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Old 10-03-2014 | 07:15 PM
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My guess is he's not taping something off before he paints it
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Old 10-03-2014 | 07:18 PM
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^ starting a full resto on a carbon Cig of course
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Old 10-03-2014 | 07:18 PM
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Ok so I guess a copy of the survey has made it to me .. Phil if you don` want this out there please PM me and I~ll take it down.

From what I have read Phils says it needs a few things especially gauges... here is a Professionals opinion:



XV. FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS
SAFETY DEFICIENCIES: The bilge blower needs to be connected properly.
USCG COMPLIANCE: Engine compartment ventilation (blower motor).
SURVEYORS NOTES AND OBSERVATIONS: The vessel appeared to be in above average condition overall and has obvious recent paint updates to the exterior. The overall condition of the exterior gel coat and paint on both the top deck and hull is excellent. There are few blemishes which are considered to be from normal use of the boat. The paint on the bottom of the hull appears new in the forward half. However, from midship aft the gel coat appeared original. The rear quarter of the vessel as well as the transom has been painted red. The red paint from the transom over-sprayed to the hull bottom.
The bilge area appeared to be in above average condition and appeared to be well maintained with the exception of power steering fluid residue being present from recent breakage.
The upholstery in the cockpit and engine hatch is new and has custom embroidery.
There were gauges that were inoperable as well as inaccurate and the instrument panel and entire gauge cluster appears to be the original. It is in need of updating/replacement. Specifically, the fuel switches are disconnected and wired to the keys, the bilge pump switches operate only in automatic mode, the engine compartment switch appears to operate however the light is inoperable, both fuel gauges are stuck at 3/4, the speedometer does not operate and the Starboard water pressure is inoperable. In addition, the panel light does not illuminate behind the Port volts, Starboard oil temperature and the Starboard water temperature gauges. Also, both tachometers are “sticky” and only operate properly by lightly tapping the face of both.
The access panel beneath the rear bench seat is in need of hardware replacement to secure it properly.
The Passenger bolster seat is in need of a forward Port side bolt in order to secure it properly to the deck.
The TRS outdrives and Mercury Kiekhaefer planning tabs appeared with typical pitting and corrosion. They have been cleaned and painted. The tab indicators at the helm operated properly with newly installed cables. The clear cover on the indicator gauge at the helm is badly weathered.
Although the vessel has undergone major updating and is able to be used in its current state, there are numerous updates and repairs still needed in order to complete the restoration.
Structurally, the vessel appeared to be in excellent condition where accessible.
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structurally excellent

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Overall condition above average

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Overall condition of gel coat, paint and deck excellent.



Interior:


JOINERY AND FINISH: The joinery is molded and in above average condition.
CABIN BRIGHT WORK: Carpet covered and in above average condition.
INTERIOR BULKHEADS: High quality marine grade vinyl and carpet covered in above average condition.
STORAGE AREAS: The drawers, cabinets, lockers, and shelving are FRP molded and appear in above average condition with exception to the ice box. The molded ice box wooden lid is split and in need of repair or replacement. The support is also in need of replacement.
HEADLINERS: Headliner material in the cabin is high quality marine grade vinyl, molded FRP and cloth. All materials appear in above average condition.
CUSHIONS: Cloth material throughout and in above average condition.
FLOORS: Floor coverings are snap down carpet. The cockpit carpeting appeared in above average condition.
WINDOW COVERINGS: N/A.
ACCOMMODATIONS: V-Berth is forward. Material is in above average condition.
HEAD/SHOWER: Head is on Starboard side and is full fiberglass molded insert with molded toilet. The area appears to be in above condition however, there was no power to the head and there was no way of testing the head for proper operation.
FAUCET FIXTURES: The faucet fixture and sink were not operable.
INTERIOR LIGHTING FIXTURES: More than adequate lighting fixtures are present. The light in the head is not operable and two cabin lights were without bulbs.


So yes there is overspray (GASP!!!) on the bottom of the boat and the trailer is crap but usable(made it from New York to LOTO and back)

Honestly, Id rather finish this boat that the pile I bought. Lets see this fall: rip out 2 gas tanks, redo floor, interior, and full exhaust for 2 motors , another 10+gs down the drain and winter projects haven`t even begun. Don`t even remind me about the motors and drives last year and that boat just needed some "finishing touches"
Some gauges and switches and a bit of over spray?? I`d fix that before lunch .

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Old 10-03-2014 | 07:22 PM
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Post all pics of the restoration... Pics are worth 200 posts
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Old 10-03-2014 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL
Ok so I guess a copy of the survey has made it to me .. Phil if you don` want this out there please PM me and I~ll take it down.

From what I have read Phils says it needs a few things especially gauges... here is a Professionals opinion:





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structurally excellent

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Overall condition above average

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Overall condition of gel coat, paint and deck excellent.



Interior:






So yes there is overspray (GASP!!!) on the bottom of the boat and the trailer is crap but usable(made it from New York to LOTO and back)

Honestly, Id rather finish this boat that the pile I bought. Lets see this fall: rip out 2 gas tanks, redo floor, interior, and full exhaust for 2 motors , another 10+gs down the drain and winter projects haven`t even begun. Don`t even remind me about the motors and drives last year and that boat just needed some "finishing touches"
Some gauges and switches and a bit of over spray?? I`d fix that before lunch .
then you saw all pics, do you really think it's what he says it is? Honestly? Cone on man I know you like Phil but man up and tell the truth... Would YOU accept that as a average or above average boat purchase after being RESTORED?
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Old 10-03-2014 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Full Force
So to the guys that defend him, you want a fellow boater to drop off his SKATER, Fountain or Cig and get totally fukked over and not be able to get
Money back because he destroyed it? We called it and it happened.... But we are wrong.
Good thing you`re on the case, the owners of these fine watercraft are obviously too dumb to know any better and need FULL FORCE to guide them thru their lifes decisions. Ever consider giving up the day job and becoming a life coach???
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Old 10-03-2014 | 07:29 PM
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That looks like an on the trailer survey no sea trial... Waste of time, i can tell all that by looking at pictures...
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Old 10-03-2014 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Full Force
then you saw all pics, do you really think it's what he says it is? Honestly? Cone on man I know you like Phil but man up and tell the truth... Would YOU accept that as a average or above average boat purchase after being RESTORED?
Oh I see so now the surveyor doesn`t know what hes talking about. I seen the pics.. Im betting your Baja that went to the shredder probably would have gotten a much worse survey...
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Old 10-03-2014 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by mmb
That looks like an on the trailer survey no sea trial... Waste of time, i can tell all that by looking at pictures...

its a long survey...


V. SEA TRIAL REPORT
IDLE RPM: Port: 900 Starboard: 800
IDLE OIL PRESSURE: 35
IDLE VOLTAGE: 12.5
IDLE TEMPERATURE: Within normal range.
CRUISING SPEED: 38 mph (33 kts) @ 3,500 rpm
SPEED AT WOT: 59 mph (51 kts)
MAXIMUM OIL PRESSURE: 75
MAXIMUM VOLTAGE: 13.5
MAXIMUM TEMPERATURE: 120
OVERALL MACHINERY APPEARANCE: Average condition.
MACHINERY HAZARDS: No hazards were observed.
The vessel planed and cruised without effort. At WOT, the vessel was stable and operated as expected.
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Old 10-03-2014 | 07:36 PM
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You know I have no idea why I`m wasting my time I met the kid for 2 minutes.Haters will always hate.

You all are right its a piece of junk , all your stuff is beyond excellent especially the mighty wave crushing Mistress. FF is always right, end of story.
Continue your bashing if it helps your own self esteem.

I`m out.
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