
 
As i wrote before i can post my evidence here if you want or i can PM you just let me know. I thought that this thread was to warn and learn others, and to keep the sport clean from things like this. I still havent posted his name and that have never been my intention. So just tell me how you want me to handle this.

CigDaze 05-16-2011 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by bad reputation (Post 3404403)
As i wrote before i can post my evidence here if you want or i can PM you just let me know. I thought that , and to keep the sport clean from things like this. I still havent posted his name and that have never been my intention. So just tell me how you want me to handle this.

Yes. You're right. "this thread [section] was to warn and learn others."

And we certainly appreciate the warning, but it's not much of a warning if we don't know who you're talking about.

If you have sufficient proof then post it already along with their names. That we don't have to guess.

:cool:

picklenjim 05-16-2011 03:01 PM

Right from the horses mouth.
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gi...9365934&v=wall

FIXX 05-16-2011 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by CigDaze (Post 3404406)
Yes. You're right. "this thread [section] was to warn and learn others."

And we certainly appreciate the warning, but it's not much of a warning if we don't know who you're talking about.

If you have sufficient proof then post it already along with their names. That we don't have to guess.

:cool:

Scott Rutherford

offshoredrillin 05-16-2011 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by picklenjim (Post 3404499)

omfg...bwahahahahahahahahahahaha:Score-101010:

DareDevil 05-16-2011 03:19 PM


Originally Posted by mrfixxall (Post 3404514)
Scott Rutherford

Yep, they are talking about me. BUT WHERE IS THE PROOF THAT I SCAMMED THEM ????

This again shows that if somebody messes up and they dont know what to do now that they blame it on the other guy !

FUNNY...

CigDaze 05-16-2011 03:20 PM


Originally Posted by mrfixxall (Post 3404514)
Scott Rutherford

Thanks. I'm well aware of who the culprit is, but we're still waiting for the accuser to formally deliver the name of the accused. That's how this section is supposed to work. Not a guessing game.
:D :)

FIXX 05-16-2011 03:32 PM

Fixx
 

Originally Posted by CigDaze (Post 3404523)
Thanks. I'm well aware of who the culprit is, but we're still waiting for the accuser to formally deliver the name of the accused. That's how this section is supposed to work. Not a guessing game.
:D :)

i believe i met him years ago,,i think he was the rigger for catcando boat, it was about 3 am and he was giving a girl a ride home on a scooter before he hit the center median on us41 north bound in sarasota. i never laughed so hard watching those 2 go over the handle bars..

getchasum111 05-16-2011 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by picklenjim (Post 3404499)

damn....now that's some funny chip right there

bad reputation 05-16-2011 03:57 PM

Action
 
Can someone give advise how to handle a situation like this, should it be reported to the raceorganisators such as OPA and SBI? And is it realy there responsability to take action? What do you think?

FullAuto9 05-16-2011 04:18 PM


Originally Posted by picklenjim (Post 3404499)

Holy smoke! I wonder if he put that there trying to be funny or if his account has been hacked???

FIXX 05-16-2011 04:19 PM

Fixx
 

Originally Posted by bad reputation (Post 3404566)
Can someone give advise how to handle a situation like this, should it be reported to the raceorganisators such as OPA and SBI? And is it realy there responsability to take action? What do you think?

you buy a plane ticket and have all the papers in hand and go to the race you sponsored...get the authorities involved on the spot...seems this will have to be handled in the state it occurred in..


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