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TCBoss302 12-11-2013 10:15 AM

What an incredible job, congrats! Quick question, did you paint your trim pumps and tanks?

tcwcar 12-11-2013 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by GOTTOYS (Post 4039943)
VERY VERY nice job! Excellent Quality & Detail. These boats are worth the effort...The 30's are rare and phenomenal boats...It's always great to see someone with such great passion...

Thanks GOTTOYS, your Vice is one of my all time favorite Cigs, the 30 footer is the right size for me just wish it had the steps like yours, its been fun rebuilding it but its time to get her on the water...


Originally Posted by TCBoss302 (Post 4040088)
What an incredible job, congrats! Quick question, did you paint your trim pumps and tanks?

Thanks TCBoss, the pumps are painted, the tanks are from RM marine and there powder coated

ICDEDPPL 12-11-2013 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by tcwcar (Post 4022742)
Thanks ICDEDPPL, Now your boat is assume....one of my favorite flat decks,



Originally Posted by tcwcar (Post 4040226)
Thanks GOTTOYS, your Vice is one of my all time favorite Cigs,


You`re such a hoe!!


:throw:

tcwcar 12-11-2013 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 4040305)
You`re such a hoe!!


:throw:

I know just trying to make EVERYONE HAPPY..... I guess should have told you about my SIDE favorites.... so I might as well tell you about BIGGUS, Quinlan, 88bullet, and my newest is Jbraun's, I give it up for just about anything with a "1" on the side....but don't worry this still gives me a woody.....[ATTACH=CONFIG]514050[/ATTACH]

88bullet 12-11-2013 07:07 PM

come run the finger lakes with us next summer. we have 6 top guns up here getting ready for spring.

state1310 08-10-2014 07:15 PM


Originally Posted by tcwcar (Post 4026550)
Thanks for the kind words Kurt, that means a lot coming from a guy that owns the badest Mystique ever. You have ridden in the my boat before me:lolhit:, I never had the this boat on the water, bought it and took it apart, it has come a long way, hope to use it this coming year, but changed a lot of things, and everyone knows what happens when you start changing things, that usually means a lot of bugs to work out, unless I get real lucky and everything works together without an issue....[ATTACH=CONFIG]512312[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]512313[/ATTACH]

i love this boat

tommymonza 10-21-2014 06:43 PM

Hey I just stumbled upon your restore last night. That thing is unbelievable Most Mystique's I wouldn't even give a 1st glance to but yours just does it for me and the yellow 90 is the best one out there in my book

Congratulations on finishing a long hard road on it . Hope you have a ball on it and reap your well deserved rewards on it.

tcwcar 10-22-2014 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by tommymonza (Post 4206935)
Hey I just stumbled upon your restore last night. That thing is unbelievable Most Mystique's I wouldn't even give a 1st glance to but yours just does it for me and the yellow 90 is the best one out there in my book

Congratulations on finishing a long hard road on it . Hope you have a ball on it and reap your well deserved rewards on it.

Thanks for the kind words tommy, but the old girl is still not done, I had a lot of thing going on and didn't have much time to work on it this summer, than Blue thunder took me on a fun run with him and that's all it took to light the fuse again, trying to get the motors dynoed before dec. so I can get them in early next year, it will be on the water next year if I have to buy oars and row it:D here are a few pic from my yard, I get up behind the helm and make motor sounds, my wife said she needs just one more signature to have me committed :boat:[ATTACH=CONFIG]531330[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]531331[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]531332[/ATTACH]

Biggus 10-22-2014 06:15 AM

Looks amazing! Can't wait to see pics on the water. Great job. Kurt

tcwcar 09-15-2015 09:29 PM

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Well its been almost a year since I posted on this thread, didn't get a chance to work on the project much last year, but been working on the boat as much is can since May, and thanks to my good friend Blue Thunder who has keep me motivated, and is my self proclaimed project manager, I can finally see the light at the end of the tunnel. I had a few set backs, throughout the summer, and the major one was with the AFR heads, and I'm not going to knock AFR because I think there great heads, if its anybody's fault its mine for not reading the directions sent with the heads. But I do want to thank Full Force for his head thread, it got me to think about checking mine, and I'm glad I did the guides were super tight, and probably would have ended up like his did with me running open cooling, after that set back been moving forward. hope to fire it in the next week or so... here some pics of what's been going on...the first pic of the motors is pre head work.[ATTACH=CONFIG]545182[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]545183[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]545184[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]545185[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]545186[/ATTACH] I will post more pics of the progress, it is at the point the motors are in and the drives are on...

caseyh 09-15-2015 10:00 PM

Keep up the good work! Your my motivation

Got Cigs 09-15-2015 10:01 PM

:drool1: Looking awesome Joe!!! So when you selling it??:party-smiley-004:

ICDEDPPL 09-16-2015 08:40 AM

WOW!
Looking fantastic!
keep up the great work.
Motors look great

Wasted Income 09-16-2015 09:47 AM

So awesome. Great work.

tcwcar 09-16-2015 07:18 PM

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Thanks for the replies, that's some good motivation in its self, here are some pics of motors off the engine stands after 4 years of being out of the boat.ATTACH=CONFIG]545226[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]545227[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]545228[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]545229[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]545230[/ATTACH]

tcwcar 09-16-2015 07:41 PM

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Getting the bilge ready for the new power, innercooler lines, bilge pump hoses, I just hope they fit, don't have nearly the room in the bilge to fit these things, I'm just worried with the HP coupler and the blower pulley are we going to get them in.. [ATTACH=CONFIG]545231[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]545232[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]545233[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]545234[/ATTACH]

tcwcar 09-16-2015 07:52 PM

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Heres some pics of my triple engine Silverado[ATTACH=CONFIG]545235[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]545236[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]545237[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]545238[/ATTACH]

ICDEDPPL 09-16-2015 10:11 PM

Holy crap nice bilge!!!!

Lots of tongue wiht with no motors aint it lol

tcwcar 09-17-2015 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 4355550)
Holy crap nice bilge!!!!

lots of tongue with with no motors aint it lol

Thanks Icdedppl just a little bit, I put the air bags up all the way, the boat on the trailer without the motors, the last axle was always jacked up, no weight in the back, now with the motors in the trailer leveled out.

tcwcar 09-17-2015 07:44 AM


Originally Posted by caseyh (Post 4355157)
Keep up the good work! Your my motivation

Thanks casey, your project is looking assume, the bilge looks great, I wish the Mystique had the magic back seat that the bullet has, that would have made things so much easier, had be a contortionist to reach the motor mount bolts, In fact we to use BT son to get most of the motor plate bolts in, mine and BTs old ass couldn't bend enough to reach the bolts, had to get that young buck to do it..LOL

tcwcar 09-17-2015 02:18 PM

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I'm going to get a little head of myself here, but this is what I'm working on today. I have no room on my transom or the stringers to mount the shift cable brackets, and with the whipples there's not enough room between the blower throttle cable mount, and the shift cable bracket, that mount to the CMI etops. So I had to do a little modifications to the plate that holds the shift cable bracket, that mounts to the header, so here's what I did to give me just enough room...[ATTACH=CONFIG]545266[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]545267[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]545268[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]545269[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]545270[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]545271[/ATTACH] I really don't like the brackets mounted to the headers but when you don't have the room, you got to do what you got to do. I stepped the plate over 3/8 of an inch, and moved it up and front about a 1/4 of an inch, it gives me just enough room for the throttle cable to clear, and I can retain the same mounting points. Maybe this can help someone on there project..[ATTACH=CONFIG]545272[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]545273[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]545274[/ATTACH]

tcwcar 09-17-2015 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by Got Cigs (Post 4355158)
:drool1: Looking awesome Joe!!! So when you selling it??:party-smiley-004:

I don't know Curt, maybe, I thought you would have got that 35TS, Playboy by now, but I do think your going have to come down and teach me how to drive this thing since you had one...

502ss 09-17-2015 02:27 PM

Nice fab work!

Got Cigs 09-17-2015 02:30 PM

After the job you've done on the boat, id be afraid to look at it funny...:eekdrop:

Feverz29 09-17-2015 02:57 PM

Beautiful work, congrats!

tcwcar 09-17-2015 07:16 PM

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Well here are some pics after I got the motors loaded on the truck, they went for little ride with the boat to BTs house, where we spent 2 hours just trying to get the boat down the driveway, before we even got the chance to get cut and bruised up trying to wedge the motors in that tight space they call the bilge. Blue Thunder, and BT jr. are in the pics he has been great help and a great friend throughout the build....[ATTACH=CONFIG]545280[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]545281[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]545282[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]545283[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]545284[/ATTACH]

DBleil89 09-18-2015 07:37 AM

This is probably a stupid question, but how did you lower them into the bildge. The arm on the engine hoist would hit the boat before they are in. I didn't see anything for lowering just the motor on there. I ask because I usually use my chain block I have set up in my garage ceiling. My VIP was to high to pull the boat forward with the motor above it. I called my buddy with his boom tow truck and right out with no issues. When it was time to put it back it was just as simple. It only took 20 minutes each time with the tow truck.

DBleil89 09-18-2015 08:28 AM

This is probably a stupid question, but how did you lower them into the bildge. The arm on the engine hoist would hit the boat before they are in. I didn't see anything for lowering just the motor on there. I ask because I usually use my chain block I have set up in my garage ceiling. My VIP was to high to pull the boat forward with the motor above it. I called my buddy with his boom tow truck and right out with no issues. When it was time to put it back it was just as simple. It only took 20 minutes each time with the tow truck.

tcwcar 09-18-2015 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by DBleil89 (Post 4356046)
This is probably a stupid question, but how did you lower them into the bildge. The arm on the engine hoist would hit the boat before they are in. I didn't see anything for lowering just the motor on there. I ask because I usually use my chain block I have set up in my garage ceiling. My VIP was to high to pull the boat forward with the motor above it. I called my buddy with his boom tow truck and right out with no issues. When it was time to put it back it was just as simple. It only took 20 minutes each time with the tow truck.

We had plenty of room with the arm, the only problem we had is we didn't have a lot of room in front of the motor(which you will see when I post pics with the motors in), with the blower pulley on, and with the HP drive coupler, till we got the long snout into the inner transom plate there was a lot of b*tching and moaning, but with the arm we had plenty of room, and he uses it with his scarab all the time and the scarab is higher at the back then my cig is

c_deezy 09-18-2015 08:25 PM

Boat looks awesome, very high attention to detail.

It is tough using a cherry picker to install engines in a deep vee. Pulling them isn't too bad but install is a pain. I built a somewhat modified cherry picker to use, but I ended up using a chain fall with it as well, made life so much easier to make those quarter inch up and down movements to get everything bolted in.

Not trying to jack your thread but I'll stick a pick in, like you said in case it helps somebody else out in the future. One thing to keep in mind is that is a lot of iron up in the air, I only ever used it very level concrete and once the engine was up I moved the boat under the engine, never moved the hoist with the engine dangling. I was afraid it would start swinging and topple over.

It did the job, I think I pulled and installed 2 different engines about a half dozen times, but I dismantled it after I was done and intend to build an A-frame.

http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/a...pscedc6970.jpg

caseyh 09-19-2015 06:29 AM

Ever knew how much room the intertransome plates took up till we mounted one to make sure everything was alined right and would work with the ones we had made with out all the extra bs on them.
http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/a...psae5rvoad.jpg

Compared to this
http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps4xfgxawq.jpg

tcwcar 09-19-2015 08:12 AM

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The Bullet is looking great Casey, I did the same thing with my plastic big block, but I didn't have the pulleys and the drive coupler on, and I wasn't thinking about that (which I should have been) I was worried about the bigger oil pans clearing the stingers and if the blowers were under the hatch..

c_deezy 09-19-2015 01:30 PM

Do you have any more progress pics or final install pics?


Originally Posted by caseyh (Post 4356374)
Ever knew how much room the intertransome plates took up till we mounted one to make sure everything was alined right and would work with the ones we had made with out all the extra bs on them.


tcwcar 09-19-2015 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by c_deezy (Post 4356511)
Do you have any more progress pics or final install pics?

Here you go....[ATTACH=CONFIG]545414[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]545415[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]545416[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]545417[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]545418[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]545419[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]545420[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]545421[/ATTACH]

frickstyle 09-21-2015 09:03 AM

awesome.

tcwcar 09-21-2015 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by frickstyle (Post 4357005)
awesome.

Now your boat is awesome frick, I hope you get everything worked out on her, I know its been a long road for you..

ICDEDPPL 09-21-2015 08:39 PM

Damn son that is a tight bilge!

tcwcar 09-22-2015 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 4357347)
Damn son that is a tight bilge!

You don't know, you have to stand on your head half the time to get to anything, the beam on this thing is only 7'8", that's why I have the magic stick in the one pic, it has a rare earth magnet, on it to go fishing for all the **** I drop in there...[ATTACH=CONFIG]545481[/ATTACH]

502ss 09-22-2015 07:34 AM


Originally Posted by tcwcar (Post 4357424)
You don't know, you have to stand on your head half the time to get to anything, the beam on this thing is only 7'8", that's why I have the magic stick in the one pic, it has a rare earth magnet, on it to go fishing for all the **** I drop in there...[ATTACH=CONFIG]545481[/ATTACH]

There are a lot of people that have no idea of the challenges involved with working on a boat that has BBC's shoe horned into the bilge, I feel your pain man! Now you know why I am building the engine chassis, I need to be able to pop an engine out and in easily! What is the center to center spacing on your setup? 34"?

Some day I will own a boat where I can do a spark plug check on the inside ports without having to pull a motor! :(

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i4...b/078482c6.jpg

tcwcar 09-22-2015 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by 502ss (Post 4357478)
There are a lot of people that have no idea of the challenges involved with working on a boat that has BBC's shoe horned into the bilge, I feel your pain man! Now you know why I am building the engine chassis, I need to be able to pop an engine out and in easily! What is the center to center spacing on your setup? 34"?

Some day I will own a boat where I can do a spark plug check on the inside ports without having to pull a motor! :(

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i4...b/078482c6.jpg

The center to center on the Mystique is 35", but one good thing about the whipples, with so little room to work with, there good and sturdy, and flat on top, so you can lay across the top of them to get little extra reach you need...


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