Dan,
I told myself I was not even going to get involved with this thread but here I am. After this I am out.
I should not even be in this situation because someone is pissed I did not take their offer, this makes no sense who does this?

Lets start with this mouth claims it is not as described beware! Here is the listing.



2005 Cigarette Top Gun · Driven NaN miles



2005 Top Gun Unlimited Center Steer

2006 Myco trailer new tires, bearings and brakes.

NO ENGINES OR DRIVES

ITS transom assemblies for bravo drives attached

Comes with:

Engine mounts

Driveshafts

Exhaust manifolds

Exhaust tails

New cockpit cover

New fusion stereo head unit

JL audio speakers

Everything will be in boat to install your engines and drives.

Titles for both boat and trailer are in hand

Thank you



Anyways here it goes.

I am not going to ramble on and bash the character of Mouth (perfect name for him) here as much as I want to I am going to deal with his less then truthful post. Seeing how he felt it so important to get on OSO and save the world from buying this 39 Gun simply because I would not take his offer. I bet you this, if he would have paid the 110 and took it home, he would be on here boosting about his beautiful 39 gun he got and he would let you all know how excited he is to be part of the Cig family! FYI this is not the first go with this guy, the first week I listed he offered me $140K then backed out, I lower price he comes back offers $120K at this time my gut told me he was going to be a pain in the ass and I should not even deal with him but I did and here we are. He gets his survey done he is told boat is sound drives out here and he seems happy to becoming out says nothing about the new price he wanted to pay, mind you he was willing to pay $140K just two weeks before, he makes zero sense. Well, he was not at my shop 5 minutes and I knew where this going, he had no intention of giving me $120,000.00 he did however waste weeks of my time. I blame myself for dealing with this guy.



The surveyor....... Let me start with this the guy he hired to do this survey is known for being very strict with boats he is not very well-liked by any marinas in the area, (not sure they like any surveyor) but this one is a particular pain in the ass, in fact he is not even allowed to do survey’s at least two Marinas I know of. So, this surveyor who is disliked by Marinas did tell Mouth the boat is absolutely structurally sound. Please read Mouths last sentence boat is in average condition not bad from such a strict surveyor! Mouth wanted a Mint 39 gun for a 100K with no work needed minus drives and engines, that will never happen.



There is not 30 knicks on the starboard side of this boat that is just a complete lie. Anyone feel free to drive to Antioch to see for yourself. this boat has not seen the water since Mike owned it only been in storage.

I have to laugh at the missing hardware comment on the trailer, what is missing? Some nuts off the the carriage bolts holding the bunks on already spent the $5.00 at ace on these nuts.
As far as the "high" moisture readings it did rain the day before he came there was actually water still dripping out of the drain plug right where the center most lower stringer is. Nothing wrong with this hull at all.

This post by Mouth is just wrong period.

This is not my first go at this, I am a Cig lover rehabbed enough of them to tell you I do know just a tad about this world and I would not have bought this boat if it was a bad as Mouth makes it sound.
I was actually going to put #6 drives on this thing, I have two sets in my shop, this was until I bought the triple 600 05 gun in Lake Havasu the blue and white one. I will be converting to twins with #6 drives and a complete rehab stayed tuned.

I did take a deposit on the boat today from a really nice guy who is putting Arneson’s on it with some big fresh power going to be fun build for the guy and he plans on getting in the water this year believe it or not.

Oh by the way I did tell the new buyer to feel free to get a hold of the surveyor Mouth hired if he so desires to get a copy. I also told him about Mouth's post on OSO told him feel free to read it.



Thank you!

There`s always 2 sides to every story , thanx for telling yours.

btw, Ive been boating on the chain last few weekends. Wouldn`t take the cig there but the Yamaha is prefect .

So what happened to Endeavour32 and this boat?
He was prop testing and all that, seemed enthused about it.
He move on to something else? Why?

I had to block the the seller because of his messages to me. I don't think sellers like surveyors no matter what. the boat looks great from 50 but i give you my word a at least 30 spots on starboard side. as soon as i get to 10 posts ill post pics of the text, email exchange, close ups of the pics of the boat. My offer of 100k was in cash and a strong offer. In the end it wasn't a waste of a trip for me. i got to see family and friends and eat well

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Subject: Re: mouth900rr has sent a question about item #225087449742, ending on Jul-30-22 17:28:10 PDT - Cigarette 39 Top Gun Unlimeted

 Lol just stop you are not getting this boat for 85k
I am very aware of what this boat needs, it’s okay if this is to much boat for you, wasting my time like you did is wrong.
You are very naive if you thought you were going to get a mint condition 39 Unlimited hull without power for even remotely close to a 100k.
Think about what you are saying for a sec and realize the hull you are referring to it is a Cigarette 39 Unlimited this is not a scarab hull.
Huge difference no one looks twice at a scarab unless they know nothing about boats at all, you what they do stare at Cigarettes the one and only.
Your list below is piddly **** lights and trailer hardware who cares. The trailer is fine and will get home just fine.
As far as interior it is an 05 what did you expect? To top it off you had a survey you knew the condition of the interior before you came here you have wasted weeks of my time! I had a guy here with 114,000 done deal and I waited for you, you ****ed me now you have the balls to offer 85K thru EBay! Who does that?
My gut told me you would do this and I did not listen to it.
You went around and called a bunch of people in Antioch to check on my character that is funny ****, you just strung me along and wasted my time I guess I should have asked about your character to these people.You do realize you said many things that make me realize you do not know a lot about what you are looking at or offshore boats in general.
Also stop even trying to compare a 39 to a 38 do your homework on what you are looking at.
I do not believe you had any intention of following thru with your offer of 120.
I’ll be sure to go to Ace and spend the 5.00 on the nuts for the bunks.
Speakers are fine.
I will make sure and also spend the extra 100.00 to replace those lenses that prompted the 85k offer
Next time I will go with my gut I knew I was right about how this would end with you
This boat is a bargain at 120 bro, one together for 250 most likely also needs 20-30 K worth of work.
So far you made two offers and backed out of both.
Look at the bright side you will save gas money on your way home.