Big Boss:

I understand the dealer game, and obviously that dirty fuel would be a problem. I'm a DURAMAX owner and a dealer for pretty much every Diesel performance product out there including modules, programemrs, intakes and exh systems.

The DURAMAX has had injector issues since 2001. This is why they have extended the warranty and released a REVISED fuel filter for the application. My personal experience is that ALL of my injectores have been warrantied and I have numerous customers that have reported injector failures from standard fuel use. Most recently a customer that used RED fuel. His failure was almost immediate. Perhaps its a coincidence, but the point I was making is that the Bosch system and injectore are perhaps a little more delicate than most.

this ain't no article buddy.... its not a spectre and these aren't yanmars...

CCPerformance-- Again I concur. I only have two Duramaxs that have not had the injectors replaced ( both less than 6 months old) It was not the red dyes fault. It was GMC's fault and yes they were all fixed under the extended warranty. It is not the red fuel. You are in the performance business- I am just some jerk out here in cyberspace. Go to the nearest distrbutor and ask them how they dye their fuel you will see what I mean.

Sorry Sean! I had the person confused. My fault. Croozin2 was who I ment to address.

I've been aware of the Duramax testing since the Duramax came out in 2001. In 2002, the horsepower numbers, in a marine application, were near 600.

I would have to agree with big-boss. I have been running dyed fuel for years without any problems. In the farm truck, an '85 Chevy 1/2 ton 4x4 with a 6.2, I have always put an ounce or two of Automatic Tranny Fluid in at every fill-up. The ATF lubes the injection pump. I can't run offroad here in Illinois that would be illegal.

On a different note, my friend Jon's '01 Duramax spit parts at 90,000 Miles and Chevrolet paid for the whole thing. He was only without a truck for 2 days. The truck did not have an easy life. He pulled a 20 Ft enclosed trailer everywhere he went and usually at 90 to 95 mph.

Hey Big Boss:

I'm all about saving money on diesel fuel. I don't know much about the offroad fuel or red fuel if they are the same. The only information I've heard was that it wasn't as refined as the stuff one would get at the average gas station. What is the current cost? If it's that much cheaper, how much of the cost reduction is due to reduced taxes VS processing?

And again, I see littel problem with mech FI systems, but if there are any increased impurities, I'd forsee problems with the Bosch systems. Additionally, I'm not sure about GM warranty, but if they don't warranty for this fuel this could cause add'l problems when its time to get things fixed. I know for a fact most technicians test fuel when they see fuel related problems. This could be an expensive process.

Thanks

same fuel from the same tanks...

it's dyed for home delivery/farm so you can pay the huge fines if caught running it on the road and "ripping off" the gov't for the road taxes...

think of the tint as a "tracer"

that dye stays in the truck fuel system alot longer than you think...
and you can be denied warranty for it which is...

...f'kin rediculous
it's the same fuel you buy on the street, just with some HARMLESS red tint added. Often right as they are filling the tank truck at the distributor

Whats the current cost for the red fuel vs the other where you're at?

right now in the "panic" it's 50 cents a gallon cheaper than undyed, taxed road fuel.

historically, sometimes more...sometimes less...

I only drive 6-8K a year anymore (8 miles to work, 20 miles to water) so it's not worth the hassle to me.

Yea, I know...why a diesel? Resale, and all the power I want when I need it.

plus I just love the scent of diesel in the morning!

I've heard stories of "the man" (SP, DOT) pulling into stockyards, auctionhouse lots out west and testing the fuel in your diesel pickup on the spot!

They are starting to do that in CA, (checking PU's) $500.00 fine in CA. for using the dyed fuel. Right now the fuel is only about 32 cents cheaper-hardly worth the hassel.