Beware endeavour32
 

Please read swap shop post 1050 Dominator Marine Carb $600. One year old Dominator 1050 marine carb model number 0-80340-1 .
It's in great shape. These are $1265 new at summit. $600 and its yours!
This carburetor has a build date 1188 which per Holley is built 1988,1998,and possibly 2008. It is not one year old as ad stated. Unable to resolve I started discussing my experience on his swap shop post he then sent me email offering to take it back if I deleted my post but I would have to pay back freight he paid for shipping to me and at my expense back to him then he would refund balance after he got carburetor in his possession. After I would not agree to his offer for I did not misrepresent the item he started attacking my character and demanding I do certain things THEN CLOSED POST. Please read the post for he agrees stamped build date 1188 and changes his story to one year of use. He offered to give me the guys name he got it from so I could talk to him Why???? I bought from endeavour32.
Speedgirl I think the post explains how I did not get what I paid for and seller is unwilling to make me whole. I also have email communications to further back up my beware. I will be happy to post photo of build date and email communications at your request.

your beef is just the age ? Or is it thrashed?

It is not what I purchased. It was an easy fix just return my money. Does it look older than a year yes. I never mentioned the accelerator pump arm being bent which is an easy fix and if only a year old as posted would have never addressed this discrepancy with seller. Over the last 35 years I have enjoyed owning, poker runs, racing offshore boats and people with the same passion. What if I were a young guy excited about riding and upgrading my offshore boat on a budget purchased an advertised 1 year old engine that when it gets to me I find out is 8 or more years old runs but is wore out. Now I am not enjoying this wonderful sport since I did not get what I bought and the seller will not return my money so I can purchase another motor.

Could it be that the carb body was cast in 2008 and wasn't purchased by the PO until a year or so ago?
To me, condition would trump production date as long as the part didn't change design over the years.
That said,
if I was the seller, I'd just refund you and have you send it back. Why make a brother keep something that doesn't meet his expectations?

post a couple pics of the carb.

So nothing wrong other than build date? Wow

we're not talking a few months or even a year here, were talking 19 years old if a 98 build. That's a huge discrepancy. Certainly worth a refund if the buyer wants it. Can I sell my 10-20 year old boat as 1 year old then say well the bottom design is the same and its really clean? The seller screwed up by specifically stating it was a 1 year old carb when he didn't know. I know you wouldn't do that to someone then not offer a full refund.

I don't know if a production date would be that big of a deal with me. The dominator is not a common carb now a days. They may only produce those body's once every 5 years.

I bought a set of props from him and they are perfect.

i will just keep my thoughts about this to my self because the last time i spoke the truth about it i got a time out for a week but i will say that some people will say anything to sell things and i won,t buy anything from people who lie to make a sale.with the swap shop i guess it is buyer beware these days.

i disagree,the dominator carb is used more now a days then ever before and in the last 8 or so years their have been many revisions so to me the production date is very important.

Especially if they are really the newer model Holley Marine Dominators. The relatively new Holley Marine Dominator carbs have their own set of specs for the idle circuits and they are also USCG approved. Best carbs I have ever owned. We can idle at 500 RPM in gear even with a fairly aggressive valve train.

If you sell a Carb and state it is 1 year old , and it turns out to be from 1988. No amount of excuses justifies not giving a refund.

My boats a 1986 but it doesn`t get used 9 months out of the year and at one point it was down for a couple years for rebuilt.. so can I sell it as a 2006 ? :stooges:

You probably could with how good that interior looks!

sorry for the derail.
 

Well l thank you!!
I like you, you`re very smart , we should be best friends forever!!
Anyone looking for a 2006 Flat Deck? :drink:

Now how many boats have we seen for sale listed as 1987/2016 because the guy replaced 3 gauges, added a couple vinyl stripes, and added 16 monster stickers to the dash???

1957 / 2017 Brand New Used one year :)

http://images.hngn.com/data/images/f...nner.jpg?w=650

A little too early in the AM for me to see SB's post/pic above. I threw up a little in my mouth.........

Agree with most above, If you say it is a yr old, it should be a year old. For those who say production date shouldnt be an issue, you didnt buy it, and you have no idea what the buyers criteria for the purchase was.

This issue has been cut and dry to me from when it was first discussed in the swap shop. Seller owes full refund plus paying for the return shipping. His excuses to date for not doing so have been laughable.

and yet some oso members won,t heed the warning and still buy from him,i just don,t get it.

I bought some heads from him a couple years ago. Was told they were "very low hour" take offs (literally told me 45 mins to an hour run time). When I got them, it was obvious that they had way more run time on them. Way more. After questioning him, he said he would have to contact the previous owner of these heads to get me any more info. Turns out they were "very old heads" that had "new" valves, guides, springs, etc installed with 45 mins to an hour run time on them. I ended up having them completely rebuilt as the "new" parts that were installed were questionable at best. Guy wouldn't even respond when I asked for a refund, and offered to pay all shipping costs.

Not only that but I'd say the cost also. Is a 19 year old carb worth what the buyer paid for a 1 year old carb? I wouldn't even be interested in buying a carb that old.

SB I just now recovered from your post����.. now that is someone that got screwed on the refurbish lol.

What's up with the question marks!!!! My laughing mojies failed to appear

OSO 2007/2017 One year used.

Here is the scoop on the carb.

I had a Quick Fuel Q-950 for sale. There was a guy looking to trade his dom for a 950 or 1050, 4150. I had the Q-950 for sale for a while and wasn't getting a lot of action on it. So I thought I could possibly sell the Dom easier and help out the guy with what he wanted. Win-win.

I was told the carb was a year old, as in it was used for a year and that nothing was wrong with it, just too big for his engine. So I did the swap with him. When I got it, I looked it over, pulled the bowl and inspected it. Made sure the model number was current, and listed it. If anyone has ever looked at a build date on a carb, they make no sense. It wasn't until Viper complained that I learned how to somewhat read them.

Moving on, I sold the carb to Viper, after he got it he claimed it was an 88 and was a piece of junk, and it wasn't at all current and way different than a new model. I offered to take it back, but was not going to eat the shipping. He refused, he wanted 100% of his money back. I called Holley, they said it is 100% current and there is zero different between what was sold to him and a new one.

Recently I saw a Merc 900SC set up for sale, it was a 99 and it had dominators on it and the air bleeds were not removable and it had the old riased lip venturis. This was a 99, so how could the carb I sold him be an '88 as claimed, or even a 98? That left a 2008. If it was used for a year, who cares when the build date was, it's the current issue carb. Now I see he is claiming the accelerator pump arm is bent. This is the first I've heard of this.

Now lets continue. Viper goes to sell it. In his description, he says that he bought the carb from me, that he got screwed, and the carb is junk! Yes, this was his description, and he wonders why nobody has offered to buy it? Come on! I will say, there is nothing wrong with it, and it is completely fine. I have nothing else to say on this issue.

Are you Joe?

I was clear when I sold them, that I had bought them used and then decided they were too big for my 454s. I was told the engine was completely rebuilt and that the heads had practically no run time. That ad is long gone, or you could read it yourself, as in the original sellers ad. I was told that his head guy completely went though them and they were fine other than one set needing 3 new valves. If you buy something used and then resell it, all you can do is rely on the info you were given. I don't know which set you bought, but if you are Joe then you got the heads that I had the new valves put in. I know that set was 100% perfect because I had that set at the shop.

Your digging a bigger hole for your self. I do not recall my ad stating it was junk!!!! Looks like I will need to post our pm and email communications to keep this post factual. I have been nothing but professional and
non insulting. The bent arm has been insignificant so not mentioned.

No insults here. There were several members that said if you wanted to sell your carb, that maybe you should change your condescending ad. Those were not my words, I don't think I ever commented on your ad. The actual words "junk" were not typed, but our ad was quite terrible if you are trying to sell something. Anyone reading it would take it as such. Continue on, I am done here.

For the record, if you would have been willing to pay for the shipping, you would have had your money back long ago.

You might possibly want to read your last paragraph on your 8:33 pm post today. I will start posting our emails and let readers decide. You keep telling me your done but I am not. I live in Houston and watching so many wonderful people doing incredible nice things for no other reason than it's the right thing.

So viper wouldn't send it back unless endeavor paid the freight but endeavor wouldn't refund the money unless viper paid the freight.

Putting all the other issues aside, you guys are now arguing about the freight. What's the cost of the frieght? Surely you can agree on something, maybe 50/50? Just a thought so you can put this transaction out of it's misery.

I enjoy these warning threads when the two relevant parties are posting so keep going if you wish, I'll just look on and smile from a distance. :D

RR

Hello RR hope all is well abroad. It's really not about the freight anymore but more about my purchase experience with this seller. It's about doing the right thing for the right reason. What if this was a large misrepresented purchase. Enjoy and safe boating

A 12.5 x12.5 x6 usps priority mail flat rate box is $11.95

Are you guys really arguing about $12 bucks? My lunch cost more than that.......

$11.95 is costing Endeavour how much in future sales??

$11.95 is costing Viper $588.05

Is being right worth that much? Have either of you been married???

I know the money won't break either one of you and it's more about principles but your point has been made, there's been a rebuttal and it's all on record. If it were me, I'd be trying to wind it up. (without prejudice)

All is well here, thank you for your thoughts. :) I do like my daily OSO fix, helps keep in touch with the bigger boating world, rebuilds, good questions, dumb questions, photos, newbies, racing, bickering, new boats, monster hp etc, etc. Gotta love it!

RR

I see a pattern developing where people make whatever claims they want when selling something then later when it's found to be false blaming it on the person that owned it before them. 90viper didn't buy it from the guy you bought it from, he bought it from you and you misrepresented it. Doesn't make any difference if it was accidental or intentional. You made the statement and the statement was wrong and this guy doesn't want the 10 or 20 year old carb that you claimed was only a year old. Refund the money and relist it with the more accurate description of you don't know what the f+ck it is. Why should 90viper be out any money at all because of dealings you had with someone else over this carb?

This x1000.

Thats because the economy, the market and non-reality tv has created more flippers than a pod of dolphins....

There were pictures of the carb, the was model number listed, and there was nothing wrong with it. I did not state a build date, I was not asked what the build date was. If that fact was so important it should have been asked. This was not sold as new, and it was less than half the price of a new carb. $550 shipped for a lightly used Dominator was a good deal. I covered the shipping ($20 fed ex) when asked to do so, with the sale. I laugh at guys posting "I would never use a carb that old" Why? Seems classic cars with 100 year old carbs run just fine. I don't see people running to replace their holley carbs on their classic muscle cars. If anything they go to great lengths to keep them. Either way, this isn't an old carb that is out dated.

If I buy a carb and go to sell it, or anything else for that matter, it's not my job to become an expert in that item. I will list it, and to the best of my ability, describe it as accurately as possible. Where is it the responsibility of the buyer, to ask the correct questions or any questions in this case? There are countless things I have bought, that have had issues that needed to be fixed. Did the prior owner know about them? Maybe, maybe not, that's the gamble you take when buying something used.

With the heads that were sold and seem to have been not as claimed. Was I to take them to a shop have them disassembled to verify what I was told was true? Typically if there is an issue with something I sell, I will take it back, but I'm not paying for shipping both ways. Almost no brick and mortar stores operate like that, and neither do I. Once again, there was not one question asked about that carb.

I'll use the last two purchases I made for my boat. My engines and the boat it self. The was was advertised as solid no rot. Yet two of the bulkheads in the cabin need to be replaced due to rot, all of the tabbing on the bulk heads in the cabin are pulled from the hull sides, and it appears the transom is rotten, which the prior owner clearly knew about. However, I inspected the boat, found one rotten bulk head, and suspected the transom was bad prior to buying the boat. Did I come on here, ranting and raving about how I want a refund, how the boat was misrepresented and then keep posting about it like a little baby? No, I'll fix it, and in the end have a great boat.

My new engines. They cost a way more than the boat, and way more than that carb. Are they as described, so far they seem to be, but if I waned to be a cry baby, I could complain about how the powder coating is bubbling on the valve covers, on one of the engines. Or the fact that they were shipped with oil in them and that one of them leaked oil and I may be getting charged for the clean up. I could start a post and complain about all of this, but I'm not. The engines are used, not new, and due to that fact they will not be perfect. There maybe a sensor that needs to be replaced, or an injector, maybe the intercoolers need new cores. Who knows until it's inspected and tested, of which the prior owner did not do, nor did I request. If I open it up and find an eagle crank instead of a Crower crank is it his fault? NO, he wasn't the original owner. Eickert used top shelf parts in his engine and that is what I am is expecting is there, but that doesn't mean that is what is there. It's a gamble, or I could have just forked over $100k and bought new engines and been guaranteed what is there. Point of the story is used is used, the price is cheaper, but that cheaper price comes with a set of unknowns and risks. If you are unwilling to accept those risks, then buy new. End of story.

I have a set of #5 drives on the way, they were sold as completely rebuilt with zero hours, and transmissions modified to handle 1000 hp. When I get them and inspect them am I going to find something I don't like about the drives, trannies, boxes, steering. You bet i will, I asked about 50 questions, multiples requests for receipts, pictures, etc. Now I could have spent again, $100k on new #6 drives, or saved a ton like I did and bought used. Now if I get them and they are worn out and sloppy, or just stock velvet drives will I do something legally, yes. Otherwise, I know I'll find something wrong. Did I ask what year they were made? No, because I could careless, and if I make a big deal out of something that I never asked in the first place then that is my problem.

There is a shop in Milwaukee I like to go, to to get parts. The name is Kendor Marine. It doesn't matter what you buy, there are no refunds, other than store credit. This is on all items. Yet, somehow, on a used item, I'm to not only refund for any reason, but also eat all the shipping costs, so on this deal I'm expected to eat $40. I'm not eating all the costs, because a buyer didn't ask any questions on an item and then decides he wants to return it, then claims it's 30 years old because it's stamped 1188l. So he too, doesn't know how to read the date stamp on the side of the carb, because that 88 does not mean 1988.

I have a set of 420 engines I just sold. I didn't like the way the heads looked on one engines so I pulled both and had them completely gone though and rebuilt. I could have left them as is, if I was a crook, but I'm not.

I've sold probably 200+ things on here over the years, 99% of those sales have resulted in happy customers. In fact I found out about this post from a happy customer telling me I was getting roasted on here over something I sold. Quite a few guys I've become friends with on here, were first buyers of something I sold. You know what, if out of 200 items, I have a few people that complain, so be it. If their buddies want to hop in and pile on, go for it. I'm an honest seller, list accurately, and did offer a refund in this case. Will Viper get a refund from me, absolutely not, not after all of this. So keep posting if it makes you feel better, the item you bought from me was not only a good deal, but also a good carb.

bottom line,add said 1 YEAR OLD CARB.is this a true statement?NO IT IS NOT.that is the problem and no words can change that.viper could care less about anything ever sold to anybody else,he only is concerned about this sale.pretty simple for most to understand! for the record,i do not know viper and before he got lied to about this carb i never heard of him but right is right and wrong is wrong.

Bottom line- it was used for 1 year, as in last year. It was a year old. Carbs are not boat or cars so don't even start in on how a 88 boat is not a 2016. Tread lightly Mike, there are a host of people ready to come after you on shady dealings. One of which sent you a text which I was copied on a few weeks ago. So don't go around puffing your chest acting like Mr. Honest Seller, because this carb deal is nothing to your deals!

BOTTOM LINE,ADD SAID ONE YEAR OLD CARB,IT DID NOT SAY USED FOR ONE YEAR SO YOU DID MISREPRESENT.AND IF I WERE YOU I WOULD NOT START ANY LIES ABOUT MY DEALINGS,IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING FACTUIAL,POST IT,IF NOT YOU NEED TO BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU SAY!i do not do shady deals,never did and never will,yes mike i am honest and i will be more than glad to post up the names of people i have delt with that will back up my honesty.i am not suprised that you would try to make me look dishonest but you are barking up the wrong tree,your attempt to make me look like the bad guy will not change the way you are viewed around here.

mike,please post the text you are talking about,i got no such text so i have no idea what you are talking about so bring it.