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sunsation96 08-09-2010 08:57 AM

How much do you know?
 
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Now that I have your attention:lolhit: I don't know much about Cigarette but do you pro's know if the cabin goes past what is shown in the picture thanks for the help and if you may know of any for sale please post links of any 30's for sale thanks alot! I think I may of found them all but there may be more out there.

BLee 08-09-2010 09:27 AM

That's the true "Cover Girl" cabin in your picture. You can unzip that piece that has the logo, & there's room up to the Vee for storage, but it's not upholstered, or "finished out" past the logo.

There's the "Extended Cover Girl" layout as well, which has a "bed" that goes all the way to the vee, instead of being cut off like the Cover Girl layout you have pictured.

On a Mystique, it's not going to make much of a difference with the boat being 30ft long, no matter which layout you choose.

sunsation96 08-09-2010 09:56 AM


Originally Posted by BLee (Post 3177999)
That's the true "Cover Girl" cabin in your picture. You can unzip that piece that has the logo, & there's room up to the Vee for storage, but it's not upholstered, or "finished out" past the logo.

There's the "Extended Cover Girl" layout as well, which has a "bed" that goes all the way to the vee, instead of being cut off like the Cover Girl layout you have pictured.

On a Mystique, it's not going to make much of a difference with the boat being 30ft long, no matter which layout you choose.

Thanks for the help Blee! That sucks it stops there! I need the full cabin for when we stay the night.

PromoProducts-BP 08-09-2010 10:42 AM

That cabin in the picture is clean as a pin!

sunsation96 08-09-2010 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by PromoProducts-BP (Post 3178048)
That cabin in the picture is clean as a pin!

That is what I thought nice to see someone taking care of a boat.

Sick Stinger 08-09-2010 11:06 AM

So sun what re you looking for?What year price point location a factor? I know many will help you out just need a few blacks filled.
-Mike

thisistank 08-09-2010 11:13 AM

Buy a cafe racer! Better bang for the buck, better rough water ride (heavier & 5' longer), way better cabin (true full cabin with bed, head, table, cooler, etc), timeless lines...great boat!

MiniHawk 08-09-2010 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by thisistank (Post 3178078)
Buy a cafe racer! Better bang for the buck, better rough water ride (heavier & 5' longer), way better cabin (true full cabin with bed, head, table, cooler, etc), timeless lines...great boat!

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o32113-en.html

this one ^ he should get :)

dreamer 08-09-2010 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by MiniHawk (Post 3178147)

no hyd steer and merc 502s

a 99 35 gun mint with 500efis and trailer only 160 hours went for 70k last month

sunsation96 08-09-2010 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by Sick Stinger (Post 3178070)
So sun what re you looking for?What year price point location a factor? I know many will help you out just need a few blacks filled.
-Mike

Okay, here is the scoop on what I am looking for the story starts here:
I found a 1986 Mistress 35' that was spotless, I was thinking I could bring it up to date over time. But started to think this will cost me as much as one that is good to go. Storage is an issue around us, most places only do up to 32'.
We are trying to start a family and I don't want to be married to a huge monthly payment. So I thought the perfect boat would be a 30' cig! nice boat! fast! and I would think rides great too! So began the search for a 30' somwhere near the 2000's.
Now I am not your average powerboat owner I don't need huge engines I like to just cruise. I want to pay this off and own it for a long period of time. I just want to turn the key and go. I am looking to spend less than 75k on this boat.

sunsation96 08-09-2010 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by dreamer (Post 3178176)
no hyd steer and merc 502s

a 99 35 gun mint with 500efis and trailer only 160 hours went for 70k last month

I hope you are joking that is a great price I think:eek:

sunsation96 08-09-2010 01:23 PM

This is the only one that I found and it seems to be nice. I still think it is a tad high in the price IMO WMF's was a great deal. If I remember this boat was @ 90k when it came for sale but I could be wrong.
http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o29903-en.html

Sick Stinger 08-09-2010 01:36 PM

Ask arouns i think the only issue with the 30 besides the footage was a porpuse issue but i could be wrong. Do a little digging it may come up.
-Mike

sunsation96 08-09-2010 01:49 PM


Originally Posted by Sick Stinger (Post 3178202)
Ask arouns i think the only issue with the 30 besides the footage was a porpuse issue but i could be wrong. Do a little digging it may come up.
-Mike

Thanks for the help, I am still digging the older one the price the size but the engines would need to be gone thru the drives won't last forever I don't know the other issue with the 30' is there are none out there.

thisistank 08-09-2010 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by sunsation96 (Post 3178206)
Thanks for the help, I am still digging the older one the price the size but the engines would need to be gone thru the drives won't last forever I don't know the other issue with the 30' is there are none out there.

They are pretty rare is the problem. Only a hand full of T/S and straight bottom 30's made. That yellow/blue one is a great looking boat. Figure down the road at some point (hopefully 150-200 hrs from now) you'll have to go through the motors. Drives are relative - meaning, they will treat you right as long as you treat them right.

kreed 08-09-2010 02:28 PM

Have you looked into a 31 Cig Bullet at all? They made them from 88 to 93. Heavier than a Mystique and a wider beam! Lots of cabin space with and inclosed head. I have one and they are great rough water boats.

kreed 08-09-2010 02:39 PM

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sunsation96 08-09-2010 02:42 PM


Originally Posted by thisistank (Post 3178222)
They are pretty rare is the problem. Only a hand full of T/S and straight bottom 30's made. That yellow/blue one is a great looking boat. Figure down the road at some point (hopefully 150-200 hrs from now) you'll have to go through the motors. Drives are relative - meaning, they will treat you right as long as you treat them right.

Thanks for the information you seen to know a little bit about Cig's:lolhit: Who knows the search is still under way whatever I buy I want it to be the right one for my family

sunsation96 08-09-2010 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by kreed (Post 3178232)
Have you looked into a 31 Cig Bullet at all? They made them from 88 to 93. Heavier than a Mystique and a wider beam! Lots of cabin space with and inclosed head. I have one and they are great rough water boats.

No I have not looked at them yours is stunning amazing clean not dated and classic all rolled into one boat! Do you have any cabin pictures?

Sick Stinger 08-09-2010 03:04 PM

Want a 35 cafe new paint, rebuilt motors trannys and drives. Im sick and tired of it right about now after the paint guy and motor guy next week nxt week next week BS......
-Mike

kreed 08-09-2010 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by sunsation96 (Post 3178249)
No I have not looked at them yours is stunning amazing clean not dated and classic all rolled into one boat! Do you have any cabin pictures?

I can take some for you, no problem.

sunsation96 08-09-2010 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by Sick Stinger (Post 3178280)
Want a 35 cafe new paint, rebuilt motors trannys and drives. Im sick and tired of it right about now after the paint guy and motor guy next week nxt week next week BS......
-Mike

Your so close don't give up now! Post some pictures

sunsation96 08-09-2010 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by kreed (Post 3178295)
I can take some for you, no problem.

Thanks! your boat appears to be well taken care of. What year did they stop production?

kreed 08-09-2010 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by sunsation96 (Post 3178299)
Thanks! your boat appears to be well taken care of. What year did they stop production?

I was told 1992, but Ive seen a couple 93 for sale over the last year. Maybe they were leftovers, I dont know. Mine is classic looking but very clean. Fresh 525's with 50 Hrs on them. They now make 575HP. Fresh water boat, original gel coat,lots of factory options including cable TV hook up, ect...I was actually thinkin about that stars and stipes Cafe that someone posted pics a few posts back. I love this boat, but bigger is better...right????:lolhit:

509 SC 08-09-2010 08:29 PM

Sunsation 96, That's a clean looking Mystique set up nice with the upgraded engines, there's something to be said for a "newer" vintage boat. Looks like a big step up from thr cabin to the cockpit, I like the boat! Steve

sunsation96 08-09-2010 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by 509 SC (Post 3178582)
Sunsation 96, That's a clean looking Mystique set up nice with the upgraded engines, there's something to be said for a "newer" vintage boat. Looks like a big step up from thr cabin to the cockpit, I like the boat! Steve

I thought it was also a clean boat, I wonder how many hours are on it. But then I see the 35's and love the look! I give up! Maybe in the next few months a few more will come for sale

4195 08-10-2010 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by sunsation96 (Post 3178627)
I thought it was also a clean boat, I wonder how many hours are on it. But then I see the 35's and love the look! I give up! Maybe in the next few months a few more will come for sale

Buy Kreeds boat it is mint and you will save $20k that's a lot of diapers!

Magic Medicine 08-10-2010 08:31 AM

Jon,

I really like that Yellow 30' you posted in this thread. Seems like a great boat for you. My advise as a father of a 4 year old
is to get the boat before your wife gets preganant or things could change for the worst. I also suggest getting one of the newer boats, as it should make it easier to get financing and insurance.

sunsation96 08-10-2010 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by 4195 (Post 3178871)
Buy Kreeds boat it is mint and you will save $20k that's a lot of diapers!

I did not know it was for sale:party-smiley-004: You are right it seems real clean and that is what I like!

sunsation96 08-10-2010 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by Magic Medicine (Post 3178918)
Jon,

I really like that Yellow 30' you posted in this thread. Seems like a great boat for you. My advise as a father of a 4 year old
is to get the boat before your wife gets preganant or things could change for the worst. I also suggest getting one of the newer boats, as it should make it easier to get financing and insurance.

Thanks Magic, As far as the financing goes I was approved in less than 30 min for a 35' Mistress that is 26 years old and had insurance with in 15 minutes quoted @ $733/year which was cheaper than my Sunsation:coolcowboy: I don't know which way to go right now the thought a 35' is sweet a real 35' there is a few Cafe's that I really like but that depends on what the price will be. It seems the 30's are like finding a unicorn chilling in the woods in the winter:lolhit:

Magic Medicine 08-10-2010 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by sunsation96 (Post 3179026)
Thanks Magic, As far as the financing goes I was approved in less than 30 min for a 35' Mistress that is 26 years old and had insurance with in 15 minutes quoted @ $733/year which was cheaper than my Sunsation:coolcowboy: I don't know which way to go right now the thought a 35' is sweet a real 35' there is a few Cafe's that I really like but that depends on what the price will be. It seems the 30's are like finding a unicorn chilling in the woods in the winter:lolhit:

Agreed the 30 are RARE, like your analogy!!!! Who you using for financing and insureance?? My current insurance source wants nothing to do with a boat that a #1 on the side:bsflag::angry-smiley-038:

sunsation96 08-10-2010 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by Magic Medicine (Post 3179045)
Agreed the 30 are RARE, like your analogy!!!! Who you using for financing and insureance?? My current insurance source wants nothing to do with a boat that a #1 on the side:bsflag::angry-smiley-038:

The credit union is MSGCU Michigan Schools and Government Credit Union and the insurance is Aikmen and Ormand in Chesterfield MI and the shop around for you:coolcowboy: 586-949-5956

kreed 08-10-2010 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by sunsation96 (Post 3179013)
I did not know it was for sale:party-smiley-004: You are right it seems real clean and that is what I like!

My boat actually was not for sale, but if I found a Cafe(stars and stripes) or TG really reasonably priced, I may sell mine. PM me if interested in a price and list of options/upgrades. 80+ MPH boat on a trailer and a new air dock.

sunsation96 08-10-2010 01:19 PM

Well so far today I found out NADA hates boats!:party-smiley-004: Question if I buy a boat out of state who's sale tax do I pay? Again thanks for all the help

tknnd 08-10-2010 03:27 PM


Originally Posted by sunsation96 (Post 3179174)
Well so far today I found out NADA hates boats!:party-smiley-004: Question if I buy a boat out of state who's sale tax do I pay? Again thanks for all the help

It depends on the states. Some states have agreements where you pay the lesser of the two in state and the remaining when you get home. Others you pay the entirety in your home state.

seafordguy 08-10-2010 04:57 PM


Originally Posted by sunsation96 (Post 3179174)
Well so far today I found out NADA hates boats!:party-smiley-004: Question if I buy a boat out of state who's sale tax do I pay? Again thanks for all the help

Don't pay any of them until they catch you - ****ing crooks.....

kreed 08-10-2010 05:21 PM


Originally Posted by seafordguy (Post 3179366)
Don't pay any of them until they catch you - ****ing crooks.....

DITTO !!!!!

rlj676 08-10-2010 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by sunsation96 (Post 3179174)
Well so far today I found out NADA hates boats!:party-smiley-004: Question if I buy a boat out of state who's sale tax do I pay? Again thanks for all the help

You will pay MI sales tax, shouldn't pay any other states. (I think you're in MI obviously)

Some states may have a reciprocity deal, where if you buy from a dealer you can pay MI sales tax to them I believe.

Also, some CU's will accept a survey rather than NADA if you are struggling w/ value.

You must be doing a fairly short term loan for them not to balk at financing an 80's boat. Michigan First is another fairly easy to deal w/ local CU.

LZH 08-10-2010 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by kreed (Post 3179393)
DITTO !!!!!

Coundnt argee more...I've had mine for 3 years and havent regstered boat OR trailer.

:drink:

kreed 08-10-2010 08:25 PM


Originally Posted by LZH (Post 3179501)
Coundnt argee more...I've had mine for 3 years and havent regstered boat OR trailer.

:drink:

Hahhahaa, thats awesome.


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