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slpcamaross97 01-16-2012 06:45 PM

Red 28ft race hull with twin Obs
 
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Anyone know of this boat?

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o43515-en.html

jfm 01-16-2012 07:44 PM

That thing looks bad as hell.

Baja 2008 01-17-2012 11:38 AM

Cool boat.

rchevelle71 01-17-2012 12:36 PM

Looks like a good deal for the $$

bulletbob 01-17-2012 01:44 PM

I Remember when it was for sale before. I thought about it before buying my Velocity with twin outboards. I think Lightspeed on here rigged the boat for his sister or sister in-law who owned the boat. Cool boat. Get a survey if your interested.

matthewr 01-17-2012 10:23 PM

I bought a baja from that dealer. They are excellent to deal with. Very helpful. Don't know the boat, but it sure looks like it rocks.

bigboat28 01-18-2012 02:16 PM

You finally find your outboard boat?

272bajadriver 01-20-2012 08:51 AM

Seems like a cool boat, what was the gps top speed It was hard to see just wondering if you guys saw it?

rchevelle71 01-20-2012 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by 272bajadriver (Post 3597578)
Seems like a cool boat, what was the gps top speed It was hard to see just wondering if you guys saw it?

Probably high 70's, to low 80's depending on what 2.5's those motors are.

hotjava66 01-20-2012 02:23 PM

Cool boat, only drawback to me is the red interior. That red vinyl will blister your ass if you forget to cover it.

slpcamaross97 01-21-2012 06:24 PM

All good info guys. I would love to have a io activator but this would save me 10,000 right up front.

slpcamaross97 01-21-2012 06:50 PM

Speeds on the YouTube video was 62 mph. The broker of the boat said that was with the trim tabs and engines all the way in... The guy driving is a sales guy so they were playing it safe since it was the first time driving it.

jfm 01-21-2012 09:39 PM

I had a red gel boat once and it looked great but took a ton of work to keep it that way.

rchevelle71 01-23-2012 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by slpcamaross97 (Post 3598590)
Speeds on the YouTube video was 62 mph. The broker of the boat said that was with the trim tabs and engines all the way in... The guy driving is a sales guy so they were playing it safe since it was the first time driving it.


Seems slow for twins, even if those are stock 200's, should be getting close to 70.

rchevelle71 01-23-2012 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by jfm (Post 3598663)
I had a red gel boat once and it looked great but took a ton of work to keep it that way.

Judging by the overspray on the trailer I would say it is paint rather than gel.

slpcamaross97 01-23-2012 10:48 AM


Originally Posted by rchevelle71 (Post 3599618)
Judging by the overspray on the trailer I would say it is paint rather than gel.

You would be correct. Hull sides, transum and deck have been repainted red.

Anyone good at photo-chop. Add some back to this thing for idea?

gare 01-24-2012 09:59 PM


Originally Posted by slpcamaross97 (Post 3598590)
Speeds on the YouTube video was 62 mph. The broker of the boat said that was with the trim tabs and engines all the way in... The guy driving is a sales guy so they were playing it safe since it was the first time driving it.

The boat was real regular around Peoria a couple years back. I don't remember him having any problems with it. I was told back then that it ran in the 60s......dock talk.
I've got a couple pics from a couple years ago. PM me your email and I'll send them.

slpcamaross97 01-25-2012 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by gare (Post 3600910)
The boat was real regular around Peoria a couple years back. I don't remember him having any problems with it. I was told back then that it ran in the 60s......dock talk.
I've got a couple pics from a couple years ago. PM me your email and I'll send them.

Feel free to to email them to me and ill post them.

[email protected].

Were you a owner of the boat? Looks like Jersey Devil owned it around 2009.

bulletbob 01-25-2012 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by slpcamaross97 (Post 3601116)
Feel free to to email them to me and ill post them.

[email protected].

Were you a owner of the boat? Looks like Jersey Devil owned it around 2009.

Jersey Devil did own that boat if I remember correctly. You should be able to contact him here or Scream and Fly for info.

slpcamaross97 01-25-2012 07:54 PM

So Jersey Devil did own the boat. He got it from the orginal owner. Lightspeed rigged the boat. Boat has the same specs as the Ocean Outboard race team.

Speeds are between mid 60s and 80s depending on power and props.

bulletbob 01-26-2012 05:43 AM

Jersey Devil had a fleet of twin outboard vees when I bought my Tbred and may still have them. I thought I remembered the boat having twin 225 pms'. If that was the case I would have thought it would run in the 70s'.

rchevelle71 01-26-2012 07:39 AM


Originally Posted by slpcamaross97 (Post 3601689)
Speeds are between mid 60s and 80s depending on power and props.


I need me one of them 20MPH gaining props :lolhit:

Twin O/B Sonic 01-26-2012 10:01 AM

I think.......
 

Originally Posted by rchevelle71 (Post 3601906)
I need me one of them 20MPH gaining props :lolhit:

most were in the 60's. For sure the pleasure versions were.
I seem to remember a guy restoring one yrs back though that I believe had a cuddy and was into low 80's w/two stout 2.5's.
It may have been a light weight hull too.
Thinking FreezeFrame or one of the photog guys had a pleasure version that was claiming high 70's if not 80 but I'd have to see it.

rchevelle71 01-26-2012 11:54 AM

:lolhit:I must have misread it, I was assuming he meant THIS one, I missed the "power" part of "power and props":drink:

JUPITER PULSARE 01-26-2012 03:32 PM

If all goes well, I'll be the owner of a 28' twin outboard Checkmate also! Working on finalizing the details!

demag67 01-26-2012 10:18 PM


Originally Posted by Twin O/B Sonic (Post 3602013)
most were in the 60's. For sure the pleasure versions were.
I seem to remember a guy restoring one yrs back though that I believe had a cuddy and was into low 80's w/two stout 2.5's.
It may have been a light weight hull too.
Thinking FreezeFrame or one of the photog guys had a pleasure version that was claiming high 70's if not 80 but I'd have to see it.

sharkey had the boat. it was a 281 maxxum with 260s. his hull is a lot heavier though. if you search 281 maxxum w/2.5 efi offshores you will find the post here.

bulletbob 01-27-2012 07:25 AM


Originally Posted by JUPITER PULSARE (Post 3602341)
If all goes well, I'll be the owner of a 28' twin outboard Checkmate also! Working on finalizing the details!

Good luck Jupiter! Keep us posted!

demag67 01-27-2012 07:27 PM

If you didn't get a hold of jersey devil yet, here is the postt when he first got the boat. http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/c...oard-28-a.html

2tonchevy 06-21-2012 02:14 PM

sold my cat.....

bout to buy this boat tomorrow.....

anybody have a reason why i shouldnt?

kinda like to know the history on it. Jersey devil has emailed me some info....

just wnated to hear some opinions on its over all condition......

thanks!

bulletbob 06-22-2012 06:52 AM

Good luck 2ton. I hope everything goes smoothly for you. Let us know how it runs and how you like it. I had a Thouroughbred with twins as my first performance boat. You really had to drive that boat at speed. What cat did you have?

Bob

JUPITER PULSARE 06-22-2012 08:34 AM

From what I've been researching, the Ocean Outboard race boat ran 78-82 MPH. I'm finally getting down to finishing the deal on my 2800SX. The boat currently has twin 260's and runs into the 80's. I'm going to buy the boat with one of the 260's and sell off the powerhead. My plan is to run the boat with offshore single piston clamps, offshore mids, sportmasters or CLE's and stock 2.5 200hp powerheads with reeds. The boat should run 70+ with reliability!

2tonchevy 06-24-2012 08:16 PM

drove 20+ plus hours friday to get my nem 28 ......was on the water saturday.

one of the best days ive had on the water in a long time. great boat.

had to fix the hydraulic steering and replace a hub/prop nut/and keeper in on of the props that morning. cleaned greased both prop shafts. checked lower unit oil. just routine stuff. boat runs flawlessly so far.

never pushed the boat...ran it up to 60 a couple times...should have plenty more in it.... the tabs were down and i was just bareley trimmed turnin about 5700 rpm.

its TOTALLY different experience to me. but i love the sound (or lack there of). it seems big enought o handle decent water but small and light enough to still be nimble.

gnna finish out the cuddy with lighting and cushions and put sun pad on the back.....maybe put in a hatch on the bow.

i think i have a keeper. we'll see.

PS: Jerry and all the folks at GRAND SPORT CENTER IN MORRIS ILLINOIS get an AAAAA++++++ rating from me. most accommodating and business like transaction i have experienced in a loooong time.

Twin O/B Sonic 06-24-2012 08:18 PM

Great report.
 

Originally Posted by 2tonchevy (Post 3716532)
drove 20+ plus hours friday to get my nem 28 ......was on the water saturday.

one of the best days ive had on the water in a long time. great boat.

had to fix the hydraulic steering and replace a hub/prop nut/and keeper in on of the props that morning. cleaned greased both prop shafts. checked lower unit oil. just routine stuff. boat runs flawlessly so far.

never pushed the boat...ran it up to 60 a couple times...should have plenty more in it.... the tabs were down and i was just bareley trimmed turnin about 5700 rpm.

its TOTALLY different experience to me. but i love the sound (or lack there of). it seems big enought o handle decent water but small and light enough to still be nimble.

gnna finish out the cuddy with lighting and cushions and put sun pad on the back.....maybe put in a hatch on the bow.

i think i have a keeper. we'll see.

Great looking boats and one of my favorites. Looking forward to some pix's and more details on it. Congrats.
Kinda nice when a plan actually works out ;)

2tonchevy 06-24-2012 08:29 PM

man it was worth the drive for sure.

ive never owned or driven an outboard boat other than a bass boat....so i was really ignorant on the whole thing....i put at least 80 miles on er yesterday....

but after yesterday im pretty sure i made the right choice. trouble free times on the water with good friends.

rchevelle71 06-25-2012 06:32 AM

Congrats, you'll love everything about the outbards, except the fuel bill.

2tonchevy 06-25-2012 09:14 AM

lol thanks!

i spent 90% of the time cruising at 4000 rpm and it didnt seem to use as much fuel as i originally thought.

to be honest it didnt seem to be much worse if any thaan my 28 scarab with a single 454.

but im sure if i open it up the gauge would start flyin. lol

bulletbob 06-25-2012 01:45 PM

The 2.5s' get great fuel economy if you keep it under 4k. The 3 liters are pigs. I was hoping you would like the boat. I almost bought it a few years ago. It's a very nice and "economical" package. Enjoy!!!

JUPITER PULSARE 06-25-2012 03:25 PM

Sounds great and your posts have got me motivated. I should be joining you in owning another
Checkmate 2800SX outboard. They're pretty rare with less than 20 being built. I've only located 5 that exist today. Can't wait to start working on my boat!

rchevelle71 06-25-2012 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by bulletbob (Post 3717084)
The 2.5s' get great fuel economy if you keep it under 4k. The 3 liters are pigs. I was hoping you would like the boat. I almost bought it a few years ago. It's a very nice and "economical" package. Enjoy!!!

I hear ya, but who wants to run under 4k, the point in having a 2 stroke is to let it rev???

2tonchevy 06-25-2012 03:40 PM

heres a question (or two) for you guys:

what should i see for top speed?

whats the max rpm on the 2.5 promax?

ima start airing the boat out a bit more as i get used to it and just wana know what rpm/ speed i should be seeing when im maxed out. its got 26 pitch choppers on it now.....

LIGHTSPEED, the guy that built and rigged this boat from new with three different sets of motors, and i have been talkin and he says the boat ran 77 mph on gps with the exact setup i have now. i hope hes right! that would be killer!


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