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When I went to Offshore Performance to look at a 38 Sonic they had a 36 Cig in the show room.I talked to Harry about the Sonic,didn't look at the Cig but the paint was drop dead tricked out.

There seems to be a missing post about a repaired boat that has been deleted. It is this kind of situation I do not want to be in. With the gladiator being a painted boat from the get go, It could be tough to tell if there is hidden damage.

The recent deal that really interests me the most is the boat Jeff's friend, Mike, bought from Dick Simon. If they sell one like that will they sell another?

I am also very interested in the OSO boat being sold by Steve, Minus power is right up my alley since I prefer to rig myself using big block Fords. Again, My worry is hull/deck damage covered by paint. I assume this boat is in undamaged condition and will try to see ASAP.

Dick Simon is no longer, so you won't wee anymore Gladiators sold out of there.

I tryed to buy that boat about 6 months before they finally sold it. they wanted 289K at the time and I told them I would give them about 235k. They were not interested and that is as far as it went. The boat ended up selling for less than 200K.

I would look around. There are deals out there, and because they don't have a cabin I think they are a harder sell imo.

I still would not mind owning one:cool:

2112: If you are worried about prior damage, the Gladiator is a good boat to check out because you can see most of it. On most boats, the paint (outside) and the cabin (inside) cover the fiberglass. Since Gladiators do not have a cabin, this will allow you to closely inspect any of them for prior damage. If you go through the deck hatch into the bow, you will be able to tell if there is an area that has been patched or repaired.

You can obviously get a good inspection of the engine room too, but it may be a little more difficult to see a repair here because of the paint. So, in a Gladiator, the only area that you cannot easily examine is the area around and under the cockpit. For these areas, simply take a close look at the exterior sides and hull of the boat.

If you are not sure or confident about any of this, it can never hurt to hire a good surveyor to go over the boat. After the survey you will know what you are getting into. Also, if you do find problems down the road that the surveyor missed, you may have some recourse with them as well as the seller. Anyhow, good luck and happy hunting!

2112, I think you are talking about my new Gladiator. It had ben spun and partially sunk in fresh water a few years ago. I was not aware that it had been wet so I hired a surveyor to do a thorough inspection of the boat. The survey came back clean, in fact he said that the small amount of repair work that had been done was perfect. I actually closed the deal without ever seeing the boat in person, although the seller is a regular on OSO and would never be squirrely!! Dave was great through the whole transaction. Here is a pic from yesterday....

d-hlaw: Sweet boat and congratulations! I know that you are gonna love it! You brought up a good point. As long as repairs are done properly they should not be anything to worry about.

Our old Top Gun had been rolled during the race season before we bought it. It had some cracks repaired on the left side just above and below the rub rail. No big deal. We bought the boat and ran it for a year with no problems. From us it went to another owner that ran it with some big power. Still no problems. Now Cigarette1 on this board has it and I am sure that it will not give him any problems either.

After Phil pointed out the area that had been repaired, my surveyor said it was probably better and stronger than new.

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Hey guys;

I appreciate your input. All good suggestions.

Let me pose another question to you. Say I wanted to buy a boat from a factory that had no dealer within 1000 miles of me. I wanted to order the boat specifically to my specifications. It takes about 2-3 hours at the most for the dealer to process the order. The boat is delivered to me, I never see or contact the dealer again due to geographical distance.

What is a reasonable fee for that service? Dealer cost plus?? 5K 10K?? more?

Maybe I am seeing it incorrectly. When I order a new truck, It is always invoice plus X (usually 300 bucks plus the holdback they get from the factory 7-20%).

They seem to like the arrangement. Takes about one hour of phone time, no hassles, no flooring or advertising costs, another rig sold everyone is happy.

Obviously boats are so much more custom but if I can spell out EXACTLY what I want and there is no real follow up due to distance can this fair exchange process work here too? Are boat invoices available to public as they are with cars and trucks?

I hope to get a better understanding of how the process works. I also hate the dickering. I can relate to "this is my cost and this is the fee for my service" of course it helps if that fee is close to being commensurate to the service provided (ie is 50 grand really fair for a few hours phone time?)

Let me know guys, great input thus far!

I don't know about invoices being available, but I was shown what the dealer had payed for the boat when I bought mine. The salesman was a friend though. I am not sure most sales persons would do this.

I was shown the invoice on a held over Fountain but I didn't put much stock in it the salesperson wanted to show me what a great deal I was being offered.

In my opinion there isn't anything related to buying a boat that is similar to a car, especially custom built boats like Cig, Pantera and others. You negotiate the deal that you can live with.