Why are lifeline Performance jackets NON USCG approved??
#11
And for everyones info lifeline is not the only jacket builder that has a zipper and legstraps, I fished in the BASS tour for years, and both my jackets had zippers and leg straps and were designed for 100mph use, I sold them about 10 years ago, I really wish I could remember what brand they were, they were USCG approved and both were blue and silver, hell they would have matched my boat...

In Tres course they recommended you carry one of the prepackaged pacs of the cheap orange jackets to be legal.
#12
I have had some like these as well. Only the straps and buckles are rated for 100mph. The jacket never has to be tested to stay on a person to get certified for a mph for the USCG. These may be better than a regular ski jacket but they are not a lifeline.
In Tres course they recommended you carry one of the prepackaged pacs of the cheap orange jackets to be legal.
In Tres course they recommended you carry one of the prepackaged pacs of the cheap orange jackets to be legal.
The U.S. Coast Guard standard is a very old prescriptive requirement for compliance. So old in fact in 1986 this safety circular was issued:
http://www.uscgboating.org/assets/pd...C80.pdf#100mph
Unlike CE certifications the US Coast Guard does not presently accept probabilistic analysis and alternative arrangements with performance based criteria to verify minimum compliance or to show how a product actually exceeds the requirement even though it does not meet the specifications of the perspective rule.
Therefore far superior products such as LifeLines and not able to receive certification. Time to don is not a problem as they could receive TYPE V approval. The problem is that we custom fit the jackets and offer custom colors arrangements and logos etc.
Bottom line is do not accept the label on the item as insurance or verification the product will perform as you may have believed it would.
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Unlike CE certifications the US Coast Guard does not presently accept probabilistic analysis and alternative arrangements with performance based criteria to verify minimum compliance or to show how a product actually exceeds the requirement even though it does not meet the specifications of the perspective rule.
Therefore far superior products such as LifeLines and not able to receive certification. Time to don is not a problem as they could receive TYPE V approval. The problem is that we custom fit the jackets and offer custom colors arrangements and logos etc.
Bottom line is do not accept the label on the item as insurance or verification the product will perform as you may have believed it would.
Therefore far superior products such as LifeLines and not able to receive certification. Time to don is not a problem as they could receive TYPE V approval. The problem is that we custom fit the jackets and offer custom colors arrangements and logos etc.
Bottom line is do not accept the label on the item as insurance or verification the product will perform as you may have believed it would.
PS, my post is not meant to belittle LifeLine, I'd seriously like to know and possibly others too. As the old saying goes; just cause someone says it's so, doesn't necessarily mean it is. Which is evidence by some of the reading I've been doing on the forums lately...
#15
From what i understand another issue is that it takes to long to put on a Lifeline, you have the zipper,the leg straps,plus chest straps.
The ones that are certified usually have chest straps, I have been pulled over while wearing the lifelines and there was not an issue, but if you have them stored they probably won't count.
i also keep "legal" vests stored but wouldn't want to trust my life to one of them.
The ones that are certified usually have chest straps, I have been pulled over while wearing the lifelines and there was not an issue, but if you have them stored they probably won't count.
i also keep "legal" vests stored but wouldn't want to trust my life to one of them.
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Have lifeline jackets been independently tested and/or certified to show their safety relevance?
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...eze-frame.html
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that's what i've been told
if i order one for me they would have to make a few more and send to USCG for certification then send me mine.
if you are boating in NY waters now til may 1 st you need to have a USCG approved PFD on when onboard. that law just went in to effect jan 1st
from nov 1 to may 1 everyone onboard has to have one on
if i order one for me they would have to make a few more and send to USCG for certification then send me mine.
if you are boating in NY waters now til may 1 st you need to have a USCG approved PFD on when onboard. that law just went in to effect jan 1st
from nov 1 to may 1 everyone onboard has to have one on
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I guess its the same on "land", for years I had "Pro Street" cars, the last one was a low 8 second 71 Camaro, it was street driven and I was pulled over [OFTEN] and given the "once over" and the one thing I got A LOT of hassles about was the seat belts, I thought it was assisnine that I could race at a track at 170MPH with 5 point, 3 inch wide belts holding me in the car, but, these same harnesses weren't street legal? I guess it was "safer" to be driving around with 40 year old OEM sun faded Lap Belts? Which, Unlike the racing harnesses had to be checked and recerted every 3 years!
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Yep had tha same issue with 5 Point race harnesses on the street.
As for the post on NY having mandatory life jacket laws. I think its a good thing.
I have seen WAYYY to many people Getting sauced and then getting into a boat in LI as well as in CT and driving crazier than normal.
Or guys getting a bunch of bikini clad Ho's on board and all of a sudden they are SUPER RACER.lol
No one wants to have to wear them but it gives you an excuse to MAKE the people on board be safe.
I have also had People on board and I am running 70 MPH back in 3/4 fters and I turn around and they are sitting up on the rear hatch with no jackets on. WTF I stopped the boat immediately and was pissed. I dont need to get manslaughter charges becasue some Drunk AZZ's decided to climb up on the back of my boat at speed.
As for the post on NY having mandatory life jacket laws. I think its a good thing.
I have seen WAYYY to many people Getting sauced and then getting into a boat in LI as well as in CT and driving crazier than normal.
Or guys getting a bunch of bikini clad Ho's on board and all of a sudden they are SUPER RACER.lol
No one wants to have to wear them but it gives you an excuse to MAKE the people on board be safe.
I have also had People on board and I am running 70 MPH back in 3/4 fters and I turn around and they are sitting up on the rear hatch with no jackets on. WTF I stopped the boat immediately and was pissed. I dont need to get manslaughter charges becasue some Drunk AZZ's decided to climb up on the back of my boat at speed.
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And for everyones info lifeline is not the only jacket builder that has a zipper and legstraps, I fished in the BASS tour for years, and both my jackets had zippers and leg straps and were designed for 100mph use, I sold them about 10 years ago, I really wish I could remember what brand they were, they were USCG approved and both were blue and silver, hell they would have matched my boat...
It's true there's no value on life but if there's a brand that meets the needs on both ends (safety and accountability) I will buy it first. I'm sure that's going to be an unpopular answer but it's just my $.02.



