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Full Force 11-20-2016 08:01 AM

35 Mistress repower... take 3....
 
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So as most know I have yet to be happy with my builds and found some issues that are causing me to replace cams and do headwork... changing a few other things..overall had a problem free 65 hours on engines but seen wear on cams so I tore things apart..

The parts choices and specs are in a good buddys hands that has mad much success the past 20 years of building, hoping for better results this round as he has never let anyone down on expectations..

The plans include:
existing shortblocks untouched.
Hand port and cleanup of the AFR 325 heads, new valve jobs and new springs, flow heads get real numbers
Port and portmatch new Brodix HV2000 intakes
send old cams back to get replacements and specs TBD still
either going to short travel hydraulic or solid roller this time to get better results that is also TBD
selling Scorpion rockers and going to use Comp or Crower as I can get good pricing
Hoping if I stay HRC I can keep base circle the same and reuse my expensive Trend pushrods.
same carbs 1050 Quickfuel 4150 style
might convert exhaust to dry or find headers that me be following winter of 2017 as this cost is going to add up..

As for results? I would be happy to see at least 1 mph gain over what I had... plan to dyno again if the funds are there to do so... this is my last attempt at this to be what I wanted from beginning... I hope it's worth it since I am fed up with my build situation..

first pic of nice parts lol

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1989mach1 11-20-2016 08:47 AM

Well tim people say third times a charm or some chit like that. U wI'll get it right and both you and frick will have a good 2017. I can feel it

Full Force 11-20-2016 09:00 AM

I hope so, I had a good season until I popped that trans... I boated EVERY weekend... but still annoyed at engines even thought no issues yet

ICDEDPPL 11-20-2016 09:33 AM

Boats, it`s definitely a love HATE relationship.
Good luck man

Full Force 11-20-2016 09:46 AM

Thanks Dan, hoping for the best lol

donzi matt 11-20-2016 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by Full Force (Post 4502521)
So as most know I have yet to be happy with my builds and found some issues that are causing me to replace cams and do headwork... changing a few other things..overall had a problem free 65 hours on engines but seen wear on cams so I tore things apart..

The parts choices and specs are in a good buddys hands that has mad much success the past 20 years of building, hoping for better results this round as he has never let anyone down on expectations..

The plans include:
existing shortblocks untouched.
Hand port and cleanup of the AFR 325 heads, new valve jobs and new springs, flow heads get real numbers
Port and portmatch new Brodix HV2000 intakes
send old cams back to get replacements and specs TBD still
either going to short travel hydraulic or solid roller this time to get better results that is also TBD
selling Scorpion rockers and going to use Comp or Crower as I can get good pricing
Hoping if I stay HRC I can keep base circle the same and reuse my expensive Trend pushrods.
same carbs 1050 Quickfuel 4150 style
might convert exhaust to dry or find headers that me be following winter of 2017 as this cost is going to add up..

As for results? I would be happy to see at least 1 mph gain over what I had... plan to dyno again if the funds are there to do so... this is my last attempt at this to be what I wanted from beginning... I hope it's worth it since I am fed up with my build situation..

first pic of nice parts lol

[ATTACH=CONFIG]561843[/ATTACH]

I would imagine if the new cam has similar lift to the old the base circle should stay relatively close to the same so hopefully you can reuse the pushrods. I sincerely hope you get the results you would like this time around, it seems like you are on the right track. Good luck!

Full Force 11-20-2016 02:06 PM

Thx, I am using a buddy that builds engines with much success to do the work to heads and spec cams, not a salesman lol

I think lift may be similar to keep BC but duration I expect increase a bit for sure.

this nightmare needs to be over.



Originally Posted by donzi matt (Post 4502567)
I would imagine if the new cam has similar lift to the old the base circle should stay relatively close to the same so hopefully you can reuse the pushrods. I sincerely hope you get the results you would like this time around, it seems like you are on the right track. Good luck!


Rick G 11-20-2016 04:33 PM

Nice intakes Tim. I have the dart intakes they look like they
flow better May have to upgrade.
Cheers RG.

Full Force 11-20-2016 05:23 PM

Thx, these are supposed to be very good intakes, plus the portwork that's being done, I keep trying to not get my hopes up about results...


Originally Posted by Rick G (Post 4502640)
Nice intakes Tim. I have the dart intakes they look like they
flow better May have to upgrade.
Cheers RG.


1989mach1 11-20-2016 07:17 PM

Good thinking keep your hopes low that way when you have good results it will feel better lol

stimleck 11-20-2016 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by Full Force (Post 4502521)
So as most know I have yet to be happy with my builds and found some issues that are causing me to replace cams and do headwork... changing a few other things..overall had a problem free 65 hours on engines but seen wear on cams so I tore things apart..

The parts choices and specs are in a good buddys hands that has mad much success the past 20 years of building, hoping for better results this round as he has never let anyone down on expectations..

The plans include:
existing shortblocks untouched.
Hand port and cleanup of the AFR 325 heads, new valve jobs and new springs, flow heads get real numbers
Port and portmatch new Brodix HV2000 intakes
send old cams back to get replacements and specs TBD still
either going to short travel hydraulic or solid roller this time to get better results that is also TBD
selling Scorpion rockers and going to use Comp or Crower as I can get good pricing
Hoping if I stay HRC I can keep base circle the same and reuse my expensive Trend pushrods.
same carbs 1050 Quickfuel 4150 style
might convert exhaust to dry or find headers that me be following winter of 2017 as this cost is going to add up..

As for results? I would be happy to see at least 1 mph gain over what I had... plan to dyno again if the funds are there to do so... this is my last attempt at this to be what I wanted from beginning... I hope it's worth it since I am fed up with my build situation..

first pic of nice parts lol

[ATTACH=CONFIG]561843[/ATTACH]

you are determined Ill give you that, easier to just buy dans boat lol

Full Force 11-20-2016 08:27 PM

exactly LOL


Originally Posted by 1989mach1 (Post 4502679)
Good thinking keep your hopes low that way when you have good results it will feel better lol


Full Force 11-20-2016 08:29 PM

I never give up on anything, never have... Always try to better anything I do.... now I will say the older I get it becomes a thought at times to be like WTF am I doing.... but guess what.... you only live once... live it good!!


Originally Posted by stimleck (Post 4502696)
you are determined Ill give you that, easier to just buy dans boat lol


SB 11-20-2016 08:52 PM

Do you have a link to your previous build ? I may have missed it. :D

Full Force 11-20-2016 09:20 PM

Basically lots of hate lol


Originally Posted by SB (Post 4502711)
Do you have a link to your previous build ? I may have missed it. :D


Full Force 11-23-2016 08:59 AM

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Full Force 11-23-2016 09:31 AM

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Full Force 12-29-2016 06:25 PM

update as of now...

Cam motion says cams are fine, the marks would not have gotten worse, and some guys say they have seem much worse with no issues, that being said cams still being changed as out of 5 cam companies we have talked to all but one said 241/246 is too small for a 540 to see 6000 rpm especially in a heavy bot like mine..

heads are ported and flowed, looking at cams now, not releasing them details at the moment at least until it is decided, if at all..
lidters will be short trave HR, every cam company said thats the way to go with HR these days, or go solid... but I am not going solid.

intakes cleaned up and portmatched to heads, compression getting bumped to 9.7

I am taking measures to ensure good ending results, I am not gonna deal with guys telling me I am a hack, doing it wrong or whatever, one thing I learned last year is everyone has an opinion and in the end I consider it all and process accordingly, I thank many for the help and advice, the hates, well go hate somewhere else, some want me to fail bad it makes me sick, I post my story for myself and others to learn from, not get my azz handed to me because I didn't take someones advice, I have a very succesful person involved so I think I will have better results, lets hope!

Guys I been through hell and back with this and honestly am done with the negativity about it, telling me I am doing it wrong, I can't build engines and all that, they ran almost 2 full seasons with zero issues until I pulled things apart, I have addressed things that needed addressed and they are going back together, end of the story. The BS has to stop.

1989mach1 12-29-2016 06:48 PM

Now we just need summer to come so we can start the Justin, tim, ron and Don party.... two cigs two donzis and a chit load of beer at the casino.....:evilb:

1989mach1 12-29-2016 06:49 PM

Big water runing baby.... just have to get nikki really drunk first lol

frickstyle 12-30-2016 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by 1989mach1 (Post 4514083)
Now we just need summer to come so we can start the Justin, tim, ron and Don party.... two cigs two donzis and a chit load of beer at the casino.....:evilb:

I like the sound of that. My Summer will revolve around boating this season.

Ron, are you going to leave your dock this year?

1989mach1 12-30-2016 12:12 PM

Wow that hurts....are you going to have two motors running and good batterys....

Full Force 12-30-2016 02:37 PM

Lololollol

DonziChick 01-08-2017 07:17 PM

Hey Tim, I'd tell you about all the fun that I just had racking up hours on my outboard powered fish boat....if you would listen.....




....Tony

Full Force 01-08-2017 07:49 PM

lol I don't ever see having outboards... just not me

1989mach1 01-08-2017 09:38 PM

I will take 2 400s hanging off the back of a 32 or 36 cat. That could be fun. I seen one on here that was a walk through open bow that looked bad a$$ and would make for a sweet day boat.

Full Force 02-20-2017 03:28 PM

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ham_r_down01 02-20-2017 03:53 PM

My chick is moving this weekend. Sounds like I'll have plenty of Island time this year.

Full Force 02-20-2017 07:19 PM

Oops?

ham_r_down01 02-20-2017 09:33 PM

Meh... I did everything I could do. Grew a lot and changed a lot in the last year. Love her to death, but she's gotta get past the past before we can grow.

1989mach1 02-21-2017 03:19 PM

Every thing happens for a reason. Almost boating time

Craney 02-21-2017 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by Full Force (Post 4530845)
Getting there... little by little...[ATTACH=CONFIG]564937[/ATTACH]

Starting to look good,what kind crossover do you have with the water to the starboard side?

Full Force 02-22-2017 08:17 PM

Stainless marine, I wish they entered on the other side, gonna change that next year..


Originally Posted by Craney (Post 4531180)
Starting to look good,what kind crossover do you have with the water to the starboard side?


Craney 02-23-2017 07:44 PM


Originally Posted by Full Force (Post 4531621)
Stainless marine, I wish they entered on the other side, gonna change that next year..

I have a like new set with the water line on the port side, would you like to trade I like the water on the starboard side.I can send you pics.

Full Force 02-23-2017 08:03 PM

Text me pics if you can 440-476-4114 thx bud

Craney 03-02-2017 11:42 AM

Thanks Tim I got the crossovers today,now I can time it with out a major production .:cool-smiley-027:

Full Force 03-02-2017 12:47 PM


Originally Posted by Craney (Post 4533853)
Thanks Tim I got the crossovers today,now I can time it with out a major production .:cool-smiley-027:

Lol all good! I have tons of space so it's easy for me to climb around...

5050 03-18-2017 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by Full Force (Post 4530845)
Getting there... little by little...[ATTACH=CONFIG]564937[/ATTACH]

Dyno yet??

frickstyle 03-18-2017 12:59 PM

Yeah, seriously, WTF?

315duramax 03-20-2017 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by 5050 (Post 4538580)
Dyno yet??

dad doesn't have the money for dyno.

DAD, haven't you figured out its better to pay someone to do this? hope your boats tuned up and ready to go for pound fest!


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