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I don't know if this is a different incarnation on Needle Nose, but this one was here in Deland being redone. I think he took it to Chicago a month or so ago.
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Originally Posted by Black Tornado
Was it a former something? It Never raced like Needle Nose II?
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28 Bertram, still owned by Galen McTavish of Speedmaster's here in Deland.
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Here's my little one she'll be 20 in 07 !!!! One plain one with a few stickers. www.KineticAnimation.com/skater.html to see before and after.
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Originally Posted by Black Tornado
Was this the prototype which Sammy James used in 1973?
Crouse speak of a Bertram 38' prototype with the astronauts Gordon Cooper,but in a picture in Searace I think was this 36'. Then you raced after you bought it? Yes, I belive the dates are right - I purchased the boat with the thin plywood deck- and had the deck rebuilt - the biggest problem with this hull, was that the strakes were glassed on to the hull after it was popped from the mold - they did this to experiment with the position and width of the running strakes, It was just about impossible to keep the last 10 feet of the running strakes on the boat - they would come off in every race - and almost sank the boat in the "around Cape Cod" event in 1973. here are some of the photos I have of the boat before I got it from Bertram - a steal at 1,800.00 (shipping to me was 1/3 of that) in addition. |
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My old 89 Skater......the former "Skater Express" race boat.
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Originally Posted by Stormrider
Mr. Cig... if you ever decide to sell, let me know first.
I'm figuring your not selling... but i'm not buying... so maybe our timing will work out. :drink: Thanks Mark :drink: |
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Originally Posted by Crazyhorse
Mr. Cig, the arch is back on along with a new Raymarine RD214 radome. The radome, along with a raymarine GPS antenna, is connected to a Raymarine C-120 multifunction display.
We took the Cigarette to Mackinaw City Municipal Marina for 5 nights. Then we were in the state marina on Mackinac Island for 8 nights. It rained on day out of the two weeks we were there with temps in the mid-to-high 80's. Stormrider, if you get tired of waiting for Mr. Cig to sell his Cigarette you might consider giving me a call. We are considering a change. Mark :drink: |
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1982 Excalibur 27' Speedster
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1982 Excalibur Hawk 40. Twin 454/425HP TRS. Big, Slow, wave crusher. 27K takes it home!
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What a great collection of boats. I'll throw mine into the ring.
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I saw this two days ago in Buffalo, NY.
One of five made in 1966 by the Don. |
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overkill, that 27 is sick. :cool:
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Amazing responce to this thread! Seems there is more interest in the old stuff than one might have thought.
I love these old boats, mine included. These are REAL offshore boats. |
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Originally Posted by RLW
I saw this two days ago in Buffalo, NY.
One of five made in 1966 by the Don. I see it's labeled Magnm/Donzi. What is it. That's a helacuios looking bubble deck. I'd like to see more pictured if you have them. |
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Originally Posted by bouyhunter
You're not fooling anyone - you stop by UC first :D :evilb: .
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this forum has been around for ever it just used to be called the sutphen forum :evilb: :D
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Those are badass boats.. I've only seen a few around, there's one down here with twins rotting in a marina..
Merctrans was also available on big blocks BTW..
Originally Posted by lost2a6
This is my 1978 23ft SeaCraft SeaVette, they only made them two years 1978-1979. They made 11 with the I/O in 78 and a total of 14 I/Os all together. It has a 420 Mercruiser, MerctransII/TRS drive. Because of the Merctrans, makes me believe that the boat originally had a small block in it. I'm in the process of restoring the boat.
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...5-08-23311.jpg http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...5-08-23313.jpg http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...5-08-23317.jpg http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...seavette_8.jpg |
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Donzi Criterion SS.. Hull 1 of 5...
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Originally Posted by TRICK
I see it's labeled Magnm/Donzi. What is it. That's a helacuios looking bubble deck. I'd like to see more pictured if you have them.
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You have seen these before. Here is my 1982.
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Its yellow alright!
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Originally Posted by Phil M
Yes, I belive the dates are right - I purchased the boat with the thin plywood deck- and had the deck rebuilt - the biggest problem with this hull, was that the strakes were glassed on to the hull after it was popped from the mold - they did this to experiment with the position and width of the running strakes, It was just about impossible to keep the last 10 feet of the running strakes on the boat - they would come off in every race - and almost sank the boat in the "around Cape Cod" event in 1973.
here are some of the photos I have of the boat before I got it from Bertram - a steal at 1,800.00 (shipping to me was 1/3 of that) in addition. From this 36' was derivated the new and ultimate 38' I think,but the running strakes positions was different and the flank shortened,with a different deck. Then this 36' raced with James in 1973 and with you when? |
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Originally Posted by Black Tornado
Many thanks Phil. Very interesting informations and the two pics.
From this 36' was derivated the new and ultimate 38' I think,but the running strakes positions was different and the flank shortened,with a different deck. Then this 36' raced with James in 1973 and with you when? |
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Mr. Cig, we'll run with you up there. Mackinaw City has a great ramp and plenty of parking. Mac Islandy has a very nice marina and I know you and Patti would have a great stay on the island.
St Ignace, just across the Mackinac bridge in the U.P., is a 5-minute boat ride from the island and has a beautiful new marina with floating docks. Cheboygan, just to the east of Mac City, also has a nice marina with floaters. De Tour is a nice run of about 40 miles from any of the above marinas and is a popular place with a nice boat ramp and marina. you say the word and we'll run with you. See if you can get Quiet Storm to make the trip. I'll even offer to Freightliner his boat up here for him. |
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Originally Posted by Black Tornado
Many thanks Phil. Very interesting informations and the two pics.
From this 36' was derivated the new and ultimate 38' I think,but the running strakes positions was different and the flank shortened,with a different deck. Then this 36' raced with James in 1973 and with you when? It was one of my best filming seasons - filming with out the need to worry about who pays, who gets coverage and for how long etc. - What a time - and what a front row seat, watching over 30 open class boats all with in a couple of hundred yards of each other - Classic racing - that we seldom had here - If you know how to contact Walter Ragazzi, please let me know - In those days - OFFSHORE was OFFSHORE - a sad day when it all ended in 1993. Be well Marco - PHIL |
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Originally Posted by bigandy
this forum has been around for ever it just used to be called the sutphen forum :evilb: :D
Here is picture of a 1972 Sutphen that I owned from 1988 to 2001. I had more "fun" in this boat than should be allowed!! :eek: :drink: :evilb: :drink: :evilb: This picture was taken in 1993. Both kids that are in the boat are now in College! :eek: |
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Originally Posted by OldSchool
:D :D
Here is picture of a 1972 Sutphen that I owned from 1988 to 2001. I had more "fun" in this boat than should be allowed!! :eek: :drink: :evilb: :drink: :evilb: This picture was taken in 1993. Both kids that are in the boat are now in College! :eek: |
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Originally Posted by cuda
What size is that Craig?
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Originally Posted by Phil M
Marco - I was the person that filmed the 1992 UIM events in St. Tropez, Malta, Gurnsey, Ostende - I worked for the group headed by Walter Ragazzi - (a wonderful guy too) - I also produced the film of his winning in the UIM world Championship in Dubai in 1991 should you have seen it. The UIM footage was shot in PAL format - and I left it in Europe for them to edit -
It was one of my best filming seasons - filming with out the need to worry about who pays, who gets coverage and for how long etc. - What a time - and what a front row seat, watching over 30 open class boats all with in a couple of hundred yards of each other - Classic racing - that we seldom had here - If you know how to contact Walter Ragazzi, please let me know - In those days - OFFSHORE was OFFSHORE - a sad day when it all ended in 1993. Be well Marco - PHIL I remember very well those years because I take a lot of pictures from the races. You are right to say Offshore was Offshore. I remember when in Viareggio in 1993 the race was cancelled because a stormy weather. That year the old offshore style race,the Viareggio-Bastia-Viareggio,should have been the greatest races of ever,with a big battle between a band of fighting cats and mono across the Mediterranean Sea. The storm ended a dream.....for ever. |
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Still a trailer Queen but getting much closer. :D
1986 US-1 46' Cougar with a Kevlar Hull Cougarman |
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And the business end
Cougarman |
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Heres a few of mine.
85 28 SS, 355's, b&w trannies, TRS Drives. These pictures show the old 3 1/2 in. Gil dry pipes. I replaced them with 4 in. Stainless Marine. I'll post some updated pics next week when I get it back from the shop. |
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Heres my friend T-Mone's 24 Pantera. It's not that old but it's a classic design. Two of the pictures suck because they were taken from a video still. I wish I knew how to post videos.
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Originally Posted by Black Tornado
Ok Phil. I will try to find Walter Ragazzi.
I remember very well those years because I take a lot of pictures from the races. You are right to say Offshore was Offshore. I remember when in Viareggio in 1993 the race was cancelled because a stormy weather. That year the old offshore style race,the Viareggio-Bastia-Viareggio,should have been the greatest races of ever,with a big battle between a band of fighting cats and mono across the Mediterranean Sea. The storm ended a dream.....for ever. Thank you Marco - Hope you do find Walter or a way I can contact him. I was there for the Viareggio race - I remember how windy and stormy the sea was - and I just could not wait to get flying to film it all - it would have been a Classic event for sure - I was always impressed by the Hospitality from all of the Italian teams - your kitchens - your warm hospitality will not be forgotten - I have many fond memories of flying from London to the various events by Helicopter - some times it took two days each way to get to an event such as Malta - and flying over water for many hours at a time, was quite scary at times, specially in a single engine Jet Ranger. Here is a photo taken flying thru the Alps in Switzerland - on our way from London to Milan, then south to Genoa and on to Viareggio - the photo taken in July too - offshore was Offshore - in the 1980s and early 1990s - a shame it has become a circut in-shore so much now - compass's are not needed anymore - Speed was not important - it was who could get there in one piece in any conditions - |
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1986 Corsa 8 Meter!
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One of the baddest. I know I post this link all the time, but I just can't get enough of this boat.
http://www.lake-minnetonka.net/cigarette.htm |
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Okay Fred, here's another shot of the 1966 Magnum.
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Here's the Magnum with a Gar Wood replica on the inside.
Also, an original old school. I have no idea what it is but it's cool. |
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