38 from the 80's in Ocean City, MD
 

Anyone remember a 38 named Satin Doll? It was kept on a lift at the White Marlin Marina. Was owned by a car dealer in Baltimore. Just curious if it was still around.

there was a 38 top gun named lethal weapon in oc,don't know what ever happened to it

Satin Doll & Lethal Weopon
 

Wow, this question brings up a lot of great memories!

Satin Doll and Lethal Weapon were both owned by my close friend Bill Schaefer. After owning several 35 Cigarettes, Bill commissioned Satin Doll from Don Aronow around 1978. Satin Doll was purported to be the first 38 Cigarette ever, but I'll have to defer to BROWNIE on that fact. At the very least it was one of the first 38 Cigs ever built. It was all fiberglass with aluminum race hatches and a teak interior. The power was staggered 496 Fuel injected Total Performane engines on 100 octane aviation fuel. In fact Doug Ake, who had the little shop at the marina, installed an underground tank for the av fuel. The boat was an absolute wave - crusher!!! It was my first ride ever in an offshore boat. I was hooked then and still am now (I'm on my 4th and 5th Cigarettes). Bill later donated Satin Doll to charity and it found it's way to Chicago, was painted black and renamed "The Beast'. Bill then had Mark McManus (who was still at Cigarette at that point) build a 35 Cigarette 'Dollar Bill' which was later sold to a land developer named Tommy Sperl. In 1987 Craig Barrie built Bill's final Cigarette, a 38 TG 'Lethal Weapon' . In 1994, Ron Doller (Gosh I miss Ron, he was a great guy) totatally redid Lethal Weopon. Bill kept it for a year then Ron sold it for him. Bill went on to a 63' Searay and now to a 68' SeaRay.

Barry

Barry-

hey thanks for all that information. I was only 7-9 years old at the time, but I remember always wanting to go to the White Marlin to see that boat. My father actually would get irritated because I would never shut up about it. I remember the teak cockpit and it being fuel injected. I believe it had "Kinsler Injection" written on the engine hatches. I also remember being off the coast of O.C. in our 24 Excailbur getting beat to death and it would come blasting by us like we were sitting still. We tried to run him a few times, but as you said...it was a wave crusher. He had a tan Formula as well correct?

Satin Doll & Lethal Weapon
 

Yes, it did have Kinsler injection. Not a Formula, but while waiting for Satin Doll to be completed, he bought a tan Sleekcraft and only used it a couple of times. I have never seen another Sleekcraft like it. If you remember a 28' Cigarette with no name in the early 80's, that was me. I used to rack store it at Bayside boatel.

We got numerous tickets in Satin Doll; the most notable for jumping the wake of the Captain Jack Bunting in the ocean and being at the same height as the people on the second deck of the boat. It was the most fun for $36.00 that we ever had.

I think I remember the Excaliber, what color was it? I also remember throttling Jenny's Express in the ocean when a jet boat tried to race us. He came off a wave and caved the whole front deck in. We turned around and stopped to see if they were okay and they were actually laughing hysterically.

This is a cool thread. Old School baby, love it!

I saw "The Beast" for sale out of Chicago about two years ago. Know where it went? That thing was a MONSTER!

didn't someone also have a all red 38 top gun ?

Satin Doll / The Beast
 

Tank - This link is still 'alive' so I don't know if it ever sold. In the description there is an error "It was built for a wealthy New York Businessman"' Should say '....Baltimore Businessman'..

Here is the link:

http://hometown.aol.com/boogiewizboat1/index.html

Yeah, I really like the old school stuff too and have been lucky enough at times to be in the company of Don Aronow, Brownie, Mark McManus, Craig Barrie.... To me there's just nothing like offshore.....

Red Top gun
 

There was an all red brand new Top Gun named Puritan (a blond haired guy who owned a swimming pool company) that ran out the inlet with us (You know how rough the OC inlet is!) we were in Jennys Express (41 Apache) and Lethal Weapon. I was throttling Jennys Express and was even with Puritan, we caught BIG air and were so close that as I throttled back I saw he kept the throttles down. We then heard a brand new C&G 572 grenade big time. We turned around to see if he was okay and followed him into West Ocean City where we all docked at the Captains Galley. We asked why he didn't throttle back and he said " I just got the boat, I didn't know I had to do that." He asked me to look at his boat. I climbed into the engine compartment, which had about ten quarts of oil in the bilge. I felt down the side of the engine block and felt where the rod kicked into the side of the block and bulged it out. Later Randy Garciga called us to ask what happened. We couldn't tell Randy anything but the truth, the guy just zinged the engines and grenaded the one. We felt bad that it voided the guys warranty, but we couldn't lie about, particularly to the guy who built engines for both Jenny's and Lethal.

There was also red 30' Scarab owned by a guy named Tom and of course Joe Horisk's red 38' Scarab Smokin' Joe and 43' Scarab Smokin' Joe. In the 43' Joe and I left the Indian River inlet a number of times at over 100 MPH! At its prime we hit 107 MPH in the 43'.

Barry

Barry-

our Excalibur had an orange hull, and white deck. Yeah Capt. Jack Bunting was vicious beast back then. I remember coming throught the inlet one time and it put a wake/wave over our bow that I thought was going to sink us. There was not a dry person in the boat.

I think I do remember your Cigarette. Did it sit on a rack outside facing the highway right outside the doors to the boatel? I spent a lot time at Bayside during that time as my father was rigging a 16 foot Baja with a 200 merc at the little marina at the top of the hill. I think it was the sleekcraft dealer??? Again i was only 8-9 years old.

thanks for the link to "The Beast" kinda of cool to see a pic as it is today after all these years.

OC Cigarettes
 

Yes, I remember your father's Excaliber, it was a nice looking boat. My 28 Cig was usually inside the boatel unless I was working on it on a rack or I was using it. If it was really a 28, yes it was mine. But there was also sit-down single engine 27Cigarette/Squadron 12 named 'Hustler' that sat on a rack with it's bow facing Route 50. Then in the mid - 80's I had a black hulled Cigarette/Squadron 12 with no no name. A guy named Kenny Boss bought the black 27 and used it on the Chesapeake Bay for a few years.

What a squirrel the guy that owned Puritan was. He lived on the Eastern Shore and kept the boat at his house. He always had trouble with the boat because he knew nothing about it. Later on I heard on the street that he hocked his wifes wedding ring for drugs!!!:cool-smiley-027::eek:

pictures boys, pictures

Now you are talking about the days that got me hooked on these things. When I was little I would ride my bike a few blocks down the street to Harbor Island just to look at these boats. I always told my friends that I would own a boat like them some day. All of my friends (except Purnell) thought that I was crazy and full of sh*t.

I remember Smokin' Joe, Jenny's Express, Silverado, Silver Dollar, Dollar Bill, Miss Tugo, Geronimo on occasion, Satin Doll, Leathal Weapon, Easy Rider and quite a few others. My favorite was Jenny's Express, especially after it got the wild yellow paint job. These boats are the reason that I am hooked today!

Jenny's Express. C'mon Barry, I know you must have a ton of pictures. Start scanning. :D

Will - Since at the time I was either riding in or throttling one of those boats and you were just a kid; does that make me an old guy?

I'll e-mail you a couple I have in the office- what's your e-mail again?

Barry

Is the "Lethal Weapon" TG referred to above the same one with BIG power that runs currently, or recently ran Lake Murray?

Lethal Weapon
 

If it is an 1987 TG, then yes it is. I sent Hot Duck some pictures to post, but that is the old paint scheme. When Ron Doller redid it in about 1994, it had a much more flowing, contemporary paint scheme.

Last I saw it was probably 2 years ago, when the owner trailered it to VA for the Jammin' on the James Poker Run. It says 'Lethal Weapon' in big scripted letters down the sides, and has big blower hatches.

wigginout here on OSO knows the owner well.

Here are some pics from OC Barry.

1. The boys giving a salute!

2. Dollar Bill Cigarette.

Two more from OC Barry.

1. Lethal Weapon Cigarette (and Lucky Strike Apache?).

2. Revenge Scarab.

Wow talking old school I was working the docks at harbour island in 86,87 went for my first ride with bill schaffer and jennys went with us a segal almost took my head off.

Ummmmmmmm. I would not say that you are old. Historic maybe, but not old. :D I'm just kidding. Besides, age is just a number!

I understand that Gary ran Jenny's full tilt or not at all. I think that he scared the sh*t out of more than one person from the stories that I have heard. I only met him once, but he was a great guy from what everybody says.

And about the seagulls, it's amazing how slow they are to get out of the way sometimes (from eating too much junk food on the boardwalk). They have left their fair share of scuff marks on numerous boats over the years! :D

oh this great keep them coming the presence these babies must of had back in the eighties would have been huge i want one!!

Its still here in Chicago.

Its getting fresh power right now.

Jettsdad
 

I'm The guy named Tom with the Scarab in OC and like Barry I'm on my 5th Cigarette and still go running off OC (Not as often as I like).I also rode on Bills 38 in the summer of 79.Back then that boat was somthing to see.I was 19 and had a purple 73 24 Nova and would run down the beach.Bill would always come blasting by me and 25 plus years+ later I remember it like yesterday and can remember the smell of that aviatin fuel as he blew by me.

Our place in O.C. was all the way at the end of 94th bayside. I could hear Satin Doll all the way from there when they went by in the ocean.

you mean it was a turbine

No, it ran on 100 octane aviation fuel.

Hi Tom, I remeber when you rode with us. How areyou? The last time we spoke, you were part owner of a company that fabricated refuse trucks, correct? At that time you had a 35' Mistress.

Barry

Jenny's Express
 

Well Will, you know the story of Jenny's Express' maiden voyage where Gary and I tripped and stuffed Jenny's Express completely underwater. We'll keep the third person's name out of it.

Especially on the first Jenny's Express (35 Cig w/race fairing & 540's), we had quite a few guests that broke their ankles. We ran all out. Gary really was competetive. Once when we were getting ready for the KW Poker Run, we were racing Jenny's against Bill in Lethal Weapon. Gary was mad because he had fresh power and Bill was still pulling him. Gary kept trimming the drives until he got past '6'. I said 'Gary, don't take the drives any higher.' Gary trimmed to '9' and the drive u-joint grenaded taking the drive and the trans with it. He just hated to lose.

The first picture was in Islamorda on the way back from the Everglades Key West Poker Run in 1987. From the left is me, Gary (now deceased) and Bill.

Notice in the picture of Lethal Weapon that Phil Meshinsky's Lucky Strike / PTM Express 47 Race Apache is in the backround. If I get some time when I get home tonight, I'll dig out some more pictures.

I would watch all of you guys go blasting up the coast off OC almost every weekend. I was hooked from watching those boats run. As Hot Duck did, I as well, would tell all of my friends I will have one of those one day. It was great hearing the boats well before you would see them. I remember one Memorial day weekend, we at the beach on 28th street and both Jenny's and Lethal weapon came running hard up the coast. I figured cool we will get to see them again soon as they come back. It wasn't but 5 minutes later and we heard them coming. I thought it was odd until I looked at the sky behind them. It was as balck as I ever had seen it. What I thought was fast running when they were going north, was nothing like watching them out run the storm!!!!!! People on the beach looked like they were holding ears from the noise and running from the impending storm. Thanks for the memories.....

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Who is that? Or which boat is that going to be? I guess the one Hot Duck buys after the Apache sells.....

RacerX
 

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Who did the fairing work? Did you have to build it from scratch?

these names are so eighties, where have all these boats ended up today?