Ok ill say this and leave it at that. once again Jeff M is a piece of crap, a career criminal that will blame anyone to try to get a lighter sentence for himself. I know quite a few of the people involved, and quite a few of them are victims their-selves as certain DA's are tying things together that aren't and shouldn't be tied together. Slonaker is and always will be a total douche-bag. he reporting on this is restating opinions facts with his own slant to make himself credible, well that isn't happening. His "reports" and his personal opinions especially the ones of claiming Angelo's accident and death are anything more than an accident are ridiculous. If you believe that you are foolish, more foolish than Murray because he was the one bragging countrywide that he could make things disappear. Will people plead out? YES they will because it reaches a point that you have to say enough, the gov will carry it on forever, simply because they can. not only that the gov will accept those pleads as it gives them a semi win in their column. Did my friends do something wrong? that's up for them to say, but too many are trying to lump people together to make it seem pretty and convenient, it isn't... people on here want to ostracize those involved but yet most on here would report a drive failure as an insurance claim if it saved them money, don't friggin lie because there are threads here to prove it.

Remember this, for a crime to take place it needs many accomplices, it starts with the thought, then the action, then the finale', cogs in a wheel so to speak. so before you self righteous A holes condemn anyone or cast stones better make sure your own glass house is spotless or without sin.

Me personally, if I was FALSELY accused of ANYTHING, I would defend myself to the end, no plea deal for me. Why, because that's what my parents taught me, and with a DOD clearance, I CAN'T get in any legal trouble. I don't buy into the "Innocent Victims" crap, if you didn't ANYTHING WRONG, and you can prove it, why plea out?

Rob
You and I agree on 99% of the topics out there but respectfully I have to disagree on this one.
People on here have been discovered participating in a multi year boat / parts theft ring. Multi year !!
When you read one of the current threads on here where people cant imagine affording this hobby , including the insurance costs it doesnt give anyone a feeling of comfort that they are dealing with or communicating on here with anyone that is out there stealing sh it.
There are at least 25 threads on here where people have *****ed about props not being returned,used parts being used in rebuilds , poker run costs being exorbitant, falsifying boat ownership etc etc .
The people involved in those lesser topics have been vilified.
This subject is much more serious.
There is no way anyone on here can afford what has been discovered to continue.
Comparing a multi year multi boat theft ring to a false drive repair equates to comparing burning down a church to parking in a handicap parking spot.
But I completely understand your point about casting stones.
Respectfully.

From someone who has had their house broken into, work truck stolen and broken into no less then 8 times (in good areas and bad ones) and never got crap from the insurance company except for maybe a replacement broken window I have never ever thought about committing insurance fraud. So my glass house is fine.
And I am going to say again, if you were connected to this you should burn. Also if OSO knows who they are they need to send them packing before they do it to their members again.

I'm no lawyer but if the guy that ratted for the 50k reward also helped steal the boatMaybe a few got dragged in not knowing it was a huge theft ring??For parts or what ever I know they should have not went for the hook but set up possible from day 1??Again if they did it fug um but if not thats a horrible thing to do if your a registered informant??AKA the boat mover who makes things vanish

Jumping in late here but I really like the article.

Finally got to read the article, I will comment on "Jeff", he wants to criticize people with multiple DWI's saying they have a problem and will hurt someone, yet basically brags about his night trips to bring in Cocaine and Pot.......That didnt hurt anyone? Was he just trying to cure glacoma? WTF?

Sent mine to afgahnistan

Have one on the way Pete.

Cardshark threads provide an indirect means of communicating with the likes of Ben Kramer, likely avid reader of these threads. We can ask him questions like, should these future cell mates stock up on condom dispensing fanny packs? Zipper or quick-access Velcro?