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Black Tornado 04-19-2007 02:15 AM

Cougar 41'
 
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Does anyone have pics of this Cougar in Seahawk version?
It seems that was the last Cougar for Sal Magluta. Magluta maybe drove it in some(one only?) races in 1987.

T2x 04-19-2007 07:53 AM

There were two Seahawk Aluminum Cougars..... That one and a 36'...... The 36 was the one that Magluta raced.... Willie Falcon ran the one in your picture I recall.

The 36 was unique in that it was the first with an aluminum tubular substructure , like a race car. The previous aluminum Cougars had traditional channel bulkhead and stringer construction.

Brownie can elaborate far better than I on this topic.....

T2x

Black Tornado 04-19-2007 08:56 AM

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T2x,the boat of which you speak was the 38', the first cat that Magluta bought from Rodriguez in 1984. When the 36' was ready' Magluta continued to race on this last one and the 38' become the boat of Falcon. Then in the 1987 arrived a third cat Cougar,a 41.'

T2x 04-19-2007 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by Black Tornado (Post 2098896)
T2x,the boat of which you speak was the 38', the first cat that Magluta bought from Rodriguez in 1984. When the 36' was ready' Magluta continued to race on this last one and the 38' become the boat of Falcon. Then in the 1987 arrived a third cat Cougar,a 41.'

I don't remember the 3rd hull.... doesn't mean it didn't exist...I just don't recall it. I also don't recall a 41' hull. My recollection is that the Collection/Cougar/Sea Hawk boat (same Hull) was a 38 footer. That and the 36 were only two Seahawk cats I remember.

T2x

Black Tornado 04-19-2007 10:31 AM

You are right, the most famous Seahawks cats were the 38' The Collection/Seahawk and starting from 1985 the little 36'.
Crouse in the last pages of Searace spoke about a 41' Cougar that had to be driven by Magluta after his 36' had been seriously damaged in the 1987 New Orleans race.
This didn't happen because' Magluta had brought such wounds to forced him to stop racing for some time.
It seems that 41' was drove by Willie Falcon that year.
In the same 1987 the old 38' became Team Kaze and in 1988 was bought by the Franchman Marret and the cat went in Europe renamed Divin.
The 36' apparently was destroyed.
That 41' was drove by Steve Curtis with the old Seahawk's crew Jay and Lorenzo in the 1987's Key West World Championships giving the first Title to a British.
After that race the cat became Bengal Bay Club for Kobayashi in the 1988's US season.
I know it's a very muddled story and I hope that you can understand me in spite of my bad English.

el indio 04-19-2007 11:17 AM

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dos mas.............

Tim B-C 04-19-2007 11:39 AM

Marco i raced both Divin's with Maret,
The one of Malguta was the most lethal cat I ever raced.........
You spent most of the race peering out of your crash hat at 90 degrees to your head, over 50 it just tried tio rip your head of and was a ***** for hooking and nose diving, think the best we did was 4th in Viareggio in 88...
The Chris Craft of '87 was amazing, won 16 races including World Cup in Porto Cervo, and finished first class 2 in C/T/C only 14 seconds behind Fruitier in the Cougar ROCKY

Black Tornado 04-19-2007 11:50 AM

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Here for you too,Tim.
the 38' Seahawk/Team Seahawk from 1984 to 1986.
the Team Kaze in the 1987
the Divin in 1988.

Tim B-C 04-19-2007 11:52 AM

wonderful Marco best pic I've seen of the old cow !!!!!!!!!!!:evilb:

Tim B-C 04-19-2007 11:55 AM

was that taken in gurnsey??
'cos those screens ere not fitted till after VBV........ we parted company after that race..........one of only 2 guys in 30 years racing who never honoured there agreements !!!!!

Black Tornado 04-19-2007 12:00 PM

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Here the 41'. Are clearly the bigger dimensions. Note the Team Seahawk colours and the writings "1984 US National Champion 1985" (the two Titles of Magluta) and the Magluta's personal race number #25.
There are no doubt about the fact it was a third Cougar tin cats of the Team Seahawk.
In 1988 the same 41' in Bengal Bay Club version.

Black Tornado 04-19-2007 12:05 PM


Originally Posted by Tim B-C (Post 2099113)
was that taken in gurnsey??
'cos those screens ere not fitted till after VBV........ we parted company after that race..........one of only 2 guys in 30 years racing who never honoured there agreements !!!!!

Yes Tim,was in Guernsey.
I remember well the cat arrived in Viareggio one week before the race. Was so beautiful! I loved it!
And I taken a lot of pictures and I remember that the cockpits were in the original version without semi-canopy.

T2x 04-19-2007 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by Black Tornado (Post 2099102)
Here for you too,Tim.
the 38' Seahawk/Team Seahawk from 1984 to 1986.
the Team Kaze in the 1987
the Divin in 1988.

Okay..if you say so....but that boat looks an awful lot like the original Collection/Sea Hawk....... and I always assumed it was only one boat. If you say it is a newer 41' and the other an older 38' , I'll accept that, but I never made a distinction back in the day and am a little disappointed in myself. That qualifies as the one error I made in 1987....... :p

T2x

Black Tornado 04-19-2007 01:52 PM

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Those Seahawks make a little confusion in ours minds.:drink:
The only 38' was the first cat,former The Collection,then Seahawk in 1984 and Team Seahawk in 1986 for Magluta(1984) and Falcon.
The 36' was the first cat builded for Magluta in 1985.
The 41' was a second builded for Magluta.
Here the 36'. It seems that it became Reporter for Curtis/Currington in 1988-89.

Tim B-C 04-19-2007 01:59 PM

Reporter was the Malguta cat that crashed and nearly killed him, it was supposed to be scrapped but cougar re built it from the ground up !!
It arrived lat at St Tropez in '66 for first round of Europeans, Stebie C had teamed Up with Fruitier and son..When the boat went in the water they found someone had used the wrong rivets and it was like the head of a watering can all along the topsides......................

mmwalters 04-19-2007 03:59 PM

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What hull is this? It is the one bought at a customs auction. Old seahalk boat with 500cid KE fuel injection motors
1987-88
sorry about the poor pics will post a better shot when I can get one

littlenige 04-19-2007 05:16 PM

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Marco - here´s some that I have - although I may be getting mixed up as to which is the 41.

littlenige 04-19-2007 05:17 PM

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Few more.

littlenige 04-19-2007 05:21 PM

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Divin

oops - posted wrong version of stern shot!

Black Tornado 04-19-2007 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mmwalters (Post 2099373)
What hull is this? It is the one bought at a customs auction. Old seahalk boat with 500cid KE fuel injection motors
1987-88
sorry about the poor pics will post a better shot when I can get one

For that little that I see I think is the 41' after the deck changed in 1989.

Black Tornado 04-19-2007 05:44 PM


Originally Posted by littlenige (Post 2099466)
Marco - here´s some that I have - although I may be getting mixed up as to which is the 41.

No Nigel,the #U-1 it's the 36' here pictured in 1985.Note the tunnel's extension. The others two is the 38'. The second pic posted was taken in 1985 and the thirdth probably in 1986.

Black Tornado 04-19-2007 05:49 PM


Originally Posted by littlenige (Post 2099469)
Few more.

These are all the 36'.The first one was probably in 1985 and the others two in 1986-87.

CougarM 04-20-2007 09:43 AM

The Seahawk Cats
 
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These where the boats

Black Tornado 04-20-2007 01:05 PM


Originally Posted by CougarM (Post 2100250)
These where the boats

Perfect CougarM,but my question was if anyone can say if that boat builded in 1986 or 1987 for the Team Seahawk(surely),had compete that season in USA in some races with Falcon(probably because the japanese Takamura was driving him old 38'former The Collection)and see pics.

mikiedreb 04-21-2007 02:07 PM

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Here are a couple of pics I snapped of the SEAHAWK boats at the Key West Worlds in 1986......both #20 & #25

littlenige 04-21-2007 02:09 PM

Great pics Mikie.

mikiedreb 04-21-2007 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by littlenige (Post 2101527)
Great pics Mikie.

Thanks...

I was going through a pile of old photos and found a number from the 1986 Key West Worlds. Some were of the old "tin" boats, others of interest to me........and a few I thought to be of historical value. Although they don't necessarily fit under the "41 Cougar" thread, I figured I'd post them anyway. It was at tragic Worlds, but a new era of safety was ushered in as a result.

Mike

mikiedreb 04-21-2007 02:30 PM

1986 Key West Worlds
 
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A couple more...

mikiedreb 04-21-2007 02:33 PM

1986 Key West Worlds
 
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a couple more....

mikiedreb 04-21-2007 02:40 PM

1986 Key West Worlds
 
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not quite done yet....

littlenige 04-21-2007 02:48 PM

Wow they are some great photographs. PLease keep posting. This is wonderful to see.

mikiedreb 04-21-2007 03:03 PM

1986 Key West Worlds
 
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Without a doubt, my all-time favorite "offshore" race boat....a work of art....everything changed that day.

littlenige 04-21-2007 03:10 PM

I never saw that boat in person - the artwork alone as you imply looks pretty impressive. And to think too that the pods within the cockpit must have inspired a feeling of safety..........

Black Tornado 04-21-2007 04:01 PM

My best Welcome on-board to you,Mikiedreb!
Also you don't have pics of the 41' but however you have posted some interesting photo.:cool:

mikiedreb 04-21-2007 04:39 PM

Black Tornado....I appreciate your hospitality !!!!! Thank-you. I have been lurking for quite a while, enjoying all the posts. I'm amazed at your recollection of details from the past. I have trouble remembering what I had for dinner last night!! I spent a number of years wrenching and racing offshore here in California in the mid 80's through the early 90's. Unfortunately, most of my time was spent building and fixing rather than taking photos. Please keep all the past history alive.

Mike

PS.....nothing beats the sounds of a pair of Lambo's at full clip. Ciao !!!!

Black Tornado 04-21-2007 05:11 PM

mikiedreb,you are one of the old guards on OSO.
Only now I put my eyes on your join date.
You was a driver? Can you speak about your experience(class,boat,results...)?
Marco

PS about the engines my hart it's for the old MerC V8,but for the tech the Lambo are thousands years ahead!:cool:

mikiedreb 04-21-2007 05:51 PM

Black Tornado...I spent my time as a navagator....another way of saying "mechanic". Most of our races were with the local west coast association POPBRA and MBRA, then run by Bob Nordskog. We started off grass-roots level racing with a converted 24' Specta Daycruiser "Portia"...big-block Mercruiser powered. Nothing like ocean racing in a little lake boat !!! High-points champs in 1986. Moved up to a 30' Larry Smith Scarab P50 "Warcry"....twin small-block Chevys w/Arneson drives. Next up was a 25' Warlock cat w/twin Merc O/B,s, also called "Warcry. We ran a number of OPT races along with the POPBRA circuit races.

The final ride was a 38' Active Cat which we completely rebuilt and had canopies installed. That project took a year and 1/2. It was the final "Warcry" boat. Twin Merc 750 EFI's with #5 speedmasters.

In all, a dozen or so wins, one high points shampionship, a lot of hard work and many great friends.

Mike

Black Tornado 04-21-2007 06:19 PM

Not a little thing.
I would like to see a photo of the Active canopied. I like the name "Warcry".

littlenige 04-22-2007 09:31 AM

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Not trying to steal anyone´s thunder here - Marco I think this is the boat Mike is referring to. Sure was a good looking boat. Mike - do you have some more pictures? Would love to see them!

mikiedreb 04-22-2007 10:37 AM

littlenige....that was our baby !!!!! WARCRY was beautiful. Four of us partnered in building and racing her. I'll post a few more pics later today.


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