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CPM 07-24-2015 08:18 AM

New Guy 95 Cafe
 
New guy to the site I just purchased a 95 Café Racer and might have a few questions from time to time for the Cig experts, I have quite a bit of experience with a number of boats and combinations but new to Cigarettes and their characteristics, The boat now has some made up 500hp looking engines but seems to run decent and Bravos, for now its just clean up and run it, come this winter Ill pull it down for a repower and XR's

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...ps42hlmiii.jpg

F-2 Speedy 07-24-2015 08:22 AM

Congrats, welcome to the Cig nation

CPM 07-24-2015 08:33 AM


Originally Posted by 33outlawsst (Post 4333583)
Congrats, welcome to the Cig nation

Thanks feels good to get back into something with a little power even if its low... I use to have a shop in Havasu and it was a everyday thing for many years when I got out of the business I took a 8 year break now I remember why I loved it so much....

ohh wow 07-24-2015 09:36 AM

Congratulations on your Cigarette. I really like my Cafe Racer.

BDiggity 07-24-2015 09:40 AM

Looks great, congrats!

CIG3 07-24-2015 12:32 PM

Love the all white. Congradulations

What Year?

shepnic74 07-24-2015 01:32 PM

Congrats nice cafe. Take it easy getting on plane so the bravos last the summer and enjoy the ride of your new to you cig. Nice boat.

thisistank 07-24-2015 02:17 PM

Congrats! Love cafés!

What shop in Havasu and where you at now?
And, where's the boat from? More pics?

thisistank 07-24-2015 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by CIG3 (Post 4333695)
Love the all white. Congradulations

What Year?

How's that reading comprehension working out??

Lol

Just f'n with you. ;)

J-Bonz 07-24-2015 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by CIG3 (Post 4333695)
Love the all white. Congradulations

What Year?

Ditto! The boat looks Great!

Drake22.250 07-24-2015 02:27 PM

Nice ride, like it. Enjoy

Biff 07-24-2015 05:46 PM


Originally Posted by CPM (Post 4333580)
New guy to the site I just purchased a 95 Café Racer and might have a few questions from time to time for the Cig experts, I have quite a bit of experience with a number of boats and combinations but new to Cigarettes and their characteristics, The boat now has some made up 500hp looking engines but seems to run decent and Bravos, for now its just clean up and run it, come this winter Ill pull it down for a repower and XR's

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...ps42hlmiii.jpg

Where was that boat hiding?!? I think I cover most of the sites on line and I don't remember seeing that beauty. Love the all white.

Frequency 07-24-2015 05:47 PM

Nice looking Café, congrats. They are great boats. All white with the prominent Cig logo is sharp!

seafordguy 07-25-2015 07:56 AM

Looks good man.....congrats. Al the cool kids have cafes

4195 07-25-2015 09:28 AM

Loved my Cafe! Congrats enjoy the hell outta that thing.

Xtreme Air 07-25-2015 06:37 PM

Best of Luck with that beutiful ride..

CPM 07-27-2015 07:44 AM


Originally Posted by thisistank (Post 4333731)
Congrats! Love cafés!

What shop in Havasu and where you at now?
And, where's the boat from? More pics?

Clarks Performance Marine, in Havasu I am not in the business anymore it was fun I just got burnt out. We were more a hard core shop and not so much general service, engines drives and a lot of R&D with Dan Jones and Procharger

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...ass/shopAZ.jpg

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CPM 07-27-2015 07:54 AM

Thanks All!! I would have got back sooner but I was boating all weekend... The boat needs a few things but I am not going to pull it apart during season It really needs some prop help but with the current power I will just leave it be for now. Seems to be a light 70's boat at my local lake 4900 feet.

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...psewvprfk5.jpg

thisistank 07-27-2015 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by CPM (Post 4334561)
Thanks All!! I would have got back sooner but I was boating all weekend... The boat needs a few things but I am not going to pull it apart during season It really needs some prop help but with the current power I will just leave it be for now. Seems to be a light 70's boat at my local lake 4900 feet.

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...psewvprfk5.jpg

Speed actually sounds about right. 500efi cafe with bravo runs 73-74.

Where's the boats home now? What lake?

CPM 07-27-2015 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by thisistank (Post 4334773)
Speed actually sounds about right. 500efi cafe with bravo runs 73-74.

Where's the boats home now? What lake?

I am in Utah now that lake is Pineview a bit small but close to my house

CPM 07-28-2015 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by Biff (Post 4333804)
Where was that boat hiding?!? I think I cover most of the sites on line and I don't remember seeing that beauty. Love the all white.

You probably had seen it, it had some decal graphics in red that I did not care for the all white seems better to me than the decals. The boat was at GT's for a while it needs some help in the cockpit interior not torn up just old. I will pull engines and cockpit interior this winter for some clean up and changes. Seems the boat has basically sat since 99 with the old owner updating a lot of items but not really used, I was amazed I dint have to really do anything to get it back on the water other than I had to do a jet change they had 99's square I cant see how it even ran the way it did, I took it down to stock HP500 Jetting and runs great like that and the transom stays white. For what it is and what I paid I am extremely happy and ready to rip it apart come winter....

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...psjifptpoy.jpg
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38cigmike 07-28-2015 09:17 AM

Very nice and congratulations!

thisistank 07-28-2015 02:15 PM

Ah! I know the boat. Thank god those graphics were vinyl!!! Looks a million times better. Nice, clean boat.

Relaxing 07-28-2015 02:35 PM

Nice ride, enjoy

CPM 07-28-2015 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by thisistank (Post 4335383)
Ah! I know the boat. Thank god those graphics were vinyl!!! Looks a million times better. Nice, clean boat.

Yes I agree, The guy I bought it from had it for sale a while in So Cal very nice guy seems he just spent a bunch of money on it and wanted it gone gave me a hell of a deal, I seem to do that with olds cars all the time...

thisistank 07-28-2015 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by CPM (Post 4335410)
Yes I agree, The guy I bought it from had it for sale a while in So Cal very nice guy seems he just spent a bunch of money on it and wanted it gone gave me a hell of a deal, I seem to do that with olds cars all the time...

I looked at that boat a bunch. It looked super clean and the price seemed very good for all it was. Surprised it hasn't sold quicker. Gary Teague is a straight shooter and does good work. I assume the two things that worked against it selling quicker were those graphics that everyone thought was paint and it's location in so cal

Good buy for sure!

Biff 07-29-2015 04:31 PM


Originally Posted by CPM (Post 4335217)
You probably had seen it, it had some decal graphics in red that I did not care for the all white seems better to me than the decals. The boat was at GT's for a while it needs some help in the cockpit interior not torn up just old. I will pull engines and cockpit interior this winter for some clean up and changes. Seems the boat has basically sat since 99 with the old owner updating a lot of items but not really used, I was amazed I dint have to really do anything to get it back on the water other than I had to do a jet change they had 99's square I cant see how it even ran the way it did, I took it down to stock HP500 Jetting and runs great like that and the transom stays white. For what it is and what I paid I am extremely happy and ready to rip it apart come winter....

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...psjifptpoy.jpg
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...psdvqonoey.jpg
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...psf98cgclq.jpg

OK, now I remember the boat. Congratulations! It looks really good in the all white. Enjoy it.

CPM 12-29-2015 08:46 AM

Well its winter and I will be pulling the boat apart soon ( January ) soon as I finish up a old Camaro in my shop, I am going to do some mild engine upgrades with some 177 Blowers don't cry they are heat pumps I was a dealer for years and for a mild upgrade they work fine, I rounded up a used pair rebuilt them and changed out the upper pulleys to 2.65 I will pull engines out for a good inspection of transom couplers engine internals etc, Its a 95 Café so I do not want to dump a pile of money into it but enough to make it shine again and it needs a 10mph gain, at 5 psi and no mufflers I think I will be there.

My plans are

Pull engines heads inspect repair freshen as needed change camshafts if needed 177 blowers MSD ignitions, might install aluminum heads not sure yet. Some esthetic clean up remote oil filters wiring etc...

Cockpit reupholster as original cabin is like new 100% perfect

Gel coat needs attention... here is where I am confused.. Keep it White? Half 90 Red, or this... just not sure yet

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...psbdfxizwb.jpg

CPM 12-29-2015 09:05 AM

For the engines I have most of the stuff needed already MSD's Blowers timing covers, and I did get some nice billet remote filter mounts from Gellner he had left over from a project, I will be casting up some rear head mount MSD box mounts I have a small foundry and will post up some pics building patterns and casting for some winter reading, I still have plenty of engine bearings and gaskets from the store left over in all sizes so I should be good there also. I am going to keep the power at mild level I do not want to put 40K in drives on a 50K boat, this will be a budget clean up, Ill post pictures as I go.

Blowers cleaned up nice engine is a spare in shop blower just sitting on it while I make some items

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...pszdx4qjqt.jpg

Nykamp 12-29-2015 11:25 AM

Great looking Cafe!

snowhammer 12-29-2015 03:16 PM

Very cool, look forward to the foundry write up!

SkaterMike82 12-29-2015 03:51 PM

White will always sell. 90mph red & white scheme is timeless.

BajaFresh 12-29-2015 07:03 PM

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Congratulations on a great buy.

Yes, those were some ugly graffics. I looked at that boat at GT but you beat me to it! I'm probably going to snag the Bullet he has there in a month or two. Would have rather had a Cafe though.

You ever going to bring it back down here to do an ocean run? We do Dana Pt on Memorial Day, also SCOPE poker run in San Diego (hopefully again this year) in the fall.

Should be a pretty nice boat when you're done with it!

315duramax 12-29-2015 07:04 PM

man i love the cabins to a 90's cafe. they are so practical and you can actually use them

CPM 12-30-2015 07:11 AM


Originally Posted by BajaFresh (Post 4389019)
Congratulations on a great buy.

Yes, those were some ugly graffics. I looked at that boat at GT but you beat me to it! I'm probably going to snag the Bullet he has there in a month or two. Would have rather had a Cafe though.

You ever going to bring it back down here to do an ocean run? We do Dana Pt on Memorial Day, also SCOPE poker run in San Diego (hopefully again this year) in the fall.

Should be a pretty nice boat when you're done with it!


That is a evil reminder of how ugly and what a ***** it was to get those ugly decals off..... After peeling them off I used chemicals and I have a 24hp steam cleaner took a whole Saturday to get the glue off....

kreed 12-30-2015 07:42 AM


Originally Posted by CPM (Post 4388882)
For the engines I have most of the stuff needed already MSD's Blowers timing covers, and I did get some nice billet remote filter mounts from Gellner he had left over from a project, I will be casting up some rear head mount MSD box mounts I have a small foundry and will post up some pics building patterns and casting for some winter reading, I still have plenty of engine bearings and gaskets from the store left over in all sizes so I should be good there also. I am going to keep the power at mild level I do not want to put 40K in drives on a 50K boat, this will be a budget clean up, Ill post pictures as I go.

Blowers cleaned up nice engine is a spare in shop blower just sitting on it while I make some items

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...pszdx4qjqt.jpg


Those 177's actually work pretty good if your looking for mild power. We made 575 HP with 454's and Comp Cams cam upgrades.Really simple engines and pushed my Bullet to 80 MPH. I was happy with them to say the least. Good luck with the Café, looks like you have a nice piece to start with. Always loved the Café.

1MOSES1 12-30-2015 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by 315duramax (Post 4389020)
man i love the cabins to a 90's cafe. they are so practical and you can actually use them

Something we can finally agree upon. Not to mention the 1990's TG's. Very nice cabin layouts and functional.

CPM 12-31-2015 07:16 AM

I have been wanting this part for a while so I decided to take the time and pattern it for the Cig engines, Nothing special but I wanted a thick thermostat block off plate one if wanted would be thick enough to machine and tap the center to any size if needed. I started by making a simple wood pattern with draft then clear coted it and wet sanded to not have any grain when molding the housing looks good I will machine the mounting holes so they are recessed and use a stainless allen head that will be flush.

I had already made this pattern so no real process when I do the MSD Mounting bracket ill do some step by step pics

Basic pattern this is a easy one

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...psqx1ajwoy.jpg

First test pattern and pour turned out good

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Side by side

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Ill be using the npt fitting in intakes so just a block off plate might drill and tap center for H20 sensor

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...psvcftibea.jpg

Simple but will be a nice part

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...psbpue5svz.jpg

CPM 02-01-2016 08:44 AM

Started working on the MSD Bracket pattern, I want a 90* bracket that bolts to the back of the head placing the MSD in this basic location

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...psj4dcivzc.png

CPM 02-01-2016 08:52 AM

I pulled out my mock up engine made sure it was level to start with, I figure I should have this pattern done in a week and do a test pour this coming weekend if things dry fast enough.

First I laminated some thin finish plywood in a cross grain direction and stuck it in my press for a day for my material I will be using, then I cheated and used a head mount oil filter bracket for a start of my shape.

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...psusg2omy9.jpg

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