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DareDevil 01-27-2009 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by Kool-Aid Man (Post 2786860)
My other Cig TG the 88' didn't have one but my 90' does...not to mention I thought the overall weight changed over the years (at least as stated in the NADA under dry weight) and yes I realize the NADA could be wrong..i'm just going off what I read.

1988 - 9,800lbs
1989 - 11,000lbs
1990 - 9,800lbs
1991 - 10,000lbs
1992 - 11,000lbs
1993 - 10,500lbs
1994 - 11,000lbs
1995 - 11,000lbs
1996 - 11,000lbs
1997 - 11,000lbs
1998 - 11,000lbs

Just my .02 but a straight bottom is a straight bottom so if a hull is in good shape wouldn't you want a light one...and yes there are kevlar and one offs made

What this does'nt tell you is what drive and engine appl.,,,,,also your only talking 500 pounds +/- thats not even to worry about in my book.
In a straight V i would take the heaviest one !!!!!! twin 1200's and of we go. LOL:evilb:

Biggus 01-27-2009 06:30 PM

I've found the ride difference between the two to be quite substantial. I own a 1989 'Gun, blower motors, Was TRS now Konrad. Old style cabin.

My buddy restored a 1992 'Gun, blower motors, Konrad drives, pretty much the same everything except the cabin lay out.

My old '89 rides great, no porpoise, very little tab needed on flat water. The '92 'Gun needed quite a bit more tab to control porpoise in flat water. The boat felt much lighter in the nose.

The difference in weight in the cabin layout between the to is very noticeable when riding in one and hopping in the other. The early cabin has a solid floor under the V berth. The newer cabin has the trampoline like material under the v berth pad. I do not know for sure but I'd bet my '89 Gun could possibly weigh 200-300 more lbs in the nose most
likely delivering a better ride than the newer 1992 boat.

.02 -Kurt

birdog 01-28-2009 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by Biggus (Post 2787360)
I've found the ride difference between the two to be quite substantial. I own a 1989 'Gun, blower motors, Was TRS now Konrad. Old style cabin.

My buddy restored a 1992 'Gun, blower motors, Konrad drives, pretty much the same everything except the cabin lay out.

My old '89 rides great, no porpoise, very little tab needed on flat water. The '92 'Gun needed quite a bit more tab to control porpoise in flat water. The boat felt much lighter in the nose.

The difference in weight in the cabin layout between the to is very noticeable when riding in one and hopping in the other. The early cabin has a solid floor under the V berth. The newer cabin has the trampoline like material under the v berth pad. I do not know for sure but I'd bet my '89 Gun could possibly weigh 200-300 more lbs in the nose most
likely delivering a better ride than the newer 1992 boat.

.02 -Kurt

Exactly what i see with my 93 TG with Vs....A friends 87 with Vs rides much flatter than mine

Kool-Aid Man 01-28-2009 09:54 AM

[QUOTE=Biggus;2787360]

The early cabin has a solid floor under the V berth. The newer cabin has the trampoline like material under the v berth pad.

Hey Kurt what do you mean by this???? in my V berth I have a rectangular cut out that has rotating latches that allows me pop the piece out and there is a small storage compartment mybe 6inchs deep....what this trampoline like material you're referencing??

Thanks
B

DareDevil 01-28-2009 10:45 AM

[QUOTE=Kool-Aid Man;2787755]

Originally Posted by Biggus (Post 2787360)

The early cabin has a solid floor under the V berth. The newer cabin has the trampoline like material under the v berth pad.

Hey Kurt what do you mean by this???? in my V berth I have a rectangular cut out that has rotating latches that allows me pop the piece out and there is a small storage compartment mybe 6inchs deep....what this trampoline like material you're referencing??

Thanks
B

I think in the old ones they used plywood and the newer ones had lighter core,,like plasticcore or something similar, which saved weight and had the same structural benefits.

OldSchool 01-28-2009 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Kool-Aid Man (Post 2787755)



Hey Kurt what do you mean by this???? in my V berth I have a rectangular cut out that has rotating latches that allows me pop the piece out and there is a small storage compartment mybe 6inchs deep....what this trampoline like material you're referencing??

Thanks
B

On the older style cabins ('87-90), the berth is flat. Mine has a compartment under it. :cool:

When the next style cabin came out, the bed cushions are suspended on a webbed material. In my opinion, that newer style cabin was a better layout, but the berth sucks...especially if there are two people becuase you roll towards the center like being in a hammock.. A friend of mine cut that stuff out and installed plywood in there under the cushions. Works mucho better!:ernaehrung004:

Here is a picture of the ancient layout :D It's a '88


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