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SS930 04-06-2011 05:53 AM


Originally Posted by Rik (Post 3369464)
?? A stagger is a stagger and both can have the same propellershaft centerline so there is no difference in that respect.

The choice comes down to the amount of power the application has, nothing more nothing less.

And the new ASD8 drives are not angled either.

Rik,
If both are both side by side engine configurations and one can be angled in together towards the center and the other can't, you dont feel there's a performance advantage there???

BTW, I was not aware the new ASD8's couldn't be angled. Why the change?

kvogt 04-06-2011 07:19 AM

First thanks for the comments.

The Arnesons do run well on the boat. It comes down to putting the right props on. With today's modern props the Arnesons are better choice than they were years ago.

Arneson drives take very little horsepower to drive and they don't break.

On the ASD8 vs ASD7 debate, I believe the ASD8s are much heavier and the installation is more complicated. Rik has done a great job of packaging the bravo conversion unit.

Service and support from Arneson and Twin Disk is far above what I normally see in the marine industry.

UrbanDisturbance 04-06-2011 07:50 AM

I am sure a lot of you have seen the Youtube video of the Yellow Cigarette Top Gun from Russia with Arnesons. It took about 20 seconds for them to get on plane. Is that a characteristic for the Arnesons or do those Russians don't know how to drive?:coolcowboy:

kvogt 04-06-2011 08:49 AM

I have to put my drives down, but my boat pops right up with very little prop slip.

Kris Vogt

drpete3 04-06-2011 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by kvogt (Post 3369792)
I have to put my drives down, but my boat pops right up with very little prop slip.

Kris Vogt

Any videoof yours running?

Rik 04-06-2011 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by UrbanDisturbance (Post 3369728)
I am sure a lot of you have seen the Youtube video of the Yellow Cigarette Top Gun from Russia with Arnesons. It took about 20 seconds for them to get on plane. Is that a characteristic for the Arnesons or do those Russians don't know how to drive?:coolcowboy:

I believe they had just got the boat in the water and they should have bumped the rpm up just a bit more to get the cleavers to hook up and they would have been on their way.

They go the hang of it pretty fast as they were very happy with the results of the conversion.

Rik 04-06-2011 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by SS930 (Post 3369639)
Rik,
If both are both side by side engine configurations and one can be angled in together towards the center and the other can't, you dont feel there's a performance advantage there???

BTW, I was not aware the new ASD8's couldn't be angled. Why the change?

Yes, on the older Arnesons one could mount the engines on a side by side configuration and have a stagger propeller shaft center line such as the way Kris did his boat.

Is this better? Is this worst? A little bit of both as most boats that are setup as a stagger are 100 mph + boats. A boat that runs in the 60-80 mph range will not gain anything from this and "might" actually suffer in certain areas such as docking and slow speed handling.

A boat with actually staggered engines has a lower center of gravity and there is no benefit of having the larger drop box on the boat then as there has to be space for the propellers and the centerline can only be so close before damage to the propellers occurs.

So if the boat is a stagger engine boat, the propellers will be on the same centerline distance for the Arneson #7, and #8 as they are for the Mercury drives.

kvogt 04-06-2011 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by drpete3 (Post 3369929)
Any videoof yours running?







I don't have any video. You gotta wait til this summer.

Kris

kreed 04-06-2011 01:32 PM


Originally Posted by kvogt (Post 3370109)
I don't have any video. You gotta wait til this summer.

Kris

What power is in the boat and what speeds are you expecting?

kvogt 04-07-2011 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by kreed (Post 3370117)
What power is in the boat and what speeds are you expecting?


Before I took it apart to re-do, I had 800s and it would do 90mph. After the re-do I'm looking to do 100mph. The boat is now lighter, has the bottom straightened, motors have different heads, and has bigger exhaust.

Kris Vogt


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