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powerquest 380 10-24-2006 05:47 PM

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I just sold my 38 Powerquest and Im thinking about a Top Gun or Cafe racer. I boat in Lake Mi and its rough most all the time, and the cig guys love rough water, so give me the info on Cigs. I like em but dont know that much about them.

Clay Washington 10-24-2006 06:24 PM

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Big, heavy, classic lines, best boat on the water, period. :D

dreamer 10-24-2006 06:44 PM

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http://www.offshoreonly.com/esvon/page-11828.html

call me

jmackin 10-24-2006 07:14 PM

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I've owned 2 PQ's and 2 Cigs. I might be able to give you some comparison info. :cool:

BillR 10-25-2006 07:45 AM

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I've owned 2 PQ's and now have a TG TS.
DO IT! You will not regret it.
The ride is very solid. No rattles, creak or groans - no matter what the what conditions are. You will actually yearn for rough water as the ride is SO good that smooth water / 1'-2' chop is kinda boring.
The boat handles predictably and your confidence level will improve 100%.
When (if) it comes to re-sale - you'll have a brand name boat that holds it's value and will be easy to sell.
The motors are a joy to work on vs. the engine box you had. You can climb right on in!

Before I bought the TG, I test drove and rode as many boats as I possible could. The TG's ride was by FAR superior. (I didn't ride any Nor-Tech or Outerlimits or similar)

PM me any specifics.
Best decision I've made.

Clay Washington 10-25-2006 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by jmackin
I've owned 2 PQ's and 2 Cigs. I might be able to give you some comparison info. :cool:

2000 TG is SOLD??? Did you sell the Cig you picked up in Houston?

Crazyhorse 10-25-2006 10:42 AM

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Powerquest 380, Shogren Performance in Chicago is having a Top Gun re-engined at Wes Co Engines in Jenison right now. It's got SSM #3 drives, good transmissions (BAM I think) and will have really nice blower motors with warranty. You might want to call Scott Shogren to see if you can view the boat. Looking is free and it's close to you. I think the boat is listed on their website too.
I think Boatme has a Top Gun for sale too. He's in Spring Lake I think.
Have you ever thought about a 38 Flat-Deck?

Perfectmix 10-25-2006 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by powerquest 380
I just sold my 38 Powerquest and Im thinking about a Top Gun or Cafe racer. I boat in Lake Mi and its rough most all the time, and the cig guys love rough water, so give me the info on Cigs. I like em but dont know that much about them.

I have been thinking about the same thing. Congrats on your boat sale:)

jmackin 10-25-2006 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Clay Washington
2000 TG is SOLD??? Did you sell the Cig you picked up in Houston?

Yeh, unfortunately. :(

powerquest 380 10-25-2006 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Crazyhorse
Powerquest 380, Shogren Performance in Chicago is having a Top Gun re-engined at Wes Co Engines in Jenison right now. It's got SSM #3 drives, good transmissions (BAM I think) and will have really nice blower motors with warranty. You might want to call Scott Shogren to see if you can view the boat. Looking is free and it's close to you. I think the boat is listed on their website too.
I think Boatme has a Top Gun for sale too. He's in Spring Lake I think.
Have you ever thought about a 38 Flat-Deck?

Im open to anything, I dont want to go too crazy on the $$ though. What is Boatme TG all about?

powerquest 380 10-25-2006 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Perfectmix
I have been thinking about the same thing. Congrats on your boat sale:)

thanks :D
Sold her in just over 2 weeks, can you beleve that!!
Ed at Great Lakes brokered the boat.

Wild 10-25-2006 12:22 PM

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can be had in two weeks after the key west run
you will not find one cleaner or faster for the power - reliable -
Randy Wild 314-420-2619

grimmy 10-25-2006 01:19 PM

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Crazyhorse 10-25-2006 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by powerquest 380
Im open to anything, I dont want to go too crazy on the $$ though. What is Boatme TG all about?

I don't personally know the boat but it's a good-looking boat and it's clean every time I see it. The last I knew I think it had nice 525SC engines. He's on the board regularly so put a thread in the general section asking him to contact you.
Like I said, looking is free and the Shogren Top Gun can't be more than 15 minutes away. It never hurts to look at every boat that's close.

Lucky Strike Jr 10-25-2006 01:38 PM

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I would look at the Blue Flamingo....can't beat it for the money!

boatme 10-25-2006 03:13 PM

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Crazy hourse was correct

i had a TG for sale but it went By By 3 months ago its new home is in Florida

Dave (Crazyhourse) Thanks for the heads up on this one

Powerquest you will love a TG they are a great boat

This is us runnning a Florida Poker Run

thisistank 10-25-2006 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucky Strike Jr
I would look at the Blue Flamingo....can't beat it for the money!

"Blue Flamingo" :D :D That's good!

Or he can look at a certain F-2 boat that was world champion in '00 huh!? :cool:

pkspx 10-25-2006 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dreamer

does she come with the boat? :drink:

All you PQ guys are getting out and buying Cigs... Got to be something here. I was looking more into the Fountains because I hear they are all topspeed and thats mainly what I am looking for.

Crazyhorse 10-25-2006 08:19 PM

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Marc, it was great to talk with you today. Maybe we'll have to go out on the flat-deck next summer if you don't have another offshore runner.

boatme 10-26-2006 06:21 AM

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Dave,

WE would love to do a boating day with you guys

Good luck geting the rig to FL

stay in touch it is going to be a long cold winter

Marc

powerquest 380 10-26-2006 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by pkspx
does she come with the boat? :drink:

All you PQ guys are getting out and buying Cigs... Got to be something here. I was looking more into the Fountains because I hear they are all topspeed and thats mainly what I am looking for.


Im after a rough water boat, the Fountians I know of are fast but not a very dry boat in rough water.

BillR 10-26-2006 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by powerquest 380
Im after a rough water boat, the Fountians I know of are fast but not a very dry boat in rough water.

No so. My buddy has a '05 Fountain Executioner (35') and it rides almost as good as my TG and it is a dry boat. I have never been a fan of Fountains until he got the Ex. It was a pleasant surprise. I still don't care for the styling or ergonomics - but that is personal preference.

pkspx,
A Fountain is a nice boat. But a Cig is worth the wait if you have to save up. I know a few guys that recently upgraded to a TG. All were a little skeptical about spending that much money. But after they've had it a season, ALL said it was the best boating decision they've ever made.

whirlwind 10-26-2006 08:31 AM

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Come on Bill,everyone here knows a 35 Fountain is really a 32 and rides good for a 32,but no way does it compare to a TG.I had a 38 Fountain 2yrs ago and it would not run with my buddies TG in bad water,in fact,it was all it could do to stay with a 36 Baja.Other than a Nortech,which I have owned,nothing rides like a TG,I currently own an 01. Buy a TG,the resale is the best in performance boats,you wont be dissapointed.In my humble opinion of course.

pkspx 10-26-2006 08:38 AM

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I know I'm thread hijacking haha but I know my next boat will have to have max top end with the ability to ride in rough Lake Erie waters. The PQ seems to do a pretty damn good job with 2-3's. I don't understand how Fountains wouldn't be able to handle rough water since I thought they are built for offshore racing anyways?

MrCIG 10-26-2006 10:55 AM

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It's not that Fountains can't handle the rough water. It is all about the comfort of the ride. You have to ride in both boats on the same day in the same water conditions to really understand. Old Cigs cut the water where as Fountains ride accross the tops of the waves.

Mark :drink:

Crazyhorse 10-26-2006 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by pkspx
does she come with the boat? :drink:

All you PQ guys are getting out and buying Cigs... Got to be something here. I was looking more into the Fountains because I hear they are all topspeed and thats mainly what I am looking for.

Here's a tip- there's always someone else out there with something shinier, newer, prettier, flashier, but ESPECIALLY, faster.
Another thing, the faster it is, the harder and more expensive it is to insure. You got deep pockets, go buy a really fast boat. While you're at it, buy a cat.

Perfectmix, stop down next spring and we'll spend a day out on the water with the Crazy Horse. You can play as hard as you want. No strings attached. That's how Mr Cig and his wife got us interested in the Cigarettes.

baronmarine 10-26-2006 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Wild
can be had in two weeks after the key west run
you will not find one cleaner or faster for the power - reliable -
Randy Wild 314-420-2619

randy's boat would be a good one. it looks great and is very very nice. we were at lip ships last winter running around the bay with phil in our gun. and randy has with us in his.
todd

Downtown42 10-26-2006 07:15 PM

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hmmm

cfischer 10-26-2006 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by powerquest 380
I just sold my 38 Powerquest and Im thinking about a Top Gun or Cafe racer. I boat in Lake Mi and its rough most all the time, and the cig guys love rough water, so give me the info on Cigs. I like em but dont know that much about them.

Where is your boat? I am at the Wharf. If you need help finding a nice Cig, to us at the Wharf!

JC 10-26-2006 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Wild
can be had in two weeks after the key west run
you will not find one cleaner or faster for the power - reliable -
Randy Wild 314-420-2619


Can you give me a headsup on who made yoiu cover.
Do you get alot of slapping when towing?

BillR 10-27-2006 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by whirlwind
Come on Bill,everyone here knows a 35 Fountain is really a 32 and rides good for a 32,but no way does it compare to a TG.I had a 38 Fountain 2yrs ago and it would not run with my buddies TG in bad water,in fact,it was all it could do to stay with a 36 Baja.Other than a Nortech,which I have owned,nothing rides like a TG,I currently own an 01. Buy a TG,the resale is the best in performance boats,you wont be dissapointed.In my humble opinion of course.

whirlwind,
I agree with ya 100%, nothing rides like a TG. Since I was not a Fountain Fan, nor never rode in one, I was very surprised to see that it rode so well. Since this thread was from a previous PQ owner looking for info, I was trying to relate to his situation. Since I came from a PQ and making a comparison, on a scale of 1 to 10, the Cig rides like a 10, the Fountain 7 or 8. Which is "closer" than 1 which would be my refernce point - the PQ. The ride of the TG still amazes me, even after owning it 2 1/2 years. IMHO, anyone who buys one will not regret thier decision - (provided they are financially able to afford it).

Powerquest 380 - Take you time, and find a nice TG. I seached about 1 1/2 years to find one that was taken care of and was "the right one" for me. Beware- pictures lie!
:D :evilb: :evilb:

powerquest 380 10-27-2006 08:42 AM

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Thanks BillR, Im in no hurry and Im looking for the "right" boat.

creeper 10-27-2006 09:37 AM

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I am also starting to look into Cigs, But I have some questions First one is why do I keep hearing in diffrent threads "CIG IF YOU CAN AFFORD IT" all boats cost alot to maintain.Whats so diff about Cigarettes????

Wild 10-27-2006 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by creeper
I am also starting to look into Cigs, But I have some questions First one is why do I keep hearing in diffrent threads "CIG IF YOU CAN AFFORD IT" all boats cost alot to maintain.Whats so diff about Cigarettes????


A little more expensive if you compare brands, but they hold there value better, and they are worth it. There may be some boats cheaper, but none better than the "1"

Wild

LEOPAJM 10-27-2006 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by offshore whore
Where is your boat? I am at the Wharf. If you need help finding a nice Cig, to us at the Wharf!


What do you know about "nice Cigs" ???? :drink:

BillR 10-27-2006 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by creeper
I am also starting to look into Cigs, But I have some questions First one is why do I keep hearing in different threads "CIG IF YOU CAN AFFORD IT" all boats cost allot to maintain.Whats so diff about Cigarettes????

The parts you buy from Cig - lets just say they have to pay for their new facility somehow. :D :D

Plus they ride so well, you'll be putting the hammer down much further.

hammer01 10-27-2006 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JC
Can you give me a headsup on who made yoiu cover.
Do you get alot of slapping when towing?

not positive jc about randy's, but i had that identical cover. it was made by phil's customer covers in lake of the ozarks, lake ozark, mo address i believe. if you can not find it by dialing information, you can reach phil's brother mike at berger's marina at 573-365-2337. mine was on my donzi and it was the best thing i ever bought for my boat as well. it was not horrible priced either, i think just over 1k for a 38 foot boat with the side skirts to cover all the way down. i did get some slapping on mine, but did not take the time to modify the front flaps which was causing the problem. could be modified during construction to tow better. hammer

Perfectmix 10-28-2006 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Crazyhorse
Perfectmix, stop down next spring and we'll spend a day out on the water with the Cravy Horse. You can play as hard as you want. No strings attached. That's how Mr Cig and his wife got us interested in the Cigarettes.

Hey Dave,
I'm overdue for some boating in your neck of the woods:D I'll se ya in the spring. BTW, nice seeing you up Mac. this summer. The CRAZY HORSE is looking good.

Crazyhorse 10-28-2006 12:13 PM

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Thanks, PM. Yes, it was good to see you too. I hope you had a great time up there. It was definitely great weather!
When Barb and i were looking for a Cigarette we initially included the 35 Mistress and Cafe Racer boats but the more we looked the more we decided on a 38. At the time (fall 2002-early 2003) there just weren't a lot of Cigarettes that were worth the asking price, either because the boats were overpriced or because they were in much poorer condition than they were represented to be in the ads. Everyone owns a "10, inside and out!" when in reality the boat is (amd I'm being generous here) a 5 outside and a filthy 3 inside. It still amazes me that people will list a boat and leave last seasons' beer cans, liquor bottles, dirty dishes, dirty clothes and swimwear laying all over in the boat. And then you look in the engine room,,,,,,,,,,yeah, that's a pretty picture too.
We had been watching the "Party Dall" here on OSO for quite a while and had talked with Dave Dall a few times but it wasn't until February of 2003 that we were able to come up with a deal that both parties could live with. Dave Dall was a great guy to deal with and this boat has been everything it was represented to be.
Take your time, find the right boat and you'll never be disappointed.

BillR 10-29-2006 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Crazyhorse
because the boats were overpriced or because they were in much poorer condition than they were represented to be in the ads. Everyone owns a "10, inside and out!" when in reality the boat is (amd I'm being generous here) a 5 outside and a filthy 3 inside.

That exact situation is exactly what I found when shopping for a TG. Lots of pretty ads claiming a "10" and lots of poorly maintained boats. Took me about 1 1/2 years to find the right boat that was cared for.


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