Kaama swap
 

I have decided that Kaama's are driving me nuts. I will be selling them both and swaping to TRS drives. What would be a reasonable price for 1 complete with boot and one that was run dry of oil. I will sell with props. Is anyone interested before I go to E-BAY Call me at 727 364 8531 Don

why would you sell those? apparently bullet proof!

I thought the kaama internals were over the counter gear parts readily available? Thought only the boots were an issue? You going to sell the twin disc trannies too?

i would think that repairing the kaama would be easier than re rigging to convert over to trs. the kaamas were spanking the trs and # 3 back in the day. don give me a call Bruce 5197912790 before you give up.

It would definetly be easier to rebuild the Kaamas, although I had them for six years, and only changed a boot when I first bought them. If the boots ok, fix the drives. If you look very closely, you can see in the transom where the Trs drives were not mounted at the same height as the Kaama. I can't remember now, but I want to say they were mounted higher. You can tell by carefully examining the gel on the outside of the transom. You can see where Formula filled the original holes, and cut for the Kaama exhaust. Formula did an excellent job of filling these, and you really have to look closely. I can only assume, they came of the factory floor, with holes cut for Trs.

Real Kaama Formula
 

There is no fill in in the gelcoat. This hull was made with the holes for Kaamas. Formula said this is 1 of 7 boats made in 1985 with Kaamas. All the rest had other drives but no surface drives. I am not impressed with trying to repair these if it is such a hassel to get the boot. I will be selling the drives and twin disc's if anyone wants them call me at 727-364-8531 and we can discuss price for all of it with props.

You can still get the boots but i belive they are in the $500 dollar range... each.

Where? I searched for them for five years to no avail.

I bet it's there. It's very hard to see, and you can't see it at all from the inside.

You don't know the meaning of hassel, until you start that swap. Nothing will fit.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...96774749998736

I've got a friend with the same boat as you. 302 w/Kamma's

About 10 years ago he bought two complete Kamma drives to keep as spares. He's never needed them and is going through a divorce. He just might want to get rid of them at this point.

Kurt

Exactly what problems are you running into? It's pretty straghtforward. I think I have a disc of the internal workings of a Kaama here somewhere. I had it on my hard drive, but it burned up last year.

don, have 1 used boot as I stated before, it's ok, but not great cond. 781-548-9300 maybe it will help u ! ps: like "cuda" said what problems have u-en-countered ? call if I can help ! :)

I know there was a guy who bought a KAAMA equipped 402 Formula and rigged it with TRS setup. I know it can be done, but I would rather sell that KAAMA 302 and just buy one with trs already.

I doubt you will find someone willing to pay good money for the kaama setups. I was told on the bigger hulls, like the 402, that arnesons would be better since they are longer. My 402 Formula has trs, but if it had kaama's I wouldnt be thinking about going to konrads.

Did wellcraft ever make a 38 flatdeck with KAAMA drives?

There is still one guy who has them.We got them for a 302 Formula. Im drawing a blank on the name. Ill get back to ya.

I've never seen one. I did see a 38 Scarab with triple Blackhawks. :eek:

I think Archer Marine in CA.

That sounds familier

there is one I know of. It was in storage(mothballed) in fox lake ill. It ran ok but liked to break the tie-bar and mess up the props. 496 motoors with the kamma headers side by side. Very heavt boat.

That picture is from the Fort, still gives me goose bumps. They can't track me down from this post, can they?

That trailer hooked to the forklift hauled a cougar cat, just drawin a blank right now. Any help out there?

Nope.

Am I the only one that can't even remember what I had for lunch today? Fried peanut butter and banana sandwich?

I think the cougar had surface drives, black and green paint. Somebody help me remember, Brownie,? anybody that spent too much time on that street? Thank you, Thank you very much.

here's a pic from the fort, hawk

Kurt I was waiting for your call. Does your buddy still have the Kaamas and what price Call me

I will only say the drive was run with no oil and can not get the housing apart at this point. What can I do now? I could use that diagram of the drive if anyone has it. I am going nuts trying to get this boat going. I would buy a boot if I could find one. Archer has nothing to help me with. I have called a few times only to get no responce. Cuda if you have a boot how can I get in touch with you. You can call me at 727-364-8531

Don, I spoke with my bud with the spare drives. He's not looking to sell them just in case he needs them someday.

Sorry, Kurt

I don't have one. I had two new one's when I bought the boat, but it had one leaking, so I swapped it out. Another Oso member needed one in a hurry, so I sold him my extra boot, figuring I could get a knew one from Archer.:(

Wow. Thats where we used to get them. Thats sucks.

It took two tries on ebay but this running 1984 38' Scarab from Michigan just sold for $12600.00. Looks like the word about KAAMA drives is speading. I had a set on a Active cat 12 years ago, parts were getting hard to find then.

Don, Ice Said He Has A Boot Why Dont You Get A Hold Of Him And Buy It. I Have The Prints Of The Kaamas, I Thought I Faxed Them To You But Maybe It Was Ice. Push Comes To Shove Take The Other One Apart And See Exactly What Is In There. They Are So Simple,you Will Be Suprized. Not Only That, There Could Be Other Things On The Edge In They Good Drive That Your Not Happy With. I Have Had Mine Apart Many Times, If Need Any Help I Would Be Glad To Help In Any Way. Bruce Cell 519791 2790... Good Luck

Bruce did not get a diagram from you, would luv-1-sent to FAX# 978-664-0102 thanks. Hope you had a good time while u-where out of town ! Will call or u-can call me cell# 781-548-9300 "don" call too, on the boot if u-wish ! J---:)--

-----H20,,,Is that the Kaama driven deep-vee that was up in evil Eds yard in St.Clair???. I havent been over there in a bit where that boat was sitting but it was there last summer and the owner seemed to have given up on it..........Bill S

DON - The boot i talked to you about i need. I just looked at my boat this weekend and i have a torn one! I have yet to email Brian on the drives but i will.

Don, call me: Jay--I have a used boot in ok cond. also bruce or myself can tell you how to split the case if you need a drive shaft I think I can find 1-4-u my # is in the above posts !

Emailed Brian and he sold the drives. Sorry man

Here are pictures of me changing a boot.

4-6

6-9

The hardest part is to stretch the new boot over the drive. We tried soaking it in hot water, but found rolling it up, and putting it on like a condom worked the best.

Also, rotate the drive until the cap you want to remove it at the top. I had more pictures of the change, but I must have lost them when I had a computer crash last year. I'm sure they are still posted here on Oso somewhere.