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4195 02-14-2007 10:47 AM

I am interested in the 3 pillows. You can email me @ [email protected]

Back4More 03-01-2007 09:07 AM

Rip

terryandalexa 03-02-2007 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by thisistank (Post 2024959)
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK, That's insane!!:eek:

Can't wait to see how it comes out.:cool:

DITTO! tank... wow... It actually hurts to see it!

Bad Enoug... I'm glad your up to the challenge... !

thisistank 03-02-2007 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by terryandalexa (Post 2044876)
DITTO! tank... wow... It actually hurts to see it!

Bad Enoug... I'm glad your up to the challenge... !

Terry, get your azz signed up for Havasu! Cigs gotta represent! Let's do this!!:cool:

BAD ENOUGH 03-07-2007 09:31 PM

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Here is what I did last week.

MF 03-08-2007 04:17 AM

Man you surely know how to move .....

hurleyr 03-08-2007 04:31 PM

Looks like you have done this before?

Keep posting pics! This wil be a fun one to watch.

otis311 03-08-2007 06:28 PM

I have the dash plates from my 94 Gun you can have if you need them

Steve_H 03-08-2007 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by BAD ENOUGH (Post 2050447)
Here is what I did last week.

looking good Travis:cool:

you get the drives from Riski Bidness (Jim) yet?

BAD ENOUGH 03-08-2007 09:13 PM

Yeah Steve, I got them last Fri.Thank you and Jim.....:drink:

J-Bonz 03-08-2007 09:37 PM

Trailer is coming along great, My buddy and I were thinking about building one also.......
Jr.

jeff32 03-08-2007 10:20 PM

keep posting!

BAD ENOUGH 03-11-2007 08:39 PM

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I had good help this weekend. Eric , a 13 year old step son stripped my eng comp. by himself. I started a console frame so i would have the right measurements before pulled the rest of the floor out. I think it is going to work pretty well.

BAD ENOUGH 03-11-2007 08:55 PM

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stripped cockpit:D

The Menace 03-11-2007 09:21 PM

I would consider contacting Cigarette and asking them for a price on a new liner. As much damage as there is that would be the surest and easiet way of returning it to "original".

jeff32 03-11-2007 10:09 PM

That Is Called Serious Surgery!

J-Bonz 03-11-2007 10:12 PM

Wow!!

MF 03-12-2007 07:47 AM

You will need a lot of fiberglass !!!

Jeffrey 03-12-2007 11:42 AM

Post #53 shows you trying to frame another driver's console. Wouldn't it be easier to buy the complete fiberglass console from Cigarette. I had one of the four F-2 Top Gun race boats that crashed and bought it damaged. It went through a complete resto and Neill at Cigarette was very helpful in selling me the parts to bring it back to original. The driver's (and passenger's) console are one big fiberglass piece out of a mold. They just bolt in. Cigarette might work with you (price wise) if you explain that you're restoring this boat and doing the work yourself. It's certainly worth a call ...

Back4More 03-12-2007 05:06 PM

I don't think It's salvagable

customryder 03-12-2007 05:26 PM

that boat is dead. & not safe...imo (sorry)

stageharbor 03-12-2007 06:06 PM

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I bought this Donzi 33zf late one night online. My good buddy Murray and I got it back together with many hours of grinding, glassing,Mold making etc. Most would have said it was not repairable. But looking at this project, it was a piece of cake. Hats off to you my friend and good luck. You have great intentions and far more ambition than most. That being said I have to agree with the above posts. Even for an experienced boat builder that would be a very serious undertaking. IMHO :drink:

BAD ENOUGH 03-13-2007 07:04 PM

All it is , is fiberglass and wood.If I remove all of the bad stuff and replace it with new, then it should be SAFE and in great shape.Now stop trying to rain on my parade.I own my top gun and I am enjoying the time I am spending with it. The bottom of this boat is perfect and there is no way I would let it go to the junk pile.:p

Zero Patience 03-13-2007 07:36 PM

You can bring it back. Keep up the good work.

BAD ENOUGH 03-13-2007 07:46 PM

Thanks Z.P., Thats what I want to hear:drink:

jeff1000man 03-13-2007 07:48 PM


Originally Posted by BAD ENOUGH (Post 2050447)
Here is what I did last week.

Be careful with your rib heights on that trailer. If you find a ramp with a break over point that is to steep, yo will hang up and not be able to get her out of the water. You shoud check your measurements for height and don't use a drop axle. I couldn't see from the pics. THey usualy hang around the second rib in front of the axels. I speak from experience.

BAD ENOUGH 03-13-2007 08:57 PM

Hey Jeff, They came out a little lower than I wanted. I do have straight axels though. Also i will be running taller tires.If it does drag , I will trim off some of the bottom. thanks travis:drink:

jeff1000man 03-13-2007 09:16 PM


Originally Posted by BAD ENOUGH (Post 2056996)
Hey Jeff, They came out a little lower than I wanted. I do have straight axels though. Also i will be running taller tires.If it does drag , I will trim off some of the bottom. thanks travis:drink:

You can cut your ribs and weld channel on bottom to make flat. This will give about 1-2" more clearance on the front ribs.

Good Luck, Looking good on the progress.

Sydwayz 03-13-2007 10:50 PM

Bad Enough,

Who built your building? Was it a kit? I am about to embark on a barn project.

O.C.Barry 03-14-2007 06:22 AM


Originally Posted by BAD ENOUGH (Post 2056830)
All it is , is fiberglass and wood.If I remove all of the bad stuff and replace it with new, then it should be SAFE and in great shape.Now stop trying to rain on my parade.I own my top gun and I am enjoying the time I am spending with it. The bottom of this boat is perfect and there is no way I would let it go to the junk pile.:p

I gotta side with Travis (Bad Enough) on this one, since he has the stones to take this on, how about giving him credit for bringing the boat back? Those of us who have restored Top Guns can help him out by sharing our experiences. Those of you who want to be negative, go out and start your own freaking thread.

I give the guy credit for taking on a big project on a limited budget but limitless energy. I think he is going to pull it off.

Barry

MF 03-14-2007 07:34 AM

Personally i think that the work he is going to do will take a lot of time, but i think that it really could be done.
It will only take time, fiberglass and fiberglass clothes (a lot) and at the end it wll be really a great restoration.
I had done a few works on boats on my own and there is nothing that cannot be repaired, unless it is broken bad everywhere. My only doubt in this case would be on how much the fire affected the fiberglass....in the matter of temperature..
But if he takes out all the damaged pieces and cheks the strenght near the damaged places, it can be ok.

Go for it and keep us posted !

That's my opinion.

hurleyr 03-14-2007 04:54 PM

Keep it up! Show these guys it can be done right. I had my doubts when I saw your first pics. Its now clear to me you have the ability to pull it off.

Very few people could pull off a project like this one. It will be quite an accomplishment.

I 'm cheering for ya man!

BAD ENOUGH 03-14-2007 07:30 PM

Hey Sydwayz, My shop was a 60x60 horse barn. Poles and a roof. I put in a floor 7000.00 , Pro panels and insulation about 3500.00 and a 20x12 insulated door 3200.00 installed. It still isn't finished yet though. My boating habit keeps getting in the way.You should check rural papers and farm mags for good deals on kits.:drink:

GoCiggie31 03-14-2007 08:29 PM

Bad Enough,

That is ONE big project, your an inspiration to many of us. The passion that I read in your post will surely payoff in the end product.

Keep us posted and keep those pics coming. This project would make a good t.v. series on cable ( Spike or TLC ):evilb:

Thumbs up Pal:drink: :drink: :drink:

customryder 03-14-2007 08:53 PM

Do you know what extreme temps do the intregity of fiberglass? even if dont look damaged it can be... I dont want discurage you in any way.. but just thought I would give you some friendly advice.. just courious how much experance you have with fiberglass \ gelcoat repair? call Craig Barry he can give you some insight on you project. I admire your will to bring her back. carry on..

Back4More 03-15-2007 01:53 AM


Originally Posted by customryder (Post 2058202)
Do you know what extreme temps do the intregity of fiberglass? even if dont look damaged it can be... I dont want discurage you in any way.. but just thought I would give you some friendly advice.. just courious how much experance you have with fiberglass \ gelcoat repair? call Craig Barry he can give you some insight on you project. I admire your will to bring her back. carry on..

Also,
If this boat has a Salvage title, and/or has been claimed as a Total loss by an insurance company, It will be almost impossible to insure or finance said boat's HIN ever again.
I don't know of any Surveyor willing to sign off on a hull with this amount of fire damage.
Not trying to be negative...just being realistic.

Jamie B. 03-15-2007 09:18 AM

Good points Mark. I guess it depends on how his title reads.

Just wondering aloud here ( ....doh, is that really possible being that we are on the internet ?? :D ), but whats going to happen also when someone goes to try and insure it if its a salvage branded title ? Will it be tough to do ? I would think so, especially if someone is going to want to finance the boat. Would a lender even finance this one also ? Unless he is going to keep this boat FOREVER, I would find some of these things out now..

I do admire the dedication involved on this one thus far.

Steve_H 03-15-2007 09:58 AM

i may be wrong but i dont think boats are tracked like vehicles. his title probably doesnt say anything about salvage.

get er done Travis:cool:

Back4More 03-15-2007 11:56 AM

http://www.boathistoryreport.com/

jeff32 03-15-2007 12:44 PM

I had bought a sunk boat that was salvage and was not written on it unlike cars, and even when I transfered the US Title to a canadian title there where no mention of total loss or salvage boat either...
No problemo!


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