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Full Force 10-06-2014 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by tommymonza (Post 4198168)
The problem is YOU .... Not the guys who offered you advice earlier that you shot down and now they are giving you a little Hazing. You Earned it ,

You had a chance to back up your mouth , but you failed.

You set some high expectations for your self and A. Got in over your head with the amount of time and work not to mention the money that all your earlier vision was going to realistically require.

And B ... This is the big one.. You rushed and took the boat out of the barn to showoff how shiny you made it while running around with it far from complete sans..hatches vents dash overspray removed and showing pics on here

And C After running around with it you let the fun of using it get in the way of properly completing it.

You can say the Overspray is no big deal which I know it isn't if it is in a place that it can be removed without damaging the area as it looks like a quick fix on the hull but th the overspray on the accessories panel and the cockpit floor looks really Bad

So why didn't you take 20 minutes and sand it off the bottom at the very least ?

And maybe clean up that bilge That non functioning Bilge blower is a bit dangerous and being something as important as that not being properly addressed would scare me that there may be something else loose that would contribute to the ignition of the unventilated fumes in the bilge.

The instruments were in the mail but the package never arrived.At least clean them up and rattle can them the best you can to cover up the overspray .

8 hours of detail would have saved you a lot of grief , It just SHOWS BAD like it is.

The Devil is in the Details.

As far as the RX8 I see a pic of a broken and rusted passenger rear quarter and a pic of a front fender and a nother pic of a freshly painted drivers side rear quarter with the gas door taped off. SOOO this has nothing to do with boats'

Lets see a finished pic of that passenger rear quarter and a out in the daylight pic of the blend on that drivers side quarter?

Lol I thought something looked off on the pics of that car, he buffed the good side and rattle canned his

Craney 10-06-2014 05:10 PM

Why is their never time to do it right, but always time to do it over!!!!

stimleck 10-06-2014 06:03 PM

is it just me or did he show the opposite side in the before and after photos of the car?

Unlimited jd 10-06-2014 06:13 PM

That has been addressed

DYVMASTER 10-06-2014 06:19 PM

And before you say Im just another hater of Phills AWESOMELY MAD SKILLZ, Dave offered to teach you, I offered to open my door to you and give you a place to sleep while school was in session.

Damn Phragle..I work a month at sea and have a month off..maybe I should talk to Dave about coming out and taking some glass/paint lessons..Id be all over that..mouth shut..ears open

cig92 10-06-2014 08:44 PM


Originally Posted by vintage chromoly (Post 4198118)
Every time 315 hits this thread he sheds a bit more light on just how clueless he really is. :hitfan::blahblah:

Butchering in a glass patch on a rusted fender is NOT a proper repair. That's how hack shops lipstick pigs for unknowing folks.

Priceless!

if you have a two dollar rotted out pos car, why in the world would you put a million dollar restoration patch on that pos? you can put a twist on what ever you want, i'm pretty sure the car got done the way phil's boss told him to do it and it also reflects in the price the customer paid for the job. everyone on here that has stated they don't like phil or his work or boat or bike, truck, trailer, sandals, hair, lawn mower, partents, his shirt and what ever the fuk else you don't like about him, have already been heard loud and clear! i'm not sure if its the fact that some of you love thumping your chest time and time again or just trying to prove to the oso community that you are super duper smart? it's time to give it a rest guys, those of you who can't stop posting negativity only look foolish and are loosing respect from others on here that at one time probably had respect for you. everyone one here can read between the lines and if it isn't for you then leave it at that, plain and simple. no need to rant for 75 pages, this is suppose to be a place to help others. i don't care that he is cocky and to some to f off, he will never get the support of those that he did this too, end of story, stop bringing up what he said, did, some 75 pages ago. that's over and done with, i believe he has learned many valuable lessons, had his peepe slapped many of times. those of you that don't care for him should go to another thread, you are only lowering yourselves to a lesser level, you look extremely foolish. if what i'm saying doesn't jive with you them read some of the earlier post from some of the gents that have even more time in the ring than i, they too are not hip on the bashing, it gets super old and tiring. ff, i am going to buy you a punching bag with a picture of phil on it for christmas, hopfully this will help you with your anger towards phil. maybe you can start a new thread, mistress vs. cafe. phil can bring his cafe out to PIB and you guys can race your tubs in the "big stuff" lol.

donzi matt 10-06-2014 08:54 PM


Originally Posted by 315duramax (Post 4198083)
ok so i made it to post 680... im not even giong to bother reading the rest of this train wreck.

in regards to the bottom... i only sprayed half the way back the boat because earlier in the season i was planning on rolling hull speed on it, thats why i didnt care about the over spray on the bottom. anyone who was interested i told them THEY HAD THE OPTION TO HAVE IT PAINTED OR ROLLED. never said this is how you get it....

i disclosed to every single buyer interested the condition of the boat. every little knick knack that COULD be done. the thing is, that im learning , is that everyone wants 100G boat for 15g or they want a 90g boat but dont even have a truck to pull it with....

....and go for my trailer i really dont care... i told everyone its ratty, but it still tows like a dream.....

Phil, I have been defending you all along, but you are not being totally honest at all. I PM'd you about what was left to do to the boat and this is your exact email to me:


Hey Matt. Excuse this email. I can't change it on my phone for some reason. Bottom line, is I need 28,500 for the boat and that's my don't bother me just come and give me cash price. As far as the survey goes, it just lists exactly what works and what doesn't. There are a few panel switches like fuel pump accessory for the factory fuel primer pumps we deleted and the elec pumps are key on. Little bull **** like that. Umm, the tachs stick but again they're origional. One water press doesn't work and one water temp responds slowly. Fuel gauges need senders. There is no cabin door on the boat. Umm. Boat doesn't have a radio head unit but has wired in Bose speakers. Needs a couple light bulbs like in the rear nav light and engine compartment. Little nickle and dime stuff. I wanted to wait and finish it exactly how a buyer would want it. Their choice of dash, speakers radio etc but it didn't really work out like I had planned so it gives the opportunity for someone to finish it how they want. But mechanically everything is sound and runs beautifully. I'm taking it on a poker run this weekend. I haven't ran it because I was waiting on a buyer.
If I had come out and look at this boat based on this description and seen what I have seen in these pictures I would have throttled you for wasting my time. Nothing about the dash, the fade, the bottom needing to be done, the trailer.


I hated watching people give you endless chit about this boat, but when you find yourself in a hole stop digging, don't go rent a backhoe. I want to see you do well and succeed, but this isn't the way to do it. You need to be honest and disclose anything that you know. It is the right way to do it.

To you other guys that are ripping this thing apart, have at it. I'm no longer going to argue about this but suffice to say this will not be the boat I buy.

Full Force 10-06-2014 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by cig92 (Post 4198619)
. ff, i am going to buy you a punching bag with a picture of phil on it for christmas, hopfully this will help you with your anger towards phil. maybe you can start a new thread, mistress vs. cafe. phil can bring his cafe out to PIB and you guys can race your tubs in the "big stuff" lol.

Again I am targeted lol

I don't have anger towards him, just bugs me he lies and hides stuff, or makes light of what is hackwork, I seriously cannot n=believe you back this nonsense..if he showed up at the Island I would sit and have a beer with him, I never hold grudges life is too short... since you are backing him so much give him a call and tell him to stop with the BS, if this was someone else you would probably be harassing them for doing what Phil is doing.... come on... do you honestly think the boat looks that good? high quality and not hacked at all? I don't think you do, just will not admit it.... if you took him your boat for a high quality job, came back for it in a month and saw that type of work would you pay? yep didn't think so

Sick Stinger 10-06-2014 09:06 PM

No one like or respects me any how so rip away I may. Keep up the low class work. No cabin door that was NEVER stated. WTF really no door?

Sick Stinger 10-06-2014 09:09 PM

Cig let him paint the OLD over get it Custom guy with sweet paint and kick @ss graffix from an awesome shop of 1 employee and 1 boat to date. Oh wait the biz doesn't even exist


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