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Old 05-20-2009 | 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by LZH
Actually, I would venture to say that the BRAND being what it is, might be the reason the occupants all lived.
I am a huge Cigarette fan, but at 100 MPH it doesnt matter what you are in... aside from a canopy and that has even been deadly!
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Old 05-20-2009 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by TxHawk
I am a huge Cigarette fan, but at 100 MPH it doesnt matter what you are in... aside from a canopy and that has even been deadly!
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I agree 100% with you. The only impact the Cigarette brand had is it enabled them to do something this stupid. Would never have happened in a Bayliner.

Also..............there was some discussion that the crew were not wearing pfd/lifejackets. Anyone know if that has that ever been cleared up ?
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Old 05-20-2009 | 05:34 PM
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http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/p...ml#post2869992

Some recovery pics posted in the poker run section. I think this boat is done. IMO no way someone would survive that without a life jacket, much less 6 people
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Old 05-20-2009 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/p...ml#post2869992

Some recovery pics posted in the poker run section. I think this boat is done.
I'll guarantee someone will buy that thing and put it back together.
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Old 05-21-2009 | 06:58 AM
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I'll guarantee someone will buy that thing and put it back together.

Well we both know who can make it right......Lip-Ship.
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Old 05-21-2009 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by cigracing1
Well we both know who can make it right......Lip-Ship.
Well after seeing him revive that octopus boat back to 10/10 condition, I'd have to agree. You'd just have to present something he'd find interest in taking on, outside of just making it look the same as before.
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Old 05-21-2009 | 05:03 PM
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Looks like the hull is in perfect shape, but all the inside things must be redone....
What will happen now ? The insurance company will put it on hold then auction it for salvage or what ???
In Italy there will be an officer from the insurance inspect the damage and then, after 1- 2 months they will refund the money or if the damage is not big, pay for the repair.
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Old 05-21-2009 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by LZH
Actually, I would venture to say that the BRAND being what it is, might be the reason the occupants all lived.
... or BRAND being the reason it rolled. Hitting the water is the best thing that happens when you get ejected. Some one else landing on you and the boat running you over beging far worse scenarios. I witnessed the same thing happen to a full stagger 38 Fountain - hooked, stayed upright and no one ejected - same thing on a 47. Driver error being the cuplret in both incidents, but neither rolled. lately cigs have been hooking left and right. Don't get me wrong - I like 39 TGU's. They are probably my favorite boat out there, but I think my 42L is safer - certainly faster.

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Old 05-22-2009 | 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by aTX427
... or BRAND being the reason it rolled. Hitting the water is the best thing that happens when you get ejected. Some one else landing on you and the boat running you over beging far worse scenarios. I witnessed the same thing happen to a full stagger 38 Fountain - hooked, stayed upright and no one ejected - same thing on a 47. Driver error being the cuplret in both incidents, but neither rolled. lately cigs have been hooking left and right. Don't get me wrong - I like 39 TGU's. They are probably my favorite boat out there, but I think my 42L is safer - certainly faster.
Except they are built so piss poor they are just as likely to suffer catastrophic damage and come apart in pieces. Just don't go looking under the headliner and carpet, it will scare the crap out of you.

Before you even think of arguing. I own a fountain and I did take mine completely apart and rebuild the stringers and bulkheads because they were done so poorly. This was on a brand new custom ordered boat.

I was afraid it would break in half jumping 4 footers.
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Old 05-22-2009 | 09:25 AM
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2112,
So you're saying you had a custom ordered Fountain built that wasn't seaworthy ?
What was Fountains response to those charges ? I imagine the USCG would also be interested along with other industry regulators.
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