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87CigCafe 04-25-2024 08:44 AM

Yep!
 

Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix (Post 4896505)
Built not bought.


as I like to say sometimes “ don’t laugh it’s paid for “ :D

87CigCafe 04-25-2024 08:46 AM

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...b8cd31d6d.jpeg
got some of the other things on my list to fix checked out last night. Cabin lighting and cockpit lighting. Most was already existing so I just had to re do/ re wire of it. Still trying to figure out my dash lights they don’t want to corporate yet it seems. Hope to splash tomorrow morning! Fingers crossed

jeff32 04-25-2024 11:37 AM

Good luck and have fun !

87CigCafe 04-25-2024 03:53 PM

One more step.
 
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...e42396373.jpeg
installed red dresses for the cockpit floor and cuddy floor. Been wrapped up in the packing since 2016 or 17 when the interior got red done. I think it compliments it well!

MyIsland3 04-25-2024 04:40 PM

Man, you are making great headway! Yes that red does compliment the interior very well. Looks great. Good luck on the dunk in the water.

87CigCafe 04-25-2024 04:47 PM

I’m trying!
 

Originally Posted by MyIsland3 (Post 4896554)
Man, you are making great headway! Yes that red does compliment the interior very well. Looks great. Good luck on the dunk in the water.


I’m trying man! I give my self 2-3 hours a day on her but some days turn into 10-12hr days and nights just picking away at it a little at a time! I’m as nervous as a cat covering up s*** about dunking her after all I’ve been through with this dern thing most people would have prolly walked away lol! but I gotta do it sooner or later lol! Then I can finally put the engine hatch back on I took off nearly 3yrs ago! Then I can really focus on cosmetics and repairing or replacing the trailer!

87CigCafe 04-26-2024 05:30 PM

Happy!
 
Happy day! Don’t mind my ugly mug! But she runs very very good!! I am overly happy all the way around! Couple items to tidy up but other than that I am giving the thumbs up for now!
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...8101d9be3.jpeg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...0abc57136.jpeg

Rhythm and Blues 04-26-2024 05:45 PM

Congrats! Just in time; you must be over the moon!!

1Zoom 04-27-2024 06:43 AM

Congratulations, nice job. Enjoy it.

Helmwurst 04-27-2024 09:12 AM

Classic ! Post a sound video when you get the chance.

87CigCafe 04-28-2024 09:01 AM

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...4eb1b95ff.jpeg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...668009223.jpeg
she did great yesterday and the wife approves finally after all this time LOL seen 75+mph on 3 different gps’s the 24p bravos I need to go up a pitch or two I believe we will see. Comes out of the hole in seconds. Planes well. So happy about this dang thing! Next project is getting the hatch back on!

boatnt 04-28-2024 09:16 AM

Good job and good for you for hanging in there and not letting your dealings with that other guy put a bad taste in your mouth and walk away from it, enjoy!

87CigCafe 04-28-2024 06:01 PM

Yep
 
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...b9ab97d91.jpeg
Successful weekend! She did absolutely wonderful! Stayed in the water from Friday afternoon till Sunday night no issues ( got a fouok gauges to fix but otherwise all seems almost perfect) SO HAPPY!

F-2 Speedy 04-28-2024 06:54 PM

Good job Alex

87CigCafe 04-28-2024 06:57 PM

!
 

Originally Posted by F-2 Speedy (Post 4896765)
Good job Alex


thanks brother means a lot! Thank you for your help along the way as well!!

MyIsland3 04-28-2024 07:24 PM

Boat looks great! All your hard work paid off. What a sense of accomplishment you must feel. Awesome!

J-Bonz 04-28-2024 07:48 PM

Awesome work! You gotta be super happy

Griff 04-28-2024 11:47 PM


Originally Posted by 87CigCafe (Post 4896316)
I have everything ready to go for a test splash. Got to fire back off and test steering and possibly bleed out any air etc and just do one more good check of EVERYTHING before she pulls out of the shop maybe this week! Fingers crossed! She’s not as cool or as nice as any of yalls but I’m proud of this roller coaster of a boat LOL
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...2abd63623.jpeg

Glad to see it finally on the water.
BTW, I have heard running 2 tie bars can cause binding. Not 100% sure though.

Brad Christy 04-29-2024 05:34 AM


Originally Posted by 87CigCafe (Post 4896316)
I have everything ready to go for a test splash. Got to fire back off and test steering and possibly bleed out any air etc and just do one more good check of EVERYTHING before she pulls out of the shop maybe this week! Fingers crossed! She’s not as cool or as nice as any of yalls but I’m proud of this roller coaster of a boat LOL
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...2abd63623.jpeg


Originally Posted by Griff (Post 4896784)
Glad to see it finally on the water.
BTW, I have heard running 2 tie bars can cause binding. Not 100% sure though.

Griff,

I thought the same thing. My toolmaker brain saw that, and the fact that they are two different lengths, I started doing hypothetical trig in my head and.... I can't imagine they don't conflict with each other, imparting significant stress on all parts involved.

87CigCafe,

Are you still running both tiebars?

Thanks. Brad.

87CigCafe 04-29-2024 08:00 AM

Yes
 

Originally Posted by Brad Christy (Post 4896790)
Griff,

I thought the same thing. My toolmaker brain saw that, and the fact that they are two different lengths, I started doing hypothetical trig in my head and.... I can't imagine they don't conflict with each other, imparting significant stress on all parts involved.

87CigCafe,

Are you still running both tiebars?

Thanks. Brad.


yes still running both tie bars. I always wondered why in the world it has two? I just re-assembled the way it came apart LOL but it I where to take one off which would you do?

Brad Christy 04-29-2024 08:08 AM


Originally Posted by 87CigCafe (Post 4896793)
yes still running both tie bars. I always wondered why in the world it has two? I just re-assembled the way it came apart LOL but it I where to take one off which would you do?

87CigCafe,

Speaking strictly mechanically, the further from your pivot point, the more leverage. If I were designing a machine with similar geometries and vectored forces, I'd keep the rearmost tie bar. Others may have relevant experience saying otherwise.

FWIW, again, speaking strictly mechanically, I can't think of a good reason to have two, even if they were both the same length. And again, others may have relevant experience that says otherwise.

If I had to guess, I'd say a previous owner didn't like how the foremost tie bar was acting, so they added the rearmost one, trying to correct whatever, and didn't remove the foremost one, and every owner since has done exactly what you did.

Thanks. Brad.

Ryanw10 04-29-2024 08:38 AM

Do you still have the inner tie bar attached in bilge?

87CigCafe 04-29-2024 08:42 AM

Yep
 

Originally Posted by Brad Christy (Post 4896795)
87CigCafe,

Speaking strictly mechanically, the further from your pivot point, the more leverage. If I were designing a machine with similar geometries and vectored forces, I'd keep the rearmost tie bar. Others may have relevant experience saying otherwise.

FWIW, again, speaking strictly mechanically, I can't think of a good reason to have two, even if they were both the same length. And again, others may have relevant experience that says otherwise.

If I had to guess, I'd say a previous owner didn't like how the foremost tie bar was acting, so they added the rearmost one, trying to correct whatever, and didn't remove the foremost one, and every owner since has done exactly what you did.

Thanks. Brad.


makes sense! I appreciate the insight!

87CigCafe 04-29-2024 08:43 AM

No
 

Originally Posted by Ryanw10 (Post 4896800)
Do you still have the inner tie bar attached in bilge?


no sir

Ryanw10 04-29-2024 08:53 AM


Originally Posted by 87CigCafe (Post 4896802)
no sir

Then if it was me I would probably leave both on for redundancy in case one breaks. That's probably the rock crawler in me talking though, I used to break heim joints on my jeep often.

Helmwurst 04-29-2024 08:57 AM

I have the same steering setup. Originally had the lower tie bar too. Removed the lower and kept the upper only. I personally would remove the lower, especially with those heim joints. If you get your drives out of sync too far for whatever reason, that lower bar will bind before the top one.

snapmorgan 04-29-2024 09:35 AM

I added the second (lower) tie bar on my 35 Nordic to use as a boarding ladder. It worked great and there was no binding. Unless you have a ladder, i would leave it alone.

Brad Christy 04-29-2024 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by 87CigCafe (Post 4896801)
makes sense! I appreciate the insight!

87CigCafe,

:grinser010:
This is all that "more relevant experience" I was referring to. I tend to see everything from a machine builder's perspective. I also have a single, so I don't have these 1st world problems. At the end of the day, if the second tiebar isn't causing any problems, there likely isn't any reason to remove it. The old, "If it ain't broke" resolution....

Thanks. Brad.

Brad Christy 04-29-2024 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by snapmorgan (Post 4896811)
I added the second (lower) tie bar on my 35 Nordic to use as a boarding ladder. It worked great and there was no binding. Unless you have a ladder, i would leave it alone.

Snapmorgan,

Yeah... But I was raked in another thread for having the audacity to suggest something so "dumbassed" (citation redacted). :rolleyes:

Thanks. Brad.

87CigCafe 05-05-2024 07:12 PM

Hatch!
 
FINALLY got around to installing one of the very last pieces to this never ending puzzle it seems! The engine hatch is on! Was a pretty happy moment for me! LOL
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...9c52d3935.jpeg

Tartilla 05-07-2024 09:23 PM


Originally Posted by 87CigCafe (Post 4896719)
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...4eb1b95ff.jpeg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...668009223.jpeg
she did great yesterday and the wife approves finally after all this time LOL seen 75+mph on 3 different gps’s the 24p bravos I need to go up a pitch or two I believe we will see. Comes out of the hole in seconds. Planes well. So happy about this dang thing! Next project is getting the hatch back on!

What RPM are you seeing at 75 with the 24p?

What is your target RPM range?

The 317s seem to be working out well.

How is the cruise RPM and vacuum?
​​​​
Thanks, Art

87CigCafe 05-08-2024 08:50 AM

Rpm
 

Originally Posted by Tartilla (Post 4897533)
What RPM are you seeing at 75 with the 24p?

What is your target RPM range?

The 317s seem to be working out well.

How is the cruise RPM and vacuum?
​​​​
Thanks, Art


I can blow these 24’s out of the water I could stand to go up a couple pitches I believe and get the engines down to around 5600-5800 wot I can spin them well well past that now. I am going to be honest I didn’t concentrate too much on my rpm’s when I was pushing her up through the limits. I was watching all of my temperatures like a hawk or the best of my ability LOL first time ever running this boat and these engines. As for speed was on my cell phone, my wife’s cell phone and the GPS on the dash ( how accurate that is I don’t know )

she cruises GREAT with a little bit of trim tab around 35-40mph range with what seems like absolute zero effort from the engines.

vaccum I can’t answer.

Tartilla 05-08-2024 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by 87CigCafe (Post 4897572)
I can blow these 24’s out of the water I could stand to go up a couple pitches I believe and get the engines down to around 5600-5800 wot I can spin them well well past that now. I am going to be honest I didn’t concentrate too much on my rpm’s when I was pushing her up through the limits. I was watching all of my temperatures like a hawk or the best of my ability LOL first time ever running this boat and these engines. As for speed was on my cell phone, my wife’s cell phone and the GPS on the dash ( how accurate that is I don’t know )

she cruises GREAT with a little bit of trim tab around 35-40mph range with what seems like absolute zero effort from the engines.

vaccum I can’t answer.

Great to hear. I prefer running a bit more RPM on the top end as per your plan. Easier out of the hole, and not working hard on the cruise RPM.

The 317 Promaxx heads really seem to be working out.


87CigCafe 05-08-2024 09:12 PM

Right!
 

Originally Posted by Tartilla (Post 4897611)
Great to hear. I prefer running a bit more RPM on the top end as per your plan. Easier out of the hole, and not working hard on the cruise RPM.

The 317 Promaxx heads really seem to be working out.


i will say one thing. The power and the “ pull “ they make throughout coming from and out of the whole and all the way up to higher rpms she truthfully pulls hard all things considered! Nothing like these other guys I’m sure but I really enjoy it so far!

87CigCafe 06-14-2024 07:14 AM

Good fight
 
Still fighting the good fight with this ol girl. Hopefully will have my reversion issues fixed now. All new stainless marine risers “ dry “ with over board dumps.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...5fe7f3631.jpeg
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TomZ 06-14-2024 03:31 PM

Does any water exit from the ends or is it all overboard mid-way?

87CigCafe 06-14-2024 03:48 PM

No
 

Originally Posted by TomZ (Post 4900664)
Does any water exit from the ends or is it all overboard mid-way?


No water exits the riser its self at the tip . Unfortunately going to have to drill some holes either on the side or at the transom to dump water.

I’m still “ learning “ about dry exhaust but to me they look jacketed through out so I assume the whole thing gets cooled? but have a dump bong at the transom here is a photo of it zoomed in on the boat not bolted down or anything
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...842fe9dae.jpeg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...71d50d029.jpeg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...4dcb7532b0.png

jeff32 06-14-2024 08:57 PM


Originally Posted by 87CigCafe (Post 4900667)
No water exits the riser its self at the tip . Unfortunately going to have to drill some holes either on the side or at the transom to dump water.

I’m still “ learning “ about dry exhaust but to me they look jacketed through out so I assume the whole thing gets cooled? but have a dump bong at the transom here is a photo of it zoomed in on the boat not bolted down or anything
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...842fe9dae.jpeg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...71d50d029.jpeg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...4dcb7532b0.png

dont drill anything !!!!!
your water dump starts from that bung!
screw in a fitting and a hose goes from there to another water dump thru hull in the back!


jeff32 06-14-2024 09:01 PM

S
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87CigCafe 06-14-2024 09:12 PM

Yes
 
yes that’s what I ordered be here Wednesday but I have to drill to install those


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