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Twin O/B Sonic 01-25-2022 05:38 AM

Is that 10k lbs in a trailer?

One of few IOs I really like.

Style, performance and just the right size.



Originally Posted by F14A water jet (Post 4819253)
Not quite...takes some trim but 80+ GPS


DrFeelgood 01-25-2022 06:40 AM


Originally Posted by F14A water jet (Post 4819252)
I see you are on MI. I used to surf Patrick (AFB) first light and Picnic Tables.
I have not seen Nick's in person but it seems to be a twin of mine (592hp, 489 strokers).

Yah, I've been to Tables for metal detecting a few times. Was pretty desolate last time out. Usually stick to Cape / North Cocoa Beach since it's 5 minutes from my front door!

DrFeelgood 01-25-2022 06:41 AM


Originally Posted by Twin O/B Sonic (Post 4819280)
Is that 10k lbs in a trailer?

One of few IOs I really like.

Style, performance and just the right size.

Published weight is 7500-7900 for the boat. Probably right around 10K on trailer.

F14A water jet 01-25-2022 07:26 AM


Originally Posted by DrFeelgood (Post 4819286)
Yah, I've been to Tables for metal detecting a few times. Was pretty desolate last time out. Usually stick to Cape / North Cocoa Beach since it's 5 minutes from my front door!

I'm from Jax and went to U of F so late 70s-early 80s: Blow hole (Anastatia) to Sebastian. I was banned from North Daytona Shores :-)

F14A water jet 01-25-2022 07:30 AM


Originally Posted by DrFeelgood (Post 4819287)
Published weight is 7500-7900 for the boat. Probably right around 10K on trailer.

That is exactly what I figured. Other than getting it to P'cola, I tow about 3 miles to a ramp with a V10 Excursion.
ALSO, the Silent Thunder platform has had the bottom drilled (6-4" holes) and gutted for (more) sound and (less) weight .
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...9ce742b17e.jpg

cig28 01-25-2022 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by johnmiffco (Post 4819226)
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...2d883e582b.jpg
1995 32 hustler i just picked up,,,,,,semi resto in 2019 with new paint,tank,floor,flooring and upholstry,,,,,going to finish off with all new wiring,electronics,more interior work adding mcleod bolsters,redesign dash,and convert to tripple o/bs as is 1 of the very few 95-97 32s that was built with cored deck,flooring,all of birth boxing,dash and rear hatch so lighter hull should work well with the trips

That was a NJ boat.

johnmiffco 01-25-2022 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by cig28 (Post 4819304)
That was a NJ boat.

yes it was,,,,i went to get it with no power or drives back in september
as stated he had it painted,,new tank and floor and most upholstry replaced in 2019-2020
good starting point to finish resto with lots of custom upgrades and remove all old wiring,electrics ,guages,screens,ect
finish out birth and do more paintwork,,, wanted it as not many 95-97 32s out there,,,

cig28 01-26-2022 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by johnmiffco (Post 4819333)
yes it was,,,,i went to get it with no power or drives back in september
as stated he had it painted,,new tank and floor and most upholstry replaced in 2019-2020
good starting point to finish resto with lots of custom upgrades and remove all old wiring,electrics ,guages,screens,ect
finish out birth and do more paintwork,,, wanted it as not many 95-97 32s out there,,,

I went to look at the drives that were on the boat and it was sitting in the guys driveway.

Quinlan 01-27-2022 05:29 AM

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Helped a friend and cove neighbor splash a 90- 45' Magnum this fall. WoW is all I can say. Huge Detroit Diesels ASD 12's I believe.

Stormrider 01-27-2022 08:30 AM


Originally Posted by Quinlan (Post 4819505)
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...cace68bc8b.png
Helped a friend and cove neighbor splash a 90- 45' Magnum this fall. WoW is all I can say. Huge Detroit Diesels ASD 12's I believe.

Nice to know where that boat went. That was a great buy IMO.

SammyJ 01-27-2022 10:36 AM

redone Formula F-302
 
This was a pretty good old school ride, 1980 Formula F-302 that got a total rebuild in the early 90's
total deck off restoration ........
SammyJ
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...f99d00e586.jpg
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Quinlan 01-28-2022 05:33 AM


Originally Posted by Stormrider (Post 4819517)
Nice to know where that boat went. That was a great buy IMO.

Yes I think so also. He was looking at a 50somthing in FLA and I turned him on to this one as I found it on Boat trader.

Story I got was all gone through a couple years ago and Only like 20 hours on totally rebuilt Detroit's, and new larger ASD's. She' s a Beast.
We were running right around 40mph. 35K lbs or something close.
Just a fukin BEast. Love it. Oh and can we all say Roooost.

Twin O/B Sonic 01-28-2022 05:54 AM

Bet it was a scary tow w/that Jeep!

Beautiful old classic.


Originally Posted by SammyJ (Post 4819531)
This was a pretty good old school ride, 1980 Formula F-302 that got a total rebuild in the early 90's
total deck off restoration ........
SammyJ
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...f99d00e586.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...82ab0dafdc.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...04a275c678.jpg


TomZ 01-28-2022 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by F14A water jet (Post 4819253)
Not quite...takes some trim but 80+ GPS


Slow!

j/k!!

:party-smiley-004:

SammyJ 01-28-2022 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by Twin O/B Sonic (Post 4819617)
Bet it was a scary tow w/that Jeep!

Beautiful old classic.

Thanks ,
Jeep just used to move it around house and yard, maneuverable...., F-250 did the road tow, 9000lb too much for Jeep.
Ironically, I wish i had kept this old dog, was a reliable 60MPH cruise in RI waters

F14A water jet 01-28-2022 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by SammyJ (Post 4819652)
Thanks ,
Jeep just used to move it around house and yard, maneuverable...., F-250 did the road tow, 9000lb too much for Jeep.
Ironically, I wish i had kept this old dog, was a reliable 60MPH cruise in RI waters

I have used my wife's RAV4 to move/park my F311 as its shorter wheel base (Ford Excursion) gives me more options/maneuverability (but I am sure a snapshot of that set-up would look funny).

SammyJ 01-28-2022 11:33 AM

I understand that all too well... there is a picture in existence of me moving or attempting to move it with my John Deere 332 diesel garden tractor.
The things you do when no truck is available........ it didn't move far but I got the 2 feet I needed

Twin O/B Sonic 01-28-2022 12:38 PM

I figured as much but as someone who has towed w/junk before, I had to point it out 😂

When I had my first 24 sonic I lost a job and a wife within a month of each other, and you can imagine the crimp it put in my boating lifestyle!

I bought a $500 full-size 1986 Chevy van off eBay.
With that years gutless 305 V-8.

Found a 300 horse, 350 jasper motor on craigslist for another 500 bucks.

Headers and exhaust from Jeggs , a 3.73 posy from a junkyard, motor in and out through the drivers door which they told me would not work (😂).
Probably not in a van you cared about.

Got plates for it that said “Tow Pigg”!

Only had problems pulling the boat out with it one time.
Very steep, slippery ramp that was wet!

Had people offering to help me tow it but I was having too much fun trying!
Would lose traction as soon as the trailer wheels cleared the water.

Looked over and noticed the opposite side of the ramp was dry.

Took the boat off the trailer, moved it to that side, pulled the trailer out, backed down that side, loaded the boat and pulled it right out!

Originally Posted by SammyJ (Post 4819652)
Thanks ,
Jeep just used to move it around house and yard, maneuverable...., F-250 did the road tow, 9000lb too much for Jeep.
IrAe cally, I wish i had kept this old dog, was a reliable 60MPH cruise in RI waters


Wildman_grafix 01-28-2022 01:10 PM

I towed a 39 Dodge panel truck home once with a Mid 80's little Toyota 2wd truck,,,,,,,, Talk about squatting, of course no brakes on the trailer:)

Hey it was the 80's!!!!!

larslindroth 01-29-2022 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by Quinlan (Post 4819616)
Yes I think so also. He was looking at a 50somthing in FLA and I turned him on to this one as I found it on Boat trader.

Story I got was all gone through a couple years ago and Only like 20 hours on totally rebuilt Detroit's, and new larger ASD's. She' s a Beast.
We were running right around 40mph. 35K lbs or something close.
Just a fukin BEast. Love it. Oh and can we all say Roooost.

Kept seeing that ad and was mystified why it didn't sell for over 2 years. That's lots of boat for the money. Hope she'll log a good amount of hours from now on.


bigblocksforever 01-29-2022 08:58 PM

now this is classic

DrFeelgood 01-30-2022 05:45 AM

Spotted a 40' Magnum on a semitrailer headed southbound on I-95 through Melbourne FL a few days ago... No drives on it. Sorry, couldn't get a pic.

Quinlan 01-31-2022 05:31 AM


Originally Posted by larslindroth (Post 4819789)
Kept seeing that ad and was mystified why it didn't sell for over 2 years. That's lots of boat for the money. Hope she'll log a good amount of hours from now on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4RCfgMB00U

One reason it took so long is because the guy would not sell until he got a Bigger Magnum. So, they turned him on to the 55 or 60 that Joe looked at in Fla. and it was a done deal. 2 Large commissions because I turned him onto it and all I get is to Drive It :flag::riding:
The things we do for Friends :cool-smiley-011:

ScottyChatham 09-30-2022 04:26 AM

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larslindroth 10-01-2022 03:03 PM

Congratulations to one special Cigarette 38. I saw your photos in the Cigarette owners' forum and it's so cool to see that the documentation from new has stayed with the boat. Do you know who originally bought the boat from Don Aronow? Several of the retired offshore racers brought with them their 'leisure' performance boats to Colorado or bought one once they got settled in. Most wanted change after having lived and worked in states like New York, New Jersey, and Florida. Bob 'Doc' Magoon was probably the one who set the trend and several followed. They couldn't let go of boating though, even though aviation was also a very popular activity among this great gathering of then-living legends.
https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries...ary?id=9432212


The Miami to NY Cigarette 40. July 3rd, 1974.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...ac84da0602.jpg


Too Stroked 10-01-2022 03:42 PM

Our 30-year-old 1992 Progression 22 this summer on Lake Ontario.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...dbfcc879b1.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...f8c87012a1.jpg


ScottyChatham 10-01-2022 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by larslindroth (Post 4846928)
Congratulations to one special Cigarette 38. I saw your photos in the Cigarette owners' forum and it's so cool to see that the documentation from new has stayed with the boat. Do you know who originally bought the boat from Don Aronow? Several of the retired offshore racers brought with them their 'leisure' performance boats to Colorado or bought one once they got settled in. Most wanted change after having lived and worked in states like New York, New Jersey, and Florida. Bob 'Doc' Magoon was probably the one who set the trend and several followed. They couldn't let go of boating though, even though aviation was also a very popular activity among this great gathering of then-living legends.
https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries...ary?id=9432212

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY-9QNcu6LE

The Miami to NY Cigarette 40. July 3rd, 1974.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...ac84da0602.jpg

I am not sure. The boat was in Ohio I believe before Colorado and Northeast before that. When I have time I will go through all the paperwork and figure out and look at dates.

larslindroth 10-02-2022 07:35 PM

Yes, when You have more history of the boat share it on the Cigarette Owners Forum thread You started. I wouldn't be surprised if You'll get feedback from fellows that have known this boat.

ScottyChatham 10-02-2022 08:18 PM


Originally Posted by larslindroth (Post 4847068)
Yes, when You have more history of the boat share it on the Cigarette Owners Forum thread You started. I wouldn't be surprised if You'll get feedback from fellows that have known this boat.

Thanks. I will and also will share pictures of the transom/stringer redo that is going to happen this winter when I make my mind up about future drives. lol

JaniH 10-05-2022 12:41 PM

Chris craft stinger 260, single bbc 509/bravo 1
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...4a37d0b5e1.jpg

F-2 Speedy 10-05-2022 12:58 PM

am I seeing an alternator direct connected to the crank shaft ? never seen that post 2182

cheech 10-05-2022 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by F-2 Speedy (Post 4847401)
am I seeing an alternator direct connected to the crank shaft ? never seen that post 2182

Good question.
I wondered what front drive setup that was?
Guess seawater pumps cam driven.

Also hydraulic cylinders on transom, but I see no steering pumps??

Why the need for 2 tie bars also?

speicher lane 10-05-2022 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by cheech (Post 4847402)
Also hydraulic cylinders on transom, but I see no steering pumps??

Why the need for 2 tie bars also?

The boat will have an old school hydraulic pump in the helm... All manual input with no assist (obviously)... Think of early o/b skaters
The 2nd tiebar on the steering is likely (only guessing here) to keep the push/pull effect of the steering rams equal on each drive

cheech 10-05-2022 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by speicher lane (Post 4847403)
The boat will have an old school hydraulic pump in the helm... All manual input with no assist (obviously)... Think of early o/b skaters
The 2nd tiebar on the steering is likely (only guessing here) to keep the push/pull effect of the steering rams equal on each drive

That's what I thought at first.
An outboard hydraulic setup.

Never knew they used them on sterndrive boats.

mountie 10-07-2022 04:27 PM

Arena Craft... The first boat I drove
 
Actually Howard Arneson's first boat using the prototype Surface drive. I think this is the only photo of the boat. Powered with a Crusader Marine 350 Chevy.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...c5d462bb68.jpg

ScottyChatham 10-08-2022 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by cheech (Post 4847405)
That's what I thought at first.
An outboard hydraulic setup.

Never knew they used them on sterndrive boats.

I have never seen this type set up? I was told the engine stuff is jet boat type stuff? No belts anywhere, water pump off cam, alternator off crank. The steering I have no idea except I don’t like it lol. I am changing that this winter. Going to redo the transom, stringers and modernize the interior and stereo. I will leave the motor setup, it really works well and is something different!

cheech 10-10-2022 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by ScottyChatham (Post 4847671)
I have never seen this type set up? I was told the engine stuff is jet boat type stuff? No belts anywhere, water pump off cam, alternator off crank. The steering I have no idea except I don’t like it lol. I am changing that this winter. Going to redo the transom, stringers and modernize the interior and stereo. I will leave the motor setup, it really works well and is something different!

Well as speicher lane said, the steering has no power assist. My guess is that's your issue with it?
So you'll have to add a hydraulic helm, lines to it, pump, and reservoir.

The pump situation might get difficult if there isn't any access to get a belt to your steering pump with your existing front drive setup.
Guess there isn't even a lower pulley?

ScottyChatham 10-10-2022 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by cheech (Post 4847822)
Well as speicher lane said, the steering has no power assist. My guess is that's your issue with it?
So you'll have to add a hydraulic helm, lines to it, pump, and reservoir.

The pump situation might get difficult if there isn't any access to get a belt to your steering pump with your existing front drive setup.
Guess there isn't even a lower pulley?

No lower. I have been talking to a couple of companies about electric pump, similar to drive and tab pumps to use as power steering. I think I will change helm and give it a try.I seem to like to do things different

Team Archer 10-11-2022 11:52 AM

IMCO makes an electric power steering system that we use on outboards. Works great Give them a call they will set you up.

Quinlan 10-12-2022 04:36 AM

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OK so Not OffShore :party-smiley-004:
But I picked up this Tub for next to nothing and will be starting a rehab this winter. Prob 16-18'. Some sort of Chevy V8 and Jet drive.
I have seen a bad pic of one that was in a Bond movie and trying to figure out which movie so I can some get paint ideas.
Probably early 60s. and the name on it is JEW CANOE lol. Some say change it- I say Bad Luck.

Any Bond fanatics that might know which one? Already watched Dr No and found out you can't even get old Bond movies free on steaming that I can find. Hmmmm


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