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TJ Bart 10-22-2007 09:20 PM

39 Top Gun or 42 X
 
I am looking to trade up to a 39 Top Gun or 42 X with 700's. Is their anyone that has either of these boats and can shed any light on the differences between the two boats. Any advise would be helpful. Thanks TJ

Sea-Dated 10-23-2007 08:58 AM

3 feet.........

:drink::evilb::ernaehrung004::throw:

Seriously, both are staggered set ups, both will KILL big water, I think the 39 would be a little faster with the same engines. I am not sure if there is a difference besides the 3 feet.

masher44 10-23-2007 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by Sea-Dated (Post 2314288)
3 feet.........

:drink::evilb::ernaehrung004::throw:

I am not sure if there is a difference besides the 3 feet.


100K :hitfan:

blaniac 10-23-2007 09:33 AM

I think it was posted somewhere about the cabin height of the 42X being pretty low/short in comparison if that helps ?!?

Can't go wrong with either, but the "investment" is probably wiser on the 39 and there is a low hour beauty in the classifieds in the low 400's just wating for a new owner :cool:

dbhammer 10-23-2007 09:36 AM

cockpits both about same size, 42x's is deeper though. a little extra room in engine compartment and bow is where the extra 3 feet goes. there is some difference in bottom design. there is a very small 1" step aft of the 2nd larger step. supposed to provide a little more stern lift, ease of planning etc.. father has a 42x with 700's and been in a 39 before with 700's. 42x tops out at 98 for us. 39 does like 107-108 or so. 39 feels more agile and not really much smaller so if you really need the extra boat for the seas you boat in i'd say stick with the 39. both are sweet obviously.

blume 10-23-2007 09:01 PM

39' cigs for sale
 
3 Attachment(s)
no 700 boat, but I do have these 3, yellow boat has Merc. 1075's, blue boat on traler has Merc. 850 and the blue boat on the water has Merc. 600........all for sale

10x 10-24-2007 12:05 AM

The yellow 1075 boat looks like the one from Chicago.:D If it is...................... she's FAST !!

blume 10-24-2007 12:25 AM

in tx
 
it's in sherman texas now

tanner 10-24-2007 06:24 AM

I talked to a guy who worked for Cigarette up till May of last year, and he stated that the 42 hull is one of the worst hulls they make. (something with the steps and the center of gravity, and bad efficiency) might want to investigate a little.

offshoredrillin 10-24-2007 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by tanner (Post 2315431)
I talked to a guy who worked for Cigarette up till May of last year, and he stated that the 42 hull is one of the worst hulls they make. (something with the steps and the center of gravity, and bad efficiency) might want to investigate a little.

I've heard the xp's had issues but not the x's, still worth looking into.

ktron 10-24-2007 11:42 AM

Both are very nice rides. I would go with the 39 TG for a couple reasons. I think the 39 will be easier to sell and with the base 700/NXT package will run 100+ with what ever you put it in for a load, or if you opt for a bravo boat w/600's it will still run in the low to mid 90's. The 39 is very stable at speed and handles incredible. I personally would not do a 39TG with #6's in it because I have heard that they do not handle as well with the extra weight in the stern.

omerta one 10-24-2007 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by ktron (Post 2315793)
Both are very nice rides. I would go with the 39 TG for a couple reasons. I think the 39 will be easier to sell and with the base 700/NXT package will run 100+ with what ever you put it in for a load, or if you opt for a bravo boat w/600's it will still run in the low to mid 90's. The 39 is very stable at speed and handles incredible. I personally would not do a 39TG with #6's in it because I have heard that they do not handle as well with the extra weight in the stern.

I agree.

Tanner, saw you idleing around Pier 66 Sunday...new paint looks great!

blume 10-24-2007 02:48 PM

go for a ride
 

Originally Posted by ktron (Post 2315793)
Both are very nice rides. I would go with the 39 TG for a couple reasons. I think the 39 will be easier to sell and with the base 700/NXT package will run 100+ with what ever you put it in for a load, or if you opt for a bravo boat w/600's it will still run in the low to mid 90's. The 39 is very stable at speed and handles incredible. I personally would not do a 39TG with #6's in it because I have heard that they do not handle as well with the extra weight in the stern.

You should go for a ride in one because that extra weight BS is not correct. Besides the weight between a 700 and 850 or 1075 is not that much.

blume 10-24-2007 02:55 PM

weight
 
700sci Mercs...weight 1548 and the Merc. 850 and 1075sci's weight 1720, that boat with stagg. motors?? 520LB's extra??

Wild 10-24-2007 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by blume (Post 2316048)
700sci Mercs...weight 1548 and the Merc. 850 and 1075sci's weight 1720, that boat with stagg. motors?? 520LB's extra??

how much more does a #6 weigh compaired to a NXT???

Tbonepmp 10-24-2007 03:23 PM


Originally Posted by Wild (Post 2316056)
how much more does a #6 weigh compaired to a NXT???

I believe it is around 200lbs. more.
Regards

ktron 10-24-2007 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by blume (Post 2316048)
700sci Mercs...weight 1548 and the Merc. 850 and 1075sci's weight 1720, that boat with stagg. motors?? 520LB's extra??


I am not sure the exact #'s but there is a weight difference and a CG difference between the #6 39TG and the NXT 39TG. The 39TG with the NXT is a better balanced boat. The 850/1075 engines are heavier with (2) lyshom SC's compared to (1) on the 700. The # 6 drives are heavier than the NXT's. The 700 boats also have a full stagger as compared to the #6 style 39TG's which are staggered but not a full stagger.

I think the 39TG's with the big merc power and #6's are very nice rides. I am just expressing my opinion that I think a 39TG with the 700/NXT package is one of the best all around boats, 100+mph, Great handling, and Great Rough water capability.

DK

pm203 10-24-2007 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by ktron (Post 2316135)
I think the 39TG's with the big merc power and #6's are very nice rides. I am just expressing my opinion that I think a 39TG with the 700/NXT package is one of the best all around boats, 100+mph, Great handling, and Great Rough water capability.

DK

That is definetely the word on the street.

tanner 10-24-2007 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by omerta one (Post 2315826)
I agree.

Tanner, saw you idleing around Pier 66 Sunday...new paint looks great!



Thanks, one of these days I will be ALL done !!!

blume 10-24-2007 06:27 PM

go for a ride
 

Originally Posted by pm203 (Post 2316205)
That is definetely the word on the street.

y'all need to go for a ride in one and not listen to "word on the street", how many people do you think have been in a 39' Cig with 1075's???? by the way the boat got powerboat magazine "Offshore Boat Of The Year"

asg 10-24-2007 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by blume (Post 2316322)
y'all need to go for a ride in one and not listen to "word on the street", how many people do you think have been in a 39' Cig with 1075's???? by the way the boat got powerboat magazine "Offshore Boat Of The Year"

I have been in one.. Rides great... We ran up to 100 very easily and the backed off at 110.... Boat was brand new....

blume 10-24-2007 07:25 PM

weight....cg....and BS
 

Originally Posted by asg (Post 2316367)
I have been in one.. Rides great... We ran up to 100 very easily and the backed off at 110.... Boat was brand new....

OK, you know a lot about boats and own a 700 39 and a very nice looking one at that, with the bigger motor does the boat feel unbalanced to you? or to heavy in the rear? or not fly over the waves flat?....what is your thoughts on this subject?

TJ Bart 10-24-2007 07:59 PM

This is why OSO is so great. Thanks for all the input after talking to alot of people I am going to go with the 39.

blume 10-24-2007 11:58 PM

39'
 
the 39' is a great boat with 525's or 600's or 850's or 1075's....... and don't forget the 700 nxt boat

omerta one 10-25-2007 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by TJ Bart (Post 2316440)
This is why OSO is so great. Thanks for all the input after talking to alot of people I am going to go with the 39.

Call Phil (305-933-9988) he has probably driven every combination out there and will tell you exactly the way they run and why. BTW he also sells 'em!

OL40SVX 10-25-2007 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by TJ Bart (Post 2316440)
This is why OSO is so great. Thanks for all the input after talking to alot of people I am going to go with the 39.

Call Ocean Performance as well. They've been selling Cigarette's longer than anyone. They've sold bravo, nxt, and number six 39's.
(860)-388-6000.

LEOPAJM 10-25-2007 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by fountain40icbm (Post 2317193)
Call Ocean Performance as well. They've been selling Cigarette's longer than anyone. They've sold bravo, nxt, and number six 39's.
(860)-388-6000.


BTW .... whats the scoop with the green and black one ?

BLee 10-25-2007 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by asg (Post 2316367)
I have been in one.. Rides great... We ran up to 100 very easily and the backed off at 110.... Boat was brand new....

Sup Alex. :cool:

I've been in one as well. 39 w/850sci's & 6's. The boat rode perfect at every speed and handled Government Cut on Boat Show weekend like a champ. No porpose what so ever and insane acceleration.

Oh and the 42 that had issues with weight balance was the Tiger T/S w/6's....not the 42-X.

Sorry that's only first hand info, best I could do.:rolleyes:

OL40SVX 10-25-2007 01:32 PM


Originally Posted by LEOPAJM (Post 2317211)
BTW .... whats the scoop with the green and black one ?

It sold.

OSO 10-25-2007 02:35 PM

TJ,

I am taking delivery of a 39 with 700's in two weeks, it will be the new OSO boat. It is a Dealer Demo and I would be happy to give you a ride if you are around South Florida any time soon.

LEOPAJM 10-25-2007 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by fountain40icbm (Post 2317217)
It sold.

Cool ! I really thought that one was sharp ... contrary to popular belief ?!!?!??! :ernaehrung004:

omerta one 10-25-2007 04:56 PM

I liked it alot as well...just not enough with the blue motors.

OL40SVX 10-25-2007 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by LEOPAJM (Post 2317291)
Cool ! I really thought that one was sharp ... contrary to popular belief ?!!?!??! :ernaehrung004:

Yep same here, even though it needed green motors!! To bad Cigarette only had blue ones at the time.

BRD 10-25-2007 09:11 PM


Originally Posted by fountain40icbm (Post 2317439)
Yep same here, even though it needed green motors!! To bad Cigarette only had blue ones at the time.


Yeah , Ooooorrr ..... the slate , or carbon grey would work nicely as well !!??!?!!?!:cool-smiley-011:

OL40SVX 10-25-2007 10:18 PM

Ooooooooooooorrrrr Black could've worked as well!!

Cash Bar 10-25-2007 11:31 PM


Originally Posted by BLee (Post 2317214)
Sup Alex. :cool:

Tell me again why you are not down here for the boat show and my party !! :violent-smiley-045::ernaehrung004:

Tell everyone one EDock I said hello.

pm203 10-30-2007 10:04 AM

I did my research and found out that the 850,s as well as the 1075,s work very nicely in the 39. The Mercury boat is currently running 1075,s as we speak.

Tbonepmp 10-30-2007 10:29 AM


Originally Posted by TJ Bart (Post 2313971)
I am looking to trade up to a 39 Top Gun or 42 X with 700's. Is their anyone that has either of these boats and can shed any light on the differences between the two boats. Any advise would be helpful. Thanks TJ


What is your trade?
Regards

thisistank 11-03-2007 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by BLee (Post 2317214)

Oh and the 42 that had issues with weight balance was the Tiger T/S w/6's....not the 42-X.


Like Brandon said, when the first stepped 42's were built they ran great with bravos. When they put the sixes in 'em and pushed the motors forward due to the trannies it f*cked the CG up royally. Thus the birth of the 42X. the 42X changed the steps around to accept the new CG with big power/trannies/sixes. Its commonly mistakenly quoted that the "stepped 42" rides like crap. It was only in the above listed circs. The 42x is an AWESOME machine. And the stepped 42 with bravos is also a great running boat.

Tanner, if you go and confirm this with the gentlemen you spoke with I'm sure he'd agree.;)

drypipetiger 07-22-2018 10:56 AM

Hi Folks - Let us step ahead nearly 11 years. Please bring your current thoughts, opinions and experiences to the table, between the 39 and 42x with 700s. I have yet to ride in either but I believe one of the two will be my next choice. Thanks.


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