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Old 10-30-2006 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation
I love Cigarettes but that Top Fish CC is taking the company in the wrong direction. The TF CC was nicely equipped but you would never want fish blood in that interior. Power rear transom seat looks cool/ very functional but how is that going to look with a 50 lb fish being gaffed over it. The Fountain 38 TE has less flash, more versatile and about 200K less.

The 50 Marauder on display had filthy carpet, the 3 other Top Guns were average at best. The only boat they had on display that showcased their potential the best was the Purple 42 X LIPSHIP edition yet they had it displayed at a distance from their booth. You had to walk around to the east dock to see the boat up close. Lipship boat was the only boat worth seeing!
...There's one in every crowd!!! Dude, go home!!!!!!
FYI - the Top Fish is priced "exactly" the same as the Fountain --- appx. 400k! Get your facts straight, bro! Besides, if you're looking for an "industrial" version CC, everyone knows you would never find that in a Cigarette anyway....

In my understanding from nearly every Cig. owner I know, if we scratch, rip etc.... something --- we can afford to fix it!!!!! You're apparently just not ready for this big of a step yet!

P.S. By the way... What boat do you have?

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Old 10-30-2006 | 01:28 PM
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Wow Joe, you're fiesty today....Don't worry you wont be boatless for long


Look for the test review of the 39CC in an upcoming Powerboat mag issue. They tested it and Phils 42X a couple of weeks ago and were impressed, to say the least, with both.
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Old 10-30-2006 | 01:34 PM
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Wow Joe, you're fiesty today....Don't worry you wont be boatless for long


Look for the test review of the 39CC in an upcoming Powerboat mag issue. They tested it and Phils 42X a couple of weeks ago and were impressed, to say the least, with both.
Yeah, well.....Been traveling a bunch, spent waaaay too many hours out at night in Laud., haven't spent much "quality time" with the wife.... and yes, boatless ---- add it all up and I apparently get a bit cranky (or crankier --- there... beat you to it! )!

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Old 10-30-2006 | 05:42 PM
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...There's one in every crowd!!! Dude, go home!!!!!!
FYI - the Top Fish is priced "exactly" the same as the Fountain --- appx. 400k! Get your facts straight, bro! Besides, if you're looking for an "industrial" version CC, everyone knows you would never find that in a Cigarette anyway....

In my understanding from nearly every Cig. owner I know, if we scratch, rip etc.... something --- we can afford to fix it!!!!! You're apparently just not ready for this big of a step yet!

P.S. By the way... What boat do you have?

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Hey Joe remember Fountains may have the same MSRP but the discounts given off MSRP are a lot better than the discount the Top Fish buyers are going to get in the next 5 years!. I think the Top Fish is going to be just as successful as the 33 Ocean Hawk it replaced. It is the wrong direction for Cigarette in my opinion. There are too many center consoles in that market that are serious fish boats and it waters down Cigarette's image. Bring that boat to a serious offshore tournament and you will get laughed at by the guys in Contenders, Yellowfins and Intrepids.
I loved the billet top, power seats and other feautures in the boat but don't think it will represent Cigarette's image.

As far as my boat, I thought you could figure it was a Sunsation. Did you see the new F4 with 700's about 50 ft from the Cigarette display?

Just for the record, Phil's 42 X was the baddest Cigarette at the show and represents the product line nicely. Since you sold your TG, Did you buy the Top Fish?
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Old 10-30-2006 | 07:10 PM
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12 ocean hawks made, in 3 years... they have 8 top fishes sold allready
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Old 10-30-2006 | 08:28 PM
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I think the top right Cigarette photo in jayboat's post #33 looks like something commisioned by McDonald's!!

Just look at those seats...my first thought was a french fry container. And yes...I ate supper about a half hour ago and it wasn't Mickey D's!! I think Cigarette has been going in the wrong direction for a loooong time. Too much bling that I feel is visually obtrusive to the heritage of this boat.

How about a 'retro' styled boat like Ford has done with the Mustang? That will keep purists like me happy. I think their work on the Shelby GT500 is magnificent. Classic, agressive lines with modern underpinnings and the right power. That's why I bought one for my girlfriend last week. Only 3K over MSRP...pays to be in the right place at the right time!!

Come on Cigarette...rise to the challenge and step up to the plate. Use the TG as your platform. Ferrari pulled it off with their new 599 GTB and the 612 Scaglietti. I have also owned a few prancing horses too - early ones, of course.

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Old 10-31-2006 | 12:11 AM
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For tg Hawk and Jupiter Sunsation:

First point: "bling" is what sells right now. You can't fault cig or any of the other brands for meeting customer demands.

Second point: Cig (or at least Phil) will build you whatever you want. Cigarette is no stranger to respecting their heritage and representing it in boats they build (if that's what the buyer wants). Case in point, refer to pic below.

Third point: I don't really think Cigarette expects to see hard-core fishing buyers. I think they are looking for the customer that wants something to entertain on, fish on, go to diner or drinks on, cruise (fast) on and cruise the bays on. basically a more versatile boat than the current line up.

Basically you can't live off the past and stay stuck in a certain era. You need to be constantly re-inventing yourself and keeping things fresh while listening to the buyers demands. I think Cig has done this and is doing this just fine.
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Old 10-31-2006 | 05:40 AM
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If Cig is loking to build all these qualitites into their boat for the "non fishing" layman to look cool in, how are they going to 'splain it to the proud owner of one of the 439 GRAND boats they just got their ass handed to them by a less expensive boat, say a Seahunter or a Yellowfin or a Contender or a SeaVee?? Let alone Fountain..

66 with trips is a pig... Sorry, just laying it out as I see it folks...
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Old 10-31-2006 | 12:05 PM
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If Cig is loking to build all these qualitites into their boat for the "non fishing" layman to look cool in, how are they going to 'splain it to the proud owner of one of the 439 GRAND boats they just got their ass handed to them by a less expensive boat, say a Seahunter or a Yellowfin or a Contender or a SeaVee?? Let alone Fountain..

66 with trips is a pig... Sorry, just laying it out as I see it folks...
Well, I think the owner of the CC Cig will just pull his or her 42X with staggard 1075's out and spank them if they want to race. Point is, it's not a race boat. don't think the buyers main concern is speed. And I still think the general rule applies. Get out in water that matter and see who's spanking who in the CC's.
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Old 10-31-2006 | 06:53 PM
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Well, I think the owner of the CC Cig will just pull his or her 42X with staggard 1075's out and spank them if they want to race. Point is, it's not a race boat. don't think the buyers main concern is speed. And I still think the general rule applies. Get out in water that matter and see who's spanking who in the CC's.
It's a Cig, it's new to the market, boys will be boys....

I guess my point is, it's a Cig.. Regardless of what it is built for, it should be able to back the name... And if you need to go home andf get your 42X with .25 million dollars of hp in it to beat a .25 mil boat, Houston, we have a problem..
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