Who Knows This Tiger?
 

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o44612-en.html

My buddy is looking at this boat. We'll may do semi-partnership deal on it so I'm looking it over.

Beautiful boat with fresh mild blower motors, XR's. It looks super clean and surveys well but it is a 1999 so getting close to 15 years old.

Anyone have any knowledge of it (besides the owner who I am assuming is a member here :D )?

Thanks.

It was a repo recently. I believe..... it was on a liquidation site

Drive eater

can't get to like the green... on any boat.... but nice fun set up for sure !!!

Tigers are great boats and this things looks nice and clean but the weak link here is the drives. I have a Twin Step Tiger and it had XR's that held up pretty good behind 675's but I would say with750 and a straight bottom you will need to update the drives to something better. I just ordered Imco SCX Extremes so we will see how they do. It is approximately $20-$30k to to do the swap but you can sell your stuff if you don't blow it apart.

4195 has a tiger with xrs it's gone through 3 in 350 hours?

The drives are my main concern. That and the steel (vs aluminum) trailer. Are the Imco's bolt up or do you have to mod the transom?

I'm running 630 hp and 670 tq through my xr's on my 2000 Tiger and have never had a problem, one drive lower let go at 472 hours. Imcos will bolt right up with a helmet change.

Been there done that ....never again!

440 hrs.
If you buy this with 750hp blower motors with the constant torque you will blow drives how often and how bad will determine on your driving. I would at least buy a spare. But in opinion if the boat can be bought right then the drive upgrade could factor in. One thing for sure you won't have to turn around and go home because it is to rough out:drink:

Al,

You got two things going against you here.

Never do a partnership on a boat. It never works out.

2nd. 750 hrp on a Tiger with XR's is a drive buster. You will being doing the drives every year and tha't's if you catch it before you blow the top bearing through the side. It's not cheap!

This combo is too much torque for two heavy of a boat with XR drives. IMCO's will not make a difference, they simply will pass on the breakage to the next weakest link, the uppers.

are you going to Desert Storm?

KS

Hey Kevin,

When I talked to my buddy about this boat I mentioned a certain TS/TG with 750/XR package and the associated drive problems. That is a lighter boat and steps so the Tiger would have to be babied for the drives to live and that kind of defeats the whole purpose of having a waver crusher boat!

Unfortunately not going to make DS. I am taking the hot rod to the NSRA Street Rod Nationals in Bakersfield that weekend to promote my hot rod business.

Are you going to Dana Point for memorial Day?

It's not that far from me. I have a few buddies that might know a thing or 2 about it, ill see what I can find out when I talk to them.

4195 chimed in at the same time I posted, should have know his tiger radar would go off!

Frank at Scorpion Racing Engines in Livonia MI did the motors not too long ago.. Give him a call and see what he says about the boat... pretty sure he knows the previous owner as well...Ill sell you my 99' gun with SSM drives for that same price!

Hey Al,

The best thing to do would be to just stay away from it. There's a reason why they don't use Bravos on 42's any more. These boats eat em up. I wouldn't touch one unless it had 6's. You could try the big IMCO drives, they work great and will bolt up, after a helmet change, and if the gimble ring is worn, which it probably is then those will have to be replaced. But by the time you get done with all of that you could have purchased a newer twin step, with 6's.

Hi Tim,

I hear what you are saying and tend to agree.

Is this your old boat?

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o41150-en.html

More money but looks bullet proof.

Al, have you thought about buying the tiger, pulling the blowers off and just making them 550 NA's? That would be easier on the drives and you could recoop some of the cash from the purchase by selling the blowers/chillers...Just a thought. Big blowers to bravos/XR's is a nightmare, just simple fact.

That is Tim's old boat. The owner (that is selling it) is some sort of drag racer and was trying to make it the fastest Tiger in the world (see the thread in the general section). By the way the thread died and he never reported how it worked out, I'd guess he didn't reach his goal.

Hey Tank. Hadn't really thought of that. Not sure how much $ I could get for the take offs.

Also, not sure I'd want to go less power. You know me, too much is not quite enough! :D And, wouldn't that boat be a bit of a dog with only 550's?

It's a shame because it is such a super clean boat. If it had 6's it would be perfect. On the other hand, if it had 6's it would probably be another $50K!

I don't know what you consider a dog but I do know more HP = more problems and maintanence. Tim sold that boat because he was tired of the hassles with big power (fuel, maintenance, breaking, etc) There's something to be said for less HP and turn key. No, you wont do 100 but when you really get down to it, how often are you running 100 in the ocean? And 100 aint even fast when you think of running on a lake so...it is what it is. Maybe Rob (offshoredrillin) will chime in. His Tiger has XR's and 500's I think. he raced it in the bimini race. Don't know the speed but there's something to be said of a turn key wave crusher.

Yeah, certainly don't need the fastest Tiger in the world. Despite what I said above, I'd be happy with 75 - 80 MPH in big water vs 100 MPH in flat water.

My buddy that wants to do this deal would really like to have a 41 Apache but prices are crazy. I'd be happy with a straight hull Gun with SSM #3A's like someone used to have. :D

I want to make sure he doesn't get something that he'll regret buying.

Personally, if I was in the market for a non step tiger this would be the one for sure

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o41024-en.html

Looks like we're crossing posts here. :D

Well, that there is my thinking. Like I said, if it was just me I'd be looking at your old boat (or one like it). I don't need to be Mr. BadAss (obviously from the past boats I've owned :D ).

That f*cker is bad azz!

Yes, this one is nice too and at only $20K more asking, would be a better buy. I'll show it to my buddy and see what he thinks.

It sure is tank!!!! It was for sale on here awhile back, it just popped back up again today. There ain't nothing I don't like about that one!!!! 750s, 6 drives and custom paint....sweet ride.

Yea, it's gorgeous. There was/is a thread on here somewhere where the owner talks about the work he's done including the paint and motors and I think he swapped out XRs for the 6s if I'm not mistaken.

Thanks for the kind words guys! Just trying to get out of that kinda boating for awhile. Really nice boat for the money....

I also Pm'd the OP so maybe we can work something out.

It looked a lot better when I had the opportunity to buy this from Harrison Marine for $76,000 and then offered it to a buddy who passed on it as well........for both of us it was just a timing issue and what we going on at the time.....had nothing to do with the boat.....nice ride a both prices..

Your not talking about my boat with 750s and 6's on boxes are you?

AND dont forget SMITH POWER. Cant go wrong!!

Dont think it likes smooth water very well tho, So some Pacific will be Perfect.

Hey Al,

Yes, that was my old Tiger. I sold it to Justin Silvers, he then sold it to another guy, then it went back east, and I guess that's the guy that has it now. That other straight bottom in the ad in this thread looks really nice, has 6's and would be a better bet. There's also the 04 that they're asking 199k for. Doesn't look like it's going anywhere soon at that price, make an offer, that way you get a step hull. Makes a big difference.

i definitely agree, that is an awesome tiger. But if thats out of the price range has this one been considered? i know nothing of its history and the paint is very outdated but i would guess it could be had for under 100k (less than the original one being considered). it appears to be very clean and well cared for and has fresh turnkey power
http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o44720-en.html

i like to be optimistic with drives but that might be pushing it, tiger with 590 hp, 5 blade props and bravo's

Noo....believe me if it had 750's and 6's I would have bought it!!!!!!

talking about the one Bajafresh is asking about in this thread

I know that boat and it's as clean as advertised...seems to be priced right. Owner stepped up to a newer Tiger.

How do the drives handle the power and weight? Similar size and weight to my boat just curious what to expect

I'll say they handle it fine, as I own one, I even put more horsepower and torque to mine and its still fine. But if you want you can listen to the people that don't own one and they will tell you different ;)...that is all :D

Driver makes all the difference....