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Rik 06-19-2009 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by Stormrider (Post 2892381)
Even w/ the prop way back from where a bravo would be?
How much further back are the props than on a bravo?
Unfortunately, the last time i saw some ASD's was on a 53magnum... yrs back, and i remember them being quite long.

And how about from a fresh start cost wise, bravo vs asd6.

On a 53' Magnum they are long but so is the boat and these are not the same drive units. We make 11 different sizes ranging from the ones here to the largest that weighs over 2,500 lbs each. The 53' Magnum has a pair of 1,000 hp Cat diesels putting 3,500 lbs of torque to the water.

Our #7M is 4" longer than a Bravo on a standoff box. Not that much difference.

Cost wise, one has to compare the whole package as the Arneson comes with a standoff box, external steering and such so adding all that into the cost of a Bravo we are priced better. List is $23K for the #7M with everything. Add up what the Bravo XR with the HD Gimbal, the standoff box, the upgraded shafts, drive showers, billet caps, external steering and on and on cost for a Bravo and the cost will surpass the Arneson Kit and not be as strong nor fast. Oh did I mention warranty on the Bravo setup?

Comanche3Six 06-19-2009 07:28 PM


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The new setups are much cleaner and easier to install also.
They look great!!!!!!!!

aTX427 06-19-2009 08:38 PM

I remember speaking to an Arnerson rep at the Miami show a few years back. He mentioned that you need to have the transom square with the hull, in other words they will not work with notch transoms, typical on Fountains. Is that true? Figured the 38 gun and / or a Tiger with a bravo retrofit would be a hell of a setup. I would do it for the tail alone.

tblrklakemo 06-19-2009 09:57 PM


Originally Posted by aTX427 (Post 2892599)
I remember speaking to an Arnerson rep at the Miami show a few years back. He mentioned that you need to have the transom square with the hull, in other words they will not work with notch transoms, typical on Fountains. Is that true? Figured the 38 gun and / or a Tiger with a bravo retrofit would be a hell of a setup. I would do it for the tail alone.

post #4 has a notch.....im sure its more a product of a particular hull.....than all boats with notch hulls.

Stormrider 06-20-2009 10:48 AM

Rik, thanks.

Rik 06-20-2009 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by aTX427 (Post 2892599)
I remember speaking to an Arnerson rep at the Miami show a few years back. He mentioned that you need to have the transom square with the hull, in other words they will not work with notch transoms, typical on Fountains. Is that true? Figured the 38 gun and / or a Tiger with a bravo retrofit would be a hell of a setup. I would do it for the tail alone.

I believe that was reference to a Stagger setup where the notch is an area of concern for a stagger Arneson. fortunately with the #7M's for example, the area of concern in the notch is greatly reduced to about 2" of height.

On a normal side by side the notch does not represent an issue at all.

I cannot think of a boat today that does not have a notch of some size. The Arnesons are installed and work well on these boats and the only setup with a little concern is the stagger.

Rik 06-20-2009 02:57 PM

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Example of a sie by side

aTX427 06-21-2009 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by Rik (Post 2892948)
Example of a sie by side

So do you have to mount the drives higher up to conpensate for the notch, as one would with bravo / #6 installs?

Rik 06-21-2009 06:57 PM


Originally Posted by aTX427 (Post 2893464)
So do you have to mount the drives higher up to conpensate for the notch, as one would with bravo / #6 installs?

No, actually the engines will sit about 1-2" lower than a Bravo Setup. A #6 has a larger X than a Bravo so the engine would be even lower which helps the CG and helps the boats tendency to pitch roll.

seafordguy 06-22-2009 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by Rik (Post 2891975)
you will find plenty of people who have been mangled from a Bravo, an Outboard and everything else. :eek:

NO **** - I sliced my side all the way through into the bone last summer trying to moon someone - luckily the scar isn't HORRIBLE, and this was a couple weeks after a friend cut his knee all the way to the bone - 19 stitches.....

I should have thrown that propeller away out of spite....


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