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Old 09-15-2016 | 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 38Raptor
...it's more like an even worse "hop" than a porpoise...very similar to your Avatar...not a good feeling at those speeds!!!
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Old 09-15-2016 | 03:11 PM
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Someone I know had a nice idea to lengthen the front inner lifting strakes . On the Fountains they extend much further down the boat.
You can see the water leaves the front strakes and the bow falls only to be lifted again. This also may be the hop 39Raptor was referring to.. feels more like a hop then porpoise to me anyway.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkFZo9x-vWg&feature=youtu.be

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Old 09-15-2016 | 03:28 PM
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How fast were you going there? 65mph?

Be nice if we could solve this one, once and for all. I hate the "hop"
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Old 09-15-2016 | 03:39 PM
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MPH was Mid 80`s I think.
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Old 09-15-2016 | 05:01 PM
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I ran a Kevlar gun this weekend with bravos and 600sc's. Hop or porpoise was worse than any other gun I've been on. Drives are real high, this was an early lip ship boat. Going to put a 1" spacer in and lab the props see how it is. Could extend the strakes a little further and engineer some rocker into them to hold the bow down a little
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Old 09-15-2016 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL
MPH was Mid 80`s I think.
our top gun has some hop but can often be corrected with tabs and drive height. in the video I bet if you tucked in the drives it would eliminate a lot of what you see. granted it's not conducive to going fast.
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Old 09-16-2016 | 07:01 AM
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Is this just a result of taking what was designed to be a 75mph boat back in the day and trying to run them over 90mph? Did the 90mph guns have a modified or tweaked bottom in order to offset this negative ride attribute? Would be nice if one of the "90" owners chimed in on this. (They were staggered, that would affect the balance).

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Old 09-16-2016 | 07:48 AM
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They're not built to run on rivers and small lakes. Get those boats in any chop and porpoise will be gone
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Old 09-16-2016 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by frickstyle
Is this just a result of taking what was designed to be a 75mph boat back in the day and trying to run them over 90mph? Did the 90mph guns have a modified or tweaked bottom in order to offset this negative ride attribute? Would be nice if one of the "90" owners chimed in on this. (They were staggered, that would affect the balance).

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They were first built as race boats that went 90 and later became pleasure boats.
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Old 09-16-2016 | 08:37 AM
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Every Cigarette Ive owned porpoised at cruising speed, especially in flat water..Old School was definitely a different animal with the 6's.
Now I have a 35 Fountain(flat bottom), and it does the same thing. I usually bump the tabs down til it stops and then gradually bring them up. OR if I speed up, the porpoise will stop that way too.
With a 1-2 ft chop,they all ride much better...... Ive also notice, that the Fountain gives a "flater" ride than the Cigarette when going high speeds.Flat bottom Cigarettes always seemed to ride "bow up".
I am a river rat, so the flat fresh water really isnt what these boats were built for.

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