trs vs bravo

Reply Subscribe

Thread Tools

06-10-2010 | 07:17 AM

#21

cigrocket

Registered

Joined: Feb 2004

Posts: 2,590

Likes: 173

From: Endicott, NY

Quote:

Originally Posted by frickstyle

My Konrads showed up!

Prettiest part of the boat so far, that won't be on it for quite some time!

Anyways, if you have the coin, Konrads are great because you can bolt them on (no transom changes), prop selection is still there (and affordable), it's a great company, and they can handle alot of abuse.

I asked a friend with a Cafe why he went to Bravo instead of Konrad. His opinion was that Konrads had just come out, he wasn't too sure of the drive or the company, bravos were more efficient, and he could get away from all the TRS stuff (including transmissions) so replacement parts and rebuilds were more realistic.

I went with Konrad because:
1.) Positive feedback from the boating community (you guys!)
2.) No transom modification, engine placement, x dimension mods
3.) Power handling is greater than a Bravo, peace of mind boating. I want to go boating everytime out, not plan on fixing Bravos and spending more money in the long run.

I had the oppportunity to go #3s but it was just too much fooling around to get them on the boat. I have a target date for this project, I would have never reached it if I went that route.....

You will bw happy with the Konrads, I was happy when I got them for my Mistress. Great prop selections with the Konrads, shorter X dimension which usually means more speed, becasue Cigarette used a very conservative x dimension on TRS Setups. Konrad has great customer service. you won't be sorry. Good luck with your project.

06-10-2010 | 07:23 AM

#22

Biggus

Registered

Joined: Apr 2001

Posts: 6,305

Likes: 36

From: Naples, Maine

Thanks Justin!

Here's a shot of my old Top Gun. It was a TRS boat, we converted it to the Konrad 540 PRS system spring 2004. I'm in my sixth season, no issues.

Kurt

06-10-2010 | 07:52 AM

#23

UrbanDisturbance

Registered

Joined: Oct 2009

Posts: 658

Likes: 0

From: Splendora, TX

How about Arneson Surface Drives on a flat bottom Cigarette? I don't know how good they perform on flat bottom Cigarette, but I would think they would be the strongest. You'll also have a rooster tail.

06-10-2010 | 07:54 AM

#24

frickstyle

Registered

Joined: Nov 2007

Posts: 4,029

Likes: 510

From: Cleveland, Ohio

Thanks again for all your help Kurt. Nice looking setup.

On another note, what's the difference beteen hyd steering (the cylinders) being located outside of the drive vs. in between the drives?

I love the look of having them inside, however:
1. Is there any real advantage?
2. Can you switch from out to in?

Also, is the trim reservoir an add-on for the Konrad 540 package or does it come with it? I didn't tear into the box yet.

06-10-2010 | 09:32 AM

#25

humpster

Thread Starter

Registered

Joined: Oct 2009

Posts: 163

Likes: 0

those konrads look great and that is in my plans to put them on in the future and replace the trs should be a solid package

06-10-2010 | 11:55 AM

#26

Biggus

Registered

Joined: Apr 2001

Posts: 6,305

Likes: 36

From: Naples, Maine

Quote:

Originally Posted by frickstyle

If there's room to mount the steering cylinders inside of the drives it makes for a better installation as the K-Planes can get in the way and drive the brackets higher than desired. You want the cylinders mounted even with the transom assembly hinge pins (crank centerline). I've seen a few older Cigarettes with the cylinders mounted outside the drives but it also requires a special top cap to attach the rams to.

I've ran my drives spinning in and out many times over the years. It carries the nose better spinning in and is a little faster but docking manners suffer. Presently, I'm spinning out.

The billett drive lube reservoirs are included with all new Konrad hi performance drive packages.

Feel free to give me a shout if I can help in any way.

Kurt 715-410-0735