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Old 10-04-2024 | 11:37 AM
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When I bought my boat in 2016, this was the first thread I went through. I was hoping to find the original or second owner, I was curious to see what graphics it had on it when it left Lip-ship in 1996. With no luck, I contacted Phil and he didn't remember that paint job but vaguely remembered the boat name and owner name (Insouciant III, Lee R. Goldstein). He owned it from 96-2011'ish and must have upgraded from the 502 MPI's (Which I have the original warranty cards) to the 525SC's in 97/98. The owner lived at Mystic Towers close to 188th and I believe the boat spent a lot of time on a rack till 2011'ish when it was sold to Charles Arnao and it spent time between Miami/somewhere in the NE Coast (I have to look at my records when I get home on what city). Carter bought it in 2015/2016 and sold to VortechSS pretty quick and I purchased in late 2016. Carter had sent me a 3" binder of info on the boat, which was awesome! But sill would love to know the original paint scheme it left Phil with, Cigarette on the bow and Cigarette Top Gun on the sides are Blue and Silver which is original to this day. The interior and cabin had blue accents and blue carpet with a red cover. If anyone knew the two original owners let me know.

Hope to have it back in the water for 2025!!



great history!! Really dig your boat and all the updates that have been done. It’s sooo clean. That’s cool you know almost all of its history. Our first top gun was easy to track history as we were the second owners. 1st owner was a very wealthy gentleman that lived on the water in lauderdale. Gun sat on a hoist next to his yacht. Factory 525SC’s matched to 3A’s. All white with vinyl graphics. He swapped out the blocks for bulldogs and upped the HP. dollar marine managed the boat. He traded it in to Phil and built a new 05 38 TS and I bought it from Phil.

cafe was a little more muddled except I did have all build paperwork from cigarette. Don’t know who the 1st or maybe 2nd owners were but Gary Sanchez (cigarette1) on the boards owned it from late 90’s through 05ish when he sold it to Carlos who owned it until we bought it in 2019ish.

Current gun kinda easy too. Have all build sheets. We knew the original builder. He sold it to James safa after 5 years of ownership. James had it for just under 2 years and it went to loto. Dude that bought it there had it for a few years and it ended up being repod at some point from what I heard. Very wealthy guy bought it and dropped it at central power and rigging in loto and handed them a blank check. They went through the whole thing from nut to butt at the tune of 350k restore. Dave bought it in Loto and had it for a few years. Barely got used after the updates. Now it’s with us, gets all service and updates at Barrett Custom Marine in Havasu. I’ll probably own it forever since there’s not many people that have the desire or means to deal with a big power #6 vee. Cool
with me though. It’s a blast.






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Old 10-05-2024 | 04:15 PM
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PBC fall run. Some rare siting - strip poker and the last gladiator.

















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Old 10-05-2024 | 04:18 PM
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PBC fall run. Some rare sitings - strip poker, TS #6 gun and the last gladiator.


















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Old 10-07-2024 | 11:47 AM
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Beautiful Gun for sure man. I remember when you bought it, I think I met you at Ticfaw that year or something or remember us talking about it back then. I know you have put a ton of blood, love and sweat into her, lucky man!
Thanks and it was Tickfaw, I think you had just bought the 35 TG but was on a cat that weekend.
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PBC fall run. Some rare sitings - strip poker, TS #6 gun and the last gladiator.



Strip Poker has been one of my all time favorite Cig's!!
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Old 10-07-2024 | 04:25 PM
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Did the 88 Gun become “old School”
also, that bullet is super nice! Have you posted pics of that before? I’m getting old. I can’t remember sh*t anymore. What’s the power? Who did the updates?
Tank... the 88 Top Gun I bought from Craig.... it is "Old School"..I used it for a season and then it was time to freshen the engines. (I knew that when I bought it)...unfortunatley, I had 2 daughters in college at the time. So rather than nickel and diming the boat, I sold it to Matt.... who has it now and has been racing it....The Bullet I have now I believe was Carters first Bullet restoration back when he started revamping Cigarettes. A friend of mine bought it less engines about 7 years ago. He went through the boat with the help of Ocean Performance here in CT and Mark @ Activator/Rage powerboats in Long Island in NY. The engines are 525EFI short blocks, with Merlin Grumpy Jenkins heads and he put Dart intakes w/ Holley 850's. they made 615 HP when dyno'd. and it had XR's on it .....it was a 3 year front to back redo including new interior up and downstairs. THEN THE DIVORCE PAPERS SHOWED UP and he had to sell it.......so he offered it to me at a "family discounted price" as I helped him throughout the resto. I've had it for 3 summers now, I added a pair of Blower Shop 6/71's and switched the XR's for a pair of -2 IMCO Extreme drives. I had a great summer with it this year. So far it has run a tic under 90 with a full 180 gallons of gas. I know it will do 92-93 with lower fuel. I havent posted any pics of it, but I keep meaning to. I will for sure.

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Old 10-07-2024 | 05:16 PM
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Tank... the 88 Top Gun I bought from Craig.... it is "Old School"..I used it for a season and then it was time to freshen the engines. (I knew that when I bought it)...unfortunatley, I had 2 daughters in college at the time. So rather than nickel and diming the boat, I sold it to Matt.... who has it now and has been racing it....The Bullet I have now I believe was Carters first Bullet restoration back when he started revamping Cigarettes. A friend of mine bought it less engines about 7 years ago. He went through the boat with the help of Ocean Performance here in CT and Mark @ Activator/Rage powerboats in Long Island in NY. The engines are 525EFI short blocks, with Merlin Grumpy Jenkins heads and he put Dart intakes w/ Holley 850's. they made 615 HP when dyno'd. and it had XR's on it .....it was a 3 year front to back redo including new interior up and downstairs. THEN THE DIVORCE PAPERS SHOWED UP and he had to sell it.......so he offered it to me at a "family discounted price" as I helped him throughout the resto. I've had it for 3 summers now, I added a pair of Blower Shop 6/71's and switched the XR's for a pair of -2 IMCO Extreme drives. I had a great summer with it this year. So far it has run a tic under 90 with a full 180 gallons of gas. I know it will do 92-93 with lower fuel. I havent posted any pics of it, but I keep meaning to. I will for sure.
how many hours in old school when the motors needed freshening and who had built them? Just curious.

yeah that bullet is clean. Look forward to pics of it!
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Not sure exactly the hours on the engines. But when I bought if from Craig, the port engine was making noise. Craig was very upfront about it and it reflected in the price. BTW...Craig is a stand up guy and a funny MF'er to boot !!....but yea, he didnt hide anything. He actually thought the engine was done and needed a rebuild. In getting the boat home, we pulled the valve covers and found a broken rocker. Quickly ordered 3 replacement rockers from Jesel (2 others were cracked), installed them and the engine ran great! We got lucky. They were the 588's at the time. They were N/A making 800 HP with #6 wet sump drives. They were tired, but I put probably 50 hours on them that year. Boat ran 82-84 depending on conditions. Previously, Craig had 1200's in it and it ran north of 110 MPH. It was a cool boat even running in the 80's.
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Old 10-08-2024 | 06:11 AM
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