Originally Posted by Yamaha24 (Post 4058465)

Man O Man, just read this this morning I am on the fence a little bit about this one, I almost get a tear in my eye for FW as I can understand the pain you are in right now, but experience has taught me one thing, this is probably going to end up better for you in the long run that's for sure.

As for the parties involved in this, dealer is shady not how business should be done, I would not do business with anyone like that. What I think he should have done was called you, told you he had someone hot to buy and gave you a couple days to come up with the cash or move on, sounds to me like a desperate dealer low on funds needed the dough fast.

As for Duradude well his actions pretty much sum him up.

Now as far as the boat goes, if I were you I would not lose any sleep over this one. If you start adding up what this one needs in repairs from what I can gather you could most likely buy a loved well taken care of turn key Cigarette with a minimal boat payment that will keep you happy for years to come. You know nothing about these engines or drives with a dealer like this you have no idea what this boat needs.

I have redone a couple boats in my time, they start out as small projects and then poof $30K later your like WTF happened....Here is an example I redid a Supra ski boat last year for my kids thought I was going to put like 3k-5k in boat almost 9k later boat is almost done!!!.I am sure there is many OSO member's who can tell you there small fixer upper jobs that put them in the poor house.

Now as far as deals go, I just bought OSO member Sean's OLD 1987 Café Racer he sold it 2-3 years ago something like that not sure exactly, if you follow this boat on OSO you will find Sean loved this Café redid boat updated engines and drives to the tune of $70,000.00 then sold. It is not in the condition Sean sold it in, but it will be, I will be redoing interior and getting her all shinned up again. I paid $35,000.00 for this Café..........

So the one you were looking at $19,000.00 may seem like a great deal, but was it really? Probably not after all repairs are done.

These old boats as neat as they are just do not bring the cash they used to.

You will find the right boat just keep looking

Originally Posted by coopsmirage (Post 4058519)

You got a hell of a deal on the '87. I looked long and hard at that one. If I did a little more boating on Michigan I would have had that in my driveway last fall. It was difficult to pass up but just too big for where I boat. Congrats!

Originally Posted by mptrimshop (Post 4058425)

Ahh are you the guy that sucked me into the plywood thing?

Originally Posted by Rick G (Post 4058441)

US1 most might agree that regular ply would be adequate and assuming that none of the 30 to 40 holes you are going to drill into your transom are going to leak . It only takes one badly sealed hole to ruin a transom . True marine ply is usually more plys and assembled with waterproof glue so that should a hole leak there is less chance the water will migrate throughout the structure as quickly or completely as it would in reg ply . Better material done properly usually equals better result .
Again just my opinion.
RG.

Originally Posted by park35 (Post 4058446)

Marine ply the good stuff has two more layers then cdx or ac for that matter also has less voids between layers....quarter in max on any voids.....cdx is yellow pine....ac has fur on outside layers and marine ply usually mohogiany on outside ....good marine ply 3/4 cost about 150a sheet where ac costs about 45...I would never do a repair with anything less then marine ply

Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix (Post 4058323)

I don't understand why you don't let us know the name of your (the) shop? Seem if you want to show it off it wouldn't be a secret.

Originally Posted by glassdave (Post 4058647)

True dat :cool:

At the end of the day your only talking maybe a couple hundred in savings going with outdoor pine over marine fir. Marine fir is much easier to work with, denser and easier to round over plus it does not seem to warp and move around like pine while your working with it. Pine also has oils that do not necessarily like lamination. I'm not gonna say that i have never used big box stuff in the past but that was long ago and not on customer stuff, you can use it but it doesn't make sense on performance stuff. Here in Toledo we have a high end cabinetry lumber place that sells marine fir for right around a hundy a sheet for 3/4, it just isnt worth the savings to use anything less.

Originally Posted by Full Whack (Post 4058777)

Got the check from the marina today, finally some closure on all of this..

Originally Posted by Full Whack (Post 4058777)

Got the check from the marina today, finally some closure on all of this..

Originally Posted by Full Whack (Post 4058777)

Got the check from the marina today, finally some closure on all of this..

Originally Posted by glassdave (Post 4058647)

True dat :cool:

At the end of the day your only talking maybe a couple hundred in savings going with outdoor pine over marine fir. Marine fir is much easier to work with, denser and easier to round over plus it does not seem to warp and move around like pine while your working with it. Pine also has oils that do not necessarily like lamination. I'm not gonna say that i have never used big box stuff in the past but that was long ago and not on customer stuff, you can use it but it doesn't make sense on performance stuff. Here in Toledo we have a high end cabinetry lumber place that sells marine fir for right around a hundy a sheet for 3/4, it just isnt worth the savings to use anything less.

Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 4206186)

:nicethread:

Originally Posted by 88bullet (Post 4058328)

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