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RMPRam 10-12-2009 09:31 PM

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I just checked on my hull # and my 1984 is #44.

kvogt 10-13-2009 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by 86Rette (Post 2971851)
I think it would be fun to have a flatdeck reunion. Its always interesting to see how guys have modified the older boats to personalise them and improve performance. I think there is 1 more flatdeck in west mi. area, it is your sister ship its paint scheme is almost identicle to yours.

If you are referring to Mark's cig, my brother bought a cig from Mich that is almost identical to Mark's. He doesn't have many pictures of it before he tore it all apart.

Kris

86Rette 10-13-2009 07:13 PM

Kris; yes I was refering to Marks, that certianly looks like the boat. It looked like it needed a little TLC the last time I saw it,I believe in Jim Velakos shop a few years ago.

jaysflatdeck 10-13-2009 08:20 PM

can you guys tell me what # in the sin# im lookin for to see what # mine is

thanks jay

kvogt 10-14-2009 08:03 AM

Look at your registration or the upper right corner of your transom for the HIN number. It starts with CRT38 then the next 3 digits are your hull number.

Kris

jaysflatdeck 10-14-2009 07:43 PM

thanks kris I looked at my hin# mine is # 42 1984

DisturbedVelo22 10-14-2009 09:20 PM

nice boats!

86Rette 10-15-2009 01:48 PM

RMPRam; great looking 90mph. paint scheme, I am interested in your exhaust system. Whos headers and tail pipes, are they wet or dry. I am running Gil offshores dry and I am considering the same type of system you have running the exhaust below the waterline. I like the way yours look, but I am concerned about the stereo volume on plane. I love the sound but my wife,not so much !

RMPRam 10-15-2009 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 86Rette (Post 2973565)
RMPRam; great looking 90mph. paint scheme, I am interested in your exhaust system. Whos headers and tail pipes, are they wet or dry. I am running Gil offshores dry and I am considering the same type of system you have running the exhaust below the waterline. I like the way yours look, but I am concerned about the stereo volume on plane. I love the sound but my wife,not so much !

The headers are Eickert, when he had his original company.
The tailpipes are custom made out of 4" stainless tubing. I bought some 180 deg., 90deg. and straight ss tubing from Burns Stainless and a good friend, that builds race car cages, fab'd the tailpipe set. The tailpipes are wet and with all 4 "dumping" between the drives and pointing downward, the noise is greatly reduced without loss of any performance. They are approx. 6" under water at idle, so the noise is just a "gurgling" sound. The only time that they are a little bit loud is when I'm getting on plane. After that the noise is within acceptable limits for any state.
If you send me your e-mail address I will forward several more pictures to you.

DisturbedVelo22 10-15-2009 08:54 PM


Originally Posted by RMPRam (Post 2973732)
The headers are Eickert, when he had his original company.
The tailpipes are custom made out of 4" stainless tubing. I bought some 180 deg., 90deg. and straight ss tubing from Burns Stainless and a good friend, that builds race car cages, fab'd the tailpipe set. The tailpipes are wet and with all 4 "dumping" between the drives and pointing downward, the noise is greatly reduced without loss of any performance. They are approx. 6" under water at idle, so the noise is just a "gurgling" sound. The only time that they are a little bit loud is when I'm getting on plane. After that the noise is within acceptable limits for any state.
If you send me your e-mail address I will forward several more pictures to you.

Ha ha, you could do that if he had email!:throw: <---(my dad on the computer)

86Rette 10-16-2009 08:06 AM

Wiseguy !

86Rette 10-16-2009 08:17 AM

Mark, is your int. original ? I bought my boat in 1989 and the sun deck was cracking back then. Rick

MrCIG 10-16-2009 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by 86Rette (Post 2974026)
Mark, is your int. original ? I bought my boat in 1989 and the sun deck was cracking back then. Rick

Some of it was redone before I bought it. I have a couple seams that are starting to fail. It is hard to find good interior guys that know how to tuck and roll. And the exact vinyl is no longer available.

Mark

MILD THUNDER 10-16-2009 09:51 PM


Originally Posted by MrCIG (Post 2974118)
Some of it was redone before I bought it. I have a couple seams that are starting to fail. It is hard to find good interior guys that know how to tuck and roll. And the exact vinyl is no longer available.

Mark

Hey Mark, I saw some upholstery Scotty Duvall did to a old hustler, tuck and roll, and looked great. His shop is off I-94 and 249 in portage. Old school boat racer guy.

MrCIG 10-17-2009 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 2974415)
Hey Mark, I saw some upholstery Scotty Duvall did to a old hustler, tuck and roll, and looked great. His shop is off I-94 and 249 in portage. Old school boat racer guy.

Thanks Joe, I have seen his work he is pretty good.

Mark

MrCIG 10-17-2009 01:07 PM

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Here are some pictures of Ryans boat he asked me to post for him.

Update dash,

And new race hatches which he built and had glassed and painted.

Mark

MrCIG 10-17-2009 01:11 PM

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Picture of mine Ryan took Last season

jaysflatdeck 10-17-2009 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by MrCIG (Post 2974673)
Here are some pictures of Ryans boat he asked me to post for him.

Update dash,

And new race hatches which he built and had glassed and painted.

Mark

do you any pics of the motors that thing looks SICK

DisturbedVelo22 10-17-2009 08:01 PM

Boy he did a nice job restoring crazy horse. That interior looks great!

ManBayBoatClub 10-17-2009 08:49 PM


Originally Posted by MrCIG (Post 2974673)
Here are some pictures of Ryans boat he asked me to post for him.

Update dash,

And new race hatches which he built and had glassed and painted.

Mark

That's a sharp looking boat :) Lovin' the hatches.

2112 10-17-2009 11:53 PM


Originally Posted by MrCIG (Post 2974674)
Picture of mine Ryan took Last season

Do you have that picture with the last little bit of nose on it? Your boat is so sweet, I would like to have that picture in my archives. :drink:
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sonic700 10-18-2009 05:58 AM

thanks guys i will get some motor pics when we get back to the building. i had the engines out over the winter and painted them, built up the trans, and put the blowers back on.

The interior is still holding up but plan to pull it out over the winter and put some more color into it and maybe build my own bucket seats.

sorry for not getting the nose of the boat in there hard to drive and get a good picture too.

86Rette 10-18-2009 07:07 PM

Ryan; I like your race hatches, Its cool retro. theme . The boat looks like a Cigarette again (without the arch) instead of a sonic wanabe. I can see youve done alot of work , it looks great. Rick

2112 10-18-2009 09:06 PM


Originally Posted by sonic700 (Post 2974903)

sorry for not getting the nose of the boat in there hard to drive and get a good picture too.

You got that while driving? I can't even think of taking a pic at that time, don't apologize. :drink:
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sonic700 10-19-2009 08:16 AM

thanks again its great to see all the flat decks. im in if everyone wants to get together and do a flat deck/old school run in michigan indiana it does not matter to me. i have another one of marks and this one is the whole boat. ill send it to him.
ryan

DisturbedVelo22 10-24-2009 01:07 AM


Originally Posted by kvogt (Post 2971970)
If you are referring to Mark's cig, my brother bought a cig from Mich that is almost identical to Mark's. He doesn't have many pictures of it before he tore it all apart.

Kris

Check out the pace boat at around 2:30, same boat?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_6vdTEChas

kvogt 10-27-2009 08:35 AM

It does look like the same boat.

Kris

Jamie B. 10-28-2009 09:22 PM


Originally Posted by 86Rette (Post 2971793)
what happened to the fifth mi. city flatdeck, RussSR1?

He and the boat are still around, he was using it mainly around the Milwaukee area in the summer of '08, which is the last I spoke with him.

J-Bonz 10-29-2009 10:05 PM


Originally Posted by Jamie B. (Post 2981513)
He and the boat are still around, he was using it mainly around the Milwaukee area in the summer of '08, which is the last I spoke with him.

Never seen that one on the river.... But then again, I wasnt down there that much last summer.
Jr.

DisturbedVelo22 10-30-2009 11:19 PM

So flatdeck or not, who's down for a cig fun run next summer?

MrCIG 10-31-2009 09:34 AM

I am in. Should be fun

Mark:drink:

jaysflatdeck 10-31-2009 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by DisturbedVelo22 (Post 2982890)
So flatdeck or not, who's down for a cig fun run next summer?

were do you think you might have the run at

DisturbedVelo22 10-31-2009 10:10 PM

We'd probably have to make some sort of a sign up list and maybe see what would be a central location or where the majority of the boats would be coming from. Or does anyone know if there will be an offshore race in MI city IN again next year? It might be fun to all meet up somewhere a nice distance from Michigan City then all cruise to watch the race? Opinions?

sonic700 11-01-2009 03:53 PM

im in for the run. last i heard they have a 3 year contract to race out of michigan city.
ryan

kvogt 11-02-2009 08:16 AM

I'm in for a flatdeck run. I just have to get it all back together first.
Kris

86Rette 11-04-2009 08:15 PM

Kris; your surface drive setup is interesting. What horsepower, cruise and top speeds are you seeing? I looked at arnesons as a viable alterative to my constant TRS meltdowns but the cost of converting seemed high considering the value of my boat at the time. The Konrad alterative has been a cost effective way to build in dependability and my performance has improved. I am still playing with props ,my slip nos. are higher than I would like.

kvogt 11-05-2009 08:07 AM

86Rette

I was running about 800hp and seeing a top speed of 90 mph. I think 60mph was around 3600rpms. I was in the same boat as you - I put the bigger engines in with the TRS drives and smoked 4 drives in one summer. When I looked for options these used Arnesons seemed to be the best choice. Konrads were either not out yet or not popular yet when I looked.

I have the boat apart right know, I'm hoping for a little more speed when it gets back together.

Kris

86Rette 11-05-2009 09:45 PM

Kris, my motors are supercharged 468s dynoed at 600hp.I cruise at about 3600 as you but at 56 to 58 depending on load and best top speed of 84 gps at 5400 in 3 to 5 foot waves, 2 people low fuel. A rush that never seems to get old! Rick.

MILD THUNDER 11-05-2009 10:09 PM


Originally Posted by 86Rette (Post 2986322)
Kris, my motors are supercharged 468s dynoed at 600hp.I cruise at about 3600 as you but at 56 to 58 depending on load and best top speed of 84 gps at 5400 in 3 to 5 foot waves, 2 people low fuel. A rush that never seems to get old! Rick.


Id say you are doing very well with 600HP mills and TRS getting 84 out of it. A buddy of mine with a Top Gun with konrads and 800's isnt doing a whole lot better.

86Rette 11-05-2009 10:28 PM

Mild Thunder, I am running the Konrads, 2.25 inches shorter than the stock TRS. Merc. labbed bravo 31 four blades seem to perform the best so far. Rick


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