Go Back  Offshoreonly.com > General Discussion > Classic Offshore
36 Cigarettes racing back in the days >

36 Cigarettes racing back in the days

Notices

36 Cigarettes racing back in the days

Thread Tools
 
Old 07-09-2007 | 06:57 AM
  #231  
MF's Avatar
MF
Registered
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 311
Likes: 0
From: Italy, Udine, Friuli Venezia Giulia
Default

Originally Posted by MF
...considering the modifications in fiberglass for the outboards, why not make a new boat from her ??????(without destroyng a great 36 ??????)

i don't understand why the people take a boat and modify it at your pleasure to start a production....I mean, like in this case, Outboards mean adding a platform structurally strong, adding stringers, cutting everything for center console and construct new floors, laying out everything....Way too much work, i would prefer building one from start...

My Two Cents..

Honestly i like the results, but i am sad for the boat ...........since mine has gone trough a similar process....and i knew from people i know that a man in my marina was looking at her with the same projects that eraf went trough (converted to CC)...at least i bougth the boat before this happens...
MF is offline  
Reply
Old 07-09-2007 | 07:20 AM
  #232  
Black Tornado's Avatar
Registered
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,421
Likes: 9
From: Viareggio-Italy
Default

Originally Posted by littlenige
I think I'd prefer to remember the boat like this. Marco - hope you don't mind I have pinched a shot from your archive at the address you give on a previous reply:-

what a classic racer it was.
You have made well Nigel, only that a photo of bad quality you have chosen.
However this photo has a curious anecdote because was shot (not from me) at Viareggio in 1972, few minutes before one of the MerCruisers exploded really while the boat was berthed in docks.
A connecting rod had gone out from the pan and it was planted in the hull.
Giancarlo Antonini told me while he was rigging the boat in 1980 to have seen the wound that it still brought in the bottom of the engines bay.
Perhaps who has worked on the boat for this last modifications he has still noticed the scars....

Last edited by Black Tornado; 07-09-2007 at 07:22 AM.
Black Tornado is offline  
Reply
Old 07-09-2007 | 07:27 AM
  #233  
Black Tornado's Avatar
Registered
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,421
Likes: 9
From: Viareggio-Italy
Default

Originally Posted by MF
i don't understand why the people take a boat and modify it at your pleasure to start a production....I mean, like in this case, Outboards mean adding a platform structurally strong, adding stringers, cutting everything for center console and construct new floors, laying out everything....Way too much work, i would prefer building one from start...

My Two Cents..

Honestly i like the results, but i am sad for the boat ...........since mine has gone trough a similar process....and i knew from people i know that a man in my marina was looking at her with the same projects that eraf went trough (converted to CC)...at least i bougth the boat before this happens...
And you have saved a myth!
I agree fully with you also however on the good result of the project.
Black Tornado is offline  
Reply
Old 07-09-2007 | 07:40 AM
  #234  
Black Tornado's Avatar
Registered
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,421
Likes: 9
From: Viareggio-Italy
Default

In Italy they remain at least two other Cigarette 36' to save.
One is the former Lady Nara (I), the mythical winner of the 1971 CTC. The English know it well.
The other more and more important because' is the first 36' ever built by Aronow together with the Aeromarine I of Magoon.
It deals with the ex Black Tornado-Eraf-Ego.
36' with more' victories gotten with also the Dry Martini (III),now in England.
And considering that the Aeromarine I was modified radically
from the BAM(another bad story), you can imagine the importance of that 36.'
It seems you are found in the Yards Primatist of Bruno Abbate.

Last edited by Black Tornado; 07-09-2007 at 07:43 AM.
Black Tornado is offline  
Reply
Old 07-09-2007 | 08:20 AM
  #235  
MF's Avatar
MF
Registered
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 311
Likes: 0
From: Italy, Udine, Friuli Venezia Giulia
Default

Originally Posted by Black Tornado
In Italy they remain at least two other Cigarette 36' to save.
One is the former Lady Nara (I), the mythical winner of the 1971 CTC. The English know it well.
The other more and more important because' is the first 36' ever built by Aronow together with the Aeromarine I of Magoon.
It deals with the ex Black Tornado-Eraf-Ego.
36' with more' victories gotten with also the Dry Martini (III),now in England.
And considering that the Aeromarine I was modified radically
from the BAM(another bad story), you can imagine the importance of that 36.'
It seems you are found in the Yards Primatist of Bruno Abbate.

.....what do you mean ?
MF is offline  
Reply
Old 07-09-2007 | 01:50 PM
  #236  
Black Tornado's Avatar
Registered
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,421
Likes: 9
From: Viareggio-Italy
Default

Originally Posted by MF
.....what do you mean ?
I want to say that if someone is able' to be interested to them is given by to do before also these last two are outraged.
Black Tornado is offline  
Reply
Old 07-09-2007 | 02:41 PM
  #237  
MF's Avatar
MF
Registered
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 311
Likes: 0
From: Italy, Udine, Friuli Venezia Giulia
Default

Are you sure the first is in the Bruno Abbate yard on the como lake ??
MF is offline  
Reply
Old 07-09-2007 | 03:38 PM
  #238  
Black Tornado's Avatar
Registered
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,421
Likes: 9
From: Viareggio-Italy
Default

Originally Posted by MF
Are you sure the first is in the Bruno Abbate yard on the como lake ??
Tim Brand Crombie has said to me to have seen it there some time ago. I have tried to send an email to the Primatist but as usual I have had not some answer.
I have programmed makes a visit next saturday 21.
Without purchase intentions obviously.
Black Tornado is offline  
Reply
Old 07-09-2007 | 04:36 PM
  #239  
MF's Avatar
MF
Registered
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 311
Likes: 0
From: Italy, Udine, Friuli Venezia Giulia
Default

Originally Posted by Black Tornado
Tim Brand Crombie has said to me to have seen it there some time ago. I have tried to send an email to the Primatist but as usual I have had not some answer.
I have programmed makes a visit next saturday 21.
Without purchase intentions obviously.

well let me (us) know any news !!!
MF is offline  
Reply
Old 07-10-2007 | 02:46 AM
  #240  
Registered
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Default

Thanks for all the informations you all gave me, i am impressed about how many things Black Tornado knows about this boats.
@ MF, i will ask if some parts of the boat are still in the boatyard, but i'm not optimistic, because ther is not much space to keep "unuseful"(for them) things. Be sure i will make everything is possible, i watched the 3d about your restoration and i will be happy to help you, if i can. at least with pictures. It's a very hard project and if i think that alfred was in perfect condition, well.... i can understand your disappointment.

Alfred was in Cecina,near Livorno, not at Primatist. it has been there for at least 20 years without moving.
StefanoDesign is offline  
Reply


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.