So the condition of the boat is not so good???

Sooo.....Did this purchase go through?

Hey sorry about your boat... I bought it. It's in really good shape for what it is. Trailer is really rough though.. But the cockpit interior is destroyed but cabin is good and motors seem very strong. Getting it into my shop for resto hopefully this week or next.

Will a moderator please close this thread? If 315duramax wants to start another thread about the boat, that would be a better organization for finding information if someone is searching for info on cafe racers. Thanks.

Whack don't sweat this thread. There are a lot of other boats out there that in the end you will have less money into in the long run. Take a look at the cafe hawk boat. Looks way nicer and way less of a project. Keep looking the deals are out there. Dmax has a lot of work on his hands. There was a speedmaster boat in Loto that was a decent deal.

Did Dmax buy this out from under you, or did you get your deposit back?

Yeah what's the deal with that? If you had a deposit on it then someone needs a punch in the cocksucker

What a dik move..... I would be LIT about that....

agree, clarification would be great.

[QUOTE=Full Whack;4056831]Will a moderator please close this thread? If 315duramax wants to start another thread about the boat, that would be a better organization for finding information if someone is searching for info on cafe racers. Thanks.[/QUOTE

Don't you think you should close this thread with a little insight ....you did ask for help being the thread starter .....just a little OSO etiquette!

Seems shiesty. Whats the deal?! This ones on Winni. @ Channel. Price has been dropping. Maybe they want to deal, boat needs an update http://nh.craigslist.org/bod/4249219185.html

That's a DuraDik move........

Somebody got cold feet

So if Full Whack has first deposit to buy...........how do you step in and come to buy this boat???

Trust me, no one got cold feet.

Is the Cafe you had the non refundable deposit on, the same one that 315dmax bought?

Yes. Supposedly there is a check in the mail from the marina for the amount of the deposit. The boat was sold prior to me even knowing.

SO THE MARINA SAY'S JUST TO MAKE NOT LOOK SO OBVIOUS.....why did they even take the deposit then??

Hey dura//dick,,i hope the fukin stringers are cracked and the mother phucker sinks..

Hope the transom is worse than the one I cut out today and you get to try your proprietary system!

Ah, I see. Sounds like a lack of communication within the marina. Or a lack of morals, selling to highest bidder even with a deposit in hand. Good luck in your search

As much of a d!ck move it is by Dmaxx, I think it is more of the sellers lack of integrity. If it wasn't Dmaxx it would've been somebody else........

I don't know either duramax or Full Whack (feel bad that he lost the boat he wanted though), but if I were to speculate. I think it probably went down like this...

... buyer 1 gives deposit but seller not convinced buyer 1 is going to see it through... Buyer 2 comes along all hot and heavy willing to give deposit, sight unseen.. Seller takes deposit from buyer 2 to "guarantee" a sale figuring if buyer 1 walks, he still has buyer 2 in hand and if buyer 1 closes deal, then can give buyer 2's money back. Hopefully I'm right and Full Whack gets his money back...

I agree !

I feel bad for fullwack I was going to look at it for him as we talked about his concerns....after three calls to the dealer they said they would call me but never did...so contacted the buyer told him what happened...it sucks how this went down but maybe he is better off... I wouldn't by sh.t from that marina that s for sure....

Sounds like he is proud to have tried at this point of taking FW's deal. Then does buy the boat out from under.

The forums have not been kind to Duramax315. I get it, he is eager but making these moves like he did just wont sit well with a tight community. To make money flipping a boat you will need to have connections with people to get parts fast and affordable. I doubt people will facilitate parts or cut him a deal on a reputation that is from these forums.. Found or unfound. Fair or not fair.. Thats just the way it is some times.

showed up with cash on saturday, guy pissed me off and i drove 6 hours to find the boat not in the condition i thought it was. drove home and was pissed i didnt buy it so i drove back on monday and made it happen... seller said he sent the deposit back to the guy. i hope he did, but business is business. cool fact though, boat was originally owned by the famous mob gambino family. and has 420hp 454 ci motors stroked to a 496..

Well, the ad does state "1st come, 1st serve". Just not sure how/or better yet...why, the deposit thing, and a 'non refundable' one at that. Seems like a deposit means nothing more than having your money tied up in the mean time, not a guarantee it will be there when you show up to get it. Eitherway, good luck to both dmax on his purchase and FW on his new search

I am getting tired of people using the phrase "business is business" as an excuse to act like an ass and feel good or proud of the actions! I am not a liberal ***** but feel that society is not better for this attitude. I hope "full whack" gets his deposit back and if not hope he enlightens us as to who the marina is so we can all call and voice our opinion. Duradik315 is not setting the stage for a trusting potential consumer.

What you did to Full Whack was a "not cool fact". It's a bummer that people like you are out there taking advantage of others. jsbrowni is right - saying "business-is-business" is-bs. It was pretty clear from Full Whack's posts on this thread that he fully intended to buy the boat. You knew that and STILL pulled it out from under him. You can still make this right by offering it to Full Whack for the same price. Everyone on this forum will use you as an example of how to make a wrong right!

Woww!!!......very impressed!!

it happened to me twice!!! once I had a deposit, the other I did not...

was pissed big time, but time told me 2 things! first one blew the engines in less than 5 hours, second had rotten transom, stringer and hull bottom in engine compartment...

so in the end, I was lucky they were sold to other before me!!

who knows exactly in this case...

I bought a boat that i was in contact with the seller long before FW made a deposit. Its not like i saw this post, looked up the boat and went and bought it... i actually only saw this thread when i came back the first time from looking at the boat. the seller told me he didnt want to deal with FW sending a surveyor and not even looking at it himself and i had cash in my truck, look, alot of yall i can tell are against a young guy like myself getting into buying and selling powerboats, but like many things, if you dont take each and everyone getting into a sport that you love, where will the sport (or hobby) be in the next generation? Quite frankly, there were other boats i was looking at, but with all the **** ive taken from tossing ideas around and being shot down for them. I bought this boat to resto it and shut a lot of you up on saying im over my head, or i dont know what im doing, etc. I bet if apple told the web (that didnt exist) on in detail what they wanted to do, im sure apple wouldnt be what it is. Or engine builders offering classes on building powerful motors, they wouldnt be in business, alot of members on here i am sure are business owners and understand how business works whether or not anyone thinks it can be done or not. cool if people think it cant be done, awesome, sit back and watch me "fail".

Full Wack, look man, its nothing personal, obviously. i dont want you or anyone on here to think im a sly person, i was in contact with the seller before you, you sent a deposit but i still had cash and drove 6 hrs with cash to look at it. ive had many trucks and toys bought right out from under me sometimes while i was at the bank taking out the loan for my first truck i got the call from sellers. i know how it feels. If you want the boat PM me maybe we can work something out. Boat is thawing out in my shop ATM and will be stripped down pretty soon once i figure out my direction. reading from what you said, i think it was a little much though for you with all due respect... there are alot of little things with this boat that take glass work knowledge. this boat is not just in need of interior. paint is past buffing, motors need to be cleaned, bilge needs straightening up and repaint, not to mention the interior is fully destroyed. i understand your upset, but i guess, im asking for everyone to back off. All i got from being on here is that im full of ****, wasting peoples time, i dont have cash, my idea wont work etc. so i buy a boat to show what i can do and i get **** for doing that now as well. Anyways, its a forum, and im sure you all will, but, carry on speaking what you will.

I still wanna see a restoration on a cafe they turns a profit, besides parting it out.... seen some real nice cafes sitting for sale that owners put lots of money into... dont forget to add $ to your own hours spent.... maybe I am wrong, but not normally...if the boat is a bad as you make it sound it will add up fast...

Ill be posting a thread in time. This boat is really not much to turn a huge profit because if I was hoping for a decent profit it wouldn't be there with what I paid... Mostly was to build it to shut up a lot of people and show what I can do.. And it all depends on to what extent you build them. Obv if I put 30k worth of motors in it I wouldn't make anything. I guess, idk it's just something I've always done, you need to find a fine line between no expense spared, and getting the best bang for your buck.. And at this point no, if I do all my own work I don't add my time, time is therapy and we all know that. What I would make in profit is my bottom line vs what I sell for..

Still no check in the mail, so for potential future legal reasons I will be keeping my thoughts and comments to myself until further notice.. This whole situation is infuriating, and discouraging. My only hope is that everything happens for a reason and I dodged a bullet..

Justin

I have a feeling you may have with whats unraveling on FB about this boat....

well when you are doing something for yourself, time is no objct, but doing something to make money, time is calculated, why work for free...?? and what I have read elsewhere this should be interesting to watch, 6 years doing glass work and guys doing it 30 years, I will go with how they say to do it.... I read a few things that would keep me from buying the "restored" boat after you redo it...

Well, it looks like the seller is a dirt bag and being a OSO member means nothing these days. At one time, people on this site worked together and helped each other out. That being said, I would take a look at the Lake Winni Café. If it has been a freshwater/lift kept boat since new, there will be no comparison and you will have much better results in the long run.

Dmax315 is a dick and the seller is horrible. Bad business all the way around. I wouldn't deal with either personally

I feel like there was a time on OSO where guys like DMax wouldn't be allowed to continue "contributing" to this website after pulling a stunt like this.

Full whack - it will work out for you man. Look forward to having you in the cig clan