Cary / Cigarette 32 production
 

I wounder if anybody nows about the production of the the cary / cigarette 32. How many Cary 32s were made? When did it turn into the cigarette 32? Between what years did Cigarette produce it? Was the deck changed on the first cigarette 32 from the cary which means that the boss o´nova vas the only 32 "made" by cigarette? And can anybody confirm that the 31 Bullet is actually a cut down 32 since they have the same width? Pics of 32s are very welcome.

Im sure they made a pleasure 32 and probably quite a few 32 center counsel's too.

Here is one for sale now! there was a beat looking red one for sale recently on boattraderonline as well.

http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/5/7/90149257.htm

Im not sure if the Original Don Aronow Cigarette is the same hull???

go to general boating and do thread search on "great moments in v- bottom history," by t2x, should answer your questions

it is, another boat out of that mold was a 32 Cary with a different deck on it. Beep Beep was one that ran in sports class

What I have found this far is this.

The original ”The Cigarette” was a 32' Cary, built at Hydroglas in Hialeah by Bob Vroman in 1969. The plug was built there (in secret) by Nick Chapman, who cut the chines on Brownies bandsaw at Nova Marine. The hull was designed by Harry Schoell, and was a modification of the very successful full-height 28' Magnum, also designed by Harry Schoell. Aronow had three, two in USA and one in europe. Vincenzo Balestrieri, purchased the european one for the 1970 season and named her Black Tornado and built a new one raced by Cosentino in two races only also named Black Tornado. In 1972 one of the american used "The Cigarette" was shipped to Australia since Don had sold the boat to Val Carr. That boat is now destroyed.

The one of Cosentino used was customized in 1971 and cut down to 31' with a lighter deck in wood. In Viareggio-Bastia-Viareggio 1971 race with rough seas the deck started to break down and Balestrieri sold it. The 31' was sent back to USA where it in the Sam Griffith Trophy in 1972 was used by the rookie De Angelis and then used by Al Sahlman to set a new speed record in 1974 at Marina Del Rey with the name "The Little Cigarette".

There was Peter Rothschild´s - Thunderballs and one named Cigarillo with 4 Mercury outboards and Willie Myers - White Label and Bill Wishnick´s Boss O'Nova II, that was not a Cary, but a real Cigarette 32' (it had the deck from the new 36'). During 1972-73 Willie MacDonald drove the former Boss O'Nova II as Wild Willie Boss O'Nova. Where these the only ones made and where are they today?

Aronow called the 32' boat a Cary because of his non-compete clauses with all the other boat companies that he had sold. He never honored any of them. Elton Cary didn't get a mold for a year. I designed the 31' Bulllet from scratch. I don't recall a 'pleasure version' of the 32', which quickly became a 36'.

How did the 32 become a 36? Was the orignal length just stretched or was the whole design blown up similar to what happened with the 49 Cary?

El stretcho grande

I have always wondered when they stretched a hull did they just add on to the back?

Here's another boat from the 32 cary.
http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/5/1/90021451.htm

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lets go back to the racingboats. Browne cinfirmed the bullet was dine from scratch by him.

The version with four outboards, The Cigarette and Wild Willie Boss O'Nova

...and Peter Rothscild´s Thunderballs. Are these the only 32s made because of the entrence od the 36?

sorry about the spelling, fat fingers :-)

Two 1979 32' Cary's

Was Cigarillo the boat Mercury used at Lake X?

So Brownie, the Cary 32' (that Elton Cary sold and marketed) is not the same hull design that Don Aronow called Cary 32' and it didn't come from Aronow.

I don't know why I thought this, but I thought the Elton Cary 32' became the Cobra 32'. then years later the Cobra 32' became the Powerplay 33' ?

The boat for sale on Boat Trader was for sale about ten years ago in Florida. Greg Gluck at American Offshore Marina in Dania had the boat. It had staggered 500HP/496CI stroker motors, and Speedmaster II or III drives. Three man bolster and a small cabin. The boat had the signature Jean Claude deck. I believe the boat could have been had for about $15k-$20k back then. It was pretty rough and needed lots of love. Sat on an original steel Target tri-axle trailer. I always liked the boat, it was just too much work at the time. I wonder what the ask is these days . . . I have the old photos somewhere, I have to find and scan them.

Harry

Aronow and Elton had the same boat. Simone made the original 'Beep Beep' in the same mold. Over the years, the 26' Cary (built from the lower gunwale of the 28SS Ciggy, got stretched and stretched, and became the 29' Cary (8' wide). Then it became everything else. It is now being built as a 30' by a neighbor of ours. One of my favorite boats................

thank you Brownie for the clearification.

I looked at the first one listed the other day. It is on a lot about a half hour from me. Harry, your description is right on. I got up and took a look and she is rough but still looks solid. she is missing one of the drives, don't know if they have it or not didn't ask. I didn't lift the hatches to see what the engines are like but my guess is nothing has changed since it came up to South Carolina from Florida. If it was a flat deck I might have asked more about it but I was never a big fan have of Jean Claude deck. The ribbing on the front of the deck reminds me of a tin roof.

If anyone is remotely interested I could go take some better pictures.

You beat me to it. I looked at it with Greg October 1999 when I was down for the Ft Lauderdale boat show. It looks identical today as it did back then. I think it had 3's on it, and the cabin needed to be fixed up if you planned to spend any time down there. The 3 man set up is very, very tight. If I remember right, a Saudi 20-something year old owned it at the time. Pic from when I looked at it. Cool boat, but a big project for sure.

Yeah a project for sure. If it didn't have that deck I might have asked some more questions. With Staggered engines and what looks like ballast tank drains that have been filled, I wonder what its history was? Wonder if it was ever raced?

The Wild Willie Boss O'Nova wasn't a Cary but one of the first boats built by Cigarette in 1971.
It was the same mold of the Cary 32' with a modified deck.

Yeah, like i wrote in post #5 :-). Bill Wishnick´s Boss O'Nova II, was not a Cary, but a real Cigarette 32' (it had the deck from the new Cigarette 36'). During 1972-73 Willie MacDonald drove the former Boss O'Nova II as Wild Willie Boss O'Nova.

Billie McDonald also had a grey/silver open class Cigarette called "Impossible Dream".

Impossible Dream was a Gara 40',If the memory doesn't deceive me.

Sorry steeb,but I had not pushed to read up to the post #5. :(

Billy also had a 35` cig. Greyish blue color. Bud Larrow rigged it for him when they were together. They had a shop over of NE 17th ave. in N. Miami, have no idea where that boat ended up. Bud would probably know. 7XCHAMP

Does anybody know if there is any 32s left in original condition? Or are they all destroyed or rebuilt?

Many Thanks Richie! You and BROWNIE confirm a my suspect that there was a 35' Impossible Dream but I had haven't confirm before you.
Another hunt to an image of a unknown race boat start....
Marco

Bud Larrow
 

Where is Bud nowadays? Also, where did Bobby Moore retire to? N. Carolina?

Estarmer, I'd be interested if the price were right. I always like the boat . . . if you could get some detailed pics of it that show present condition and email them to me, I'd appreciate it.

Damdonzi, I'm sorry I didn't buy the boat then . . . I remember that pic from the inside of American - it was splashed in the boat trader for months. The boat was also on Yacht World for ages, listed with a broker in 1000 Islands, NY. I remember the cabin was filty, and had been wallpapered at one point. I remember it peeling off and mold behind it :(

At any rate, someone should save her . . . and buy my 35' Mistress so I can play with something else!

Thanks,

Harry

We had a 32 Cigarette race boat (Red Baron) in the shop way back then, was undergoing a race to pleasure conversion. BTW You can always tell a true Cigarette 36 looking at the chine @ the stem knee it is sucked in on the port side.

Any pics of Red Baron?

Red Baron,former Wild Willie-Boss O'Nova,former Boss O'Nova II was the World Champion in 1971 with B.Wishnick.
That was a prototype,as only sample of 32'built from the Cigarette for the competitions.
Any pictures like Red Baron or converted?

Cig35Mistress, I'll swing by there this weekend and get some pics for your and I'll ask what they want for it. I should be able to send you something Saturday. Darn Daylight savings time, its dark now by the time I head home.

Marco, do you know where this picture is taken?

England 1970. Day before the Cowes-Torquay-Cowes.
Vincenzo Balestrieri,Jack Stuteville and Tim Brand Crombie as navigator. Cary 32',Black Tornado (I).
From Beken of Cowes archives.

I just may know someone who has some come to think of it.

In those days who knew?